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firstly I want to say I am one of his biggest fans and Have been to his fights but I am very disapointed in which his career is going as late. He has only boxed once since beating Martinez in February and now that man he knocked out is world champion.
I just read on BS that Kiko want Quigg next so that is obviously going to headline the matchroom card in April in the MEN that eddie has talked about in his Q and A with Kugan. I think Carl would of been better off staying with Matchroom as they seem to hold the Ace cards now. Barry talks about other options for Carl but his career has gone backwards in terms of ranking since leaving matchroom. Carl is a star in Belfast and is probably the third most popular boxer in the UK behind Haye and Froch as proved by his attendance figures. Barry now has to produce the goods for a fighter that has the potential to gain a following like the great Ricky Hatton.

http://www.BS.com/kiko-martine ... ait--73225

You thought his manadatory for the European would be easy - he gave his belt up.

Here we go

Did he not give up his belt to go after world belts which has not worked out

palooka wrote:Here we go

Happy New Year

On the subject of Carl Frampton .. I have changed my mind on him, I actually think he beats Quigg.

Now there is a fight ... problem is boxing politics at this stage will never let it happen.

Kiko is wanting to fight Quigg as he feels he has a chance. He loses the belt to Frampton so the Quigg fight makes sense. As for Frampton being better staying with Matchroom?? I guarantee Frampton holds a World title for longer than Quigg and if the politics can be sorted beats him too.

daviddee wrote:Kiko is wanting to fight Quigg as he feels he has a chance. He loses the belt to Frampton so the Quigg fight makes sense. As for Frampton being better staying with Matchroom?? I guarantee Frampton holds a World title for longer than Quigg and if the politics can be sorted beats him too.

I could see why Martinez would fancy his chances more against Quigg than he would Frampton. Quigg has been put on his backside by lesser men than Martinez. Im not convinced he boxes aswell on the backfoot as Frampton or has the mobility either that Carl possesses. I still think he's a very good super bantamweight though and one of the best out there.

Spud wrote:On the subject of Carl Frampton .. I have changed my mind on him, I actually think he beats Quigg.

Now there is a fight ... problem is boxing politics at this stage will never let it happen.

Im still sat on the fence, heart says quigg, head says Frampton, but my soul says kid galahad!!

I want to see what happens when Frampton gets heavily tagged!

rhino222 wrote:

Spud wrote:On the subject of Carl Frampton .. I have changed my mind on him, I actually think he beats Quigg.

Now there is a fight ... problem is boxing politics at this stage will never let it happen.

Im still sat on the fence, heart says quigg, head says Frampton, but my soul says kid galahad!!

I want to see what happens when Frampton gets heavily tagged!

He did by Martinez!

Frampton takes a good shot,

I am very bias towards frampton but I honestly think he beats quigg easy

I am just a small bit disapointed with his management at present

This sort of thing was obvious the minute he left Eddie.

rhino222 wrote:

Spud wrote:On the subject of Carl Frampton .. I have changed my mind on him, I actually think he beats Quigg.

Now there is a fight ... problem is boxing politics at this stage will never let it happen.

Im still sat on the fence, heart says quigg, head says Frampton, but my soul says kid galahad!!

I want to see what happens when Frampton gets heavily tagged!

Good shout on Kid Galahad ... he is quietly slipping under the radar ...

Spud wrote:

rhino222 wrote:

Spud wrote:On the subject of Carl Frampton .. I have changed my mind on him, I actually think he beats Quigg.

Now there is a fight ... problem is boxing politics at this stage will never let it happen.

Im still sat on the fence, heart says quigg, head says Frampton, but my soul says kid galahad!!

I want to see what happens when Frampton gets heavily tagged!

Good shout on Kid Galahad ... he is quietly slipping under the radar ...

I have a feeling he is going to have about as much success calling these two out as Witter did with Hatton.

Mickey ... the problem with Galahad will be the boxing politics .... He is with Hennessy ...

Fast Car & Pig Eyes will not want to do a deal.

Kid Galahad's Mystic Meg impression in October:

http://www.BS.com/kid-galahad- ... -me--70842

Spud wrote:Mickey ... the problem with Galahad will be the boxing politics .... He is with Hennessy ...

Fast Car & Pig Eyes will not want to do a deal.

So was Junior!

mullenman wrote:firstly I want to say I am one of his biggest fans and Have been to his fights but I am very disapointed in which his career is going as late. He has only boxed once since beating Martinez in February and now that man he knocked out is world champion.
I just read on BS that Kiko want Quigg next so that is obviously going to headline the matchroom card in April in the MEN that eddie has talked about in his Q and A with Kugan. I think Carl would of been better off staying with Matchroom as they seem to hold the Ace cards now. Barry talks about other options for Carl but his career has gone backwards in terms of ranking since leaving matchroom. Carl is a star in Belfast and is probably the third most popular boxer in the UK behind Haye and Froch as proved by his attendance figures. Barry now has to produce the goods for a fighter that has the potential to gain a following like the great Ricky Hatton.

http://www.BS.com/kiko-martine ... ait--73225

He's actually improved his rankings and increased his ticket sales for his last fight.

Fair enough if Kiko's team want to follow Quigg - there are multiple reasons for that.

I don't think Carl should be in a rush to fight for a world title. Get a final eliminator and a world title fight by the end of the year and all is good.

slapbangwhallop wrote:

mullenman wrote:firstly I want to say I am one of his biggest fans and Have been to his fights but I am very disapointed in which his career is going as late. He has only boxed once since beating Martinez in February and now that man he knocked out is world champion.
I just read on BS that Kiko want Quigg next so that is obviously going to headline the matchroom card in April in the MEN that eddie has talked about in his Q and A with Kugan. I think Carl would of been better off staying with Matchroom as they seem to hold the Ace cards now. Barry talks about other options for Carl but his career has gone backwards in terms of ranking since leaving matchroom. Carl is a star in Belfast and is probably the third most popular boxer in the UK behind Haye and Froch as proved by his attendance figures. Barry now has to produce the goods for a fighter that has the potential to gain a following like the great Ricky Hatton.

http://www.BS.com/kiko-martine ... ait--73225

He's actually improved his rankings and increased his ticket sales for his last fight.

Fair enough if Kiko's team want to follow Quigg - there are multiple reasons for that.

I don't think Carl should be in a rush to fight for a world title. Get a final eliminator and a world title fight by the end of the year and all is good.

If he cant get Martinez next, i wouldnt be surprised if he fights Santa Cruz in his next fight. Frampton has already said he'd like that fight and Santa Cruz wants it aswell apparantly.

I would to be honest. He's only had 17 fights and is banging out the Odyessy Arena. Can't see LSC coming over and it's a massive risk to go there. Final eliminator with WBC or IBF in Belfast next me thinks.

slapbangwhallop wrote:

mullenman wrote:firstly I want to say I am one of his biggest fans and Have been to his fights but I am very disapointed in which his career is going as late. He has only boxed once since beating Martinez in February and now that man he knocked out is world champion.
I just read on BS that Kiko want Quigg next so that is obviously going to headline the matchroom card in April in the MEN that eddie has talked about in his Q and A with Kugan. I think Carl would of been better off staying with Matchroom as they seem to hold the Ace cards now. Barry talks about other options for Carl but his career has gone backwards in terms of ranking since leaving matchroom. Carl is a star in Belfast and is probably the third most popular boxer in the UK behind Haye and Froch as proved by his attendance figures. Barry now has to produce the goods for a fighter that has the potential to gain a following like the great Ricky Hatton.

http://www.BS.com/kiko-martine ... ait--73225

He's actually improved his rankings and increased his ticket sales for his last fight.

Fair enough if Kiko's team want to follow Quigg - there are multiple reasons for that.

I don't think Carl should be in a rush to fight for a world title. Get a final eliminator and a world title fight by the end of the year and all is good.

Think he probably would have increased his ticket sales under Hearn as well in fairness. Did seem a bit of a slow year for him last year (possibly because I don't have allegedly and obviously he wasn't being hyped by Sky?). Hopefully he really gets going from the off this year.

Really enjoyed going over the Belfast to see him v Martinez. Would definitely be up for going again if he gets another big fight.,

I like Frampton and I also think he beats Quigg from what I've seen.

Spud wrote:Mickey ... the problem with Galahad will be the boxing politics .... He is with Hennessy ...

Fast Car & Pig Eyes will not want to do a deal.

You never hold back spud considering you work in the industry Spud.

TopGun wrote:

Spud wrote:Mickey ... the problem with Galahad will be the boxing politics .... He is with Hennessy ...

Fast Car & Pig Eyes will not want to do a deal.

You never hold back spud considering you work in the industry Spud.

I think he is already on Mick and Fwanks blacklist so has nothing to lose.