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Optimistic?

Posted: 11 Jan 2014, 10:15
by lefty

Re: Optimistic?

Posted: 11 Jan 2014, 10:51
by JimJim2009
Delboy would want purse parity, given him taking the short end of the stick for the Haye fight. Fury's had a glimpse at what big, big purses look like, even if it never materialised, so I can see this being an expensive fight to put together. Would love to see it happen, I would go for Fury on points again. The hype for this would be entertaining - crack on Fwank, get it made :TU:

Re: Optimistic?

Posted: 11 Jan 2014, 14:50
by Andrew
Which stadium is it going to be ?? I just don't think they are big enough sellers. Fury isn't even that popular in Manchester and never fought there he always complained in the MEN how he wanted a fanbase like David Price had in Liverpool.

Frank has used Upton Park twice but those shows only sold well because Haye and Mitchell were fighting. This could possibly do the O2 but would need big fights on the undercard aswell.

Re: Optimistic?

Posted: 11 Jan 2014, 15:47
by JimJim2009
As I recall, the Haye/Chisora show sold so many tickets in the first 48 hours that a sell out was expected, yet on the night the crowd seemed to be more or less equal to the initial ticket sales.

Not sure Fury / Chisora 2 would "fill" a stadium, but in a way that's the promoter's job and I hope he can pull it off.

Re: Optimistic?

Posted: 11 Jan 2014, 17:53
by expe
It's a big heavyweight fight between two of the most recognisable fighters in the country, neither of which is short of controversy and will talk shite all day long. Got to remember that Buglioni and Kean will do the customary 2,000 tickets between them and Fwank's not short of other London ticket sellers to add a few extra sales. As for the venue, I see 4 options, Selhurst Park, White Hart Lane, Loftus Road and Upton Park. Wouldn't mind Loftus Road to be honest, 18,500 seats plus another 8,000 or so on the pitch takes it up to 26,500, which should be about right for this fight and the stands are close to the pitch, so it's compact and the atmosphere would be good.

Re: Optimistic?

Posted: 11 Jan 2014, 18:53
by JC
expe wrote:It's a big heavyweight fight between two of the most recognisable fighters in the country, neither of which is short of controversy and will talk shite all day long. Got to remember that Buglioni and Kean will do the customary 2,000 tickets between them and Fwank's not short of other London ticket sellers to add a few extra sales. As for the venue, I see 4 options, Selhurst Park, White Hart Lane, Loftus Road and Upton Park. Wouldn't mind Loftus Road to be honest, 18,500 seats plus another 8,000 or so on the pitch takes it up to 26,500, which should be about right for this fight and the stands are close to the pitch, so it's compact and the atmosphere would be good.
I'm no promoter (obviously) but I just don't see Fury/Chisora being that big of a fight, especially since they've already fought once. It lacks the intrigue of Fury/Price (pre Thompson), Quigg/Frampton or even Khan/Brook all of which I could imagine being stadium fights.

Re: Optimistic?

Posted: 11 Jan 2014, 21:42
by expe
J-C wrote:
expe wrote:It's a big heavyweight fight between two of the most recognisable fighters in the country, neither of which is short of controversy and will talk shite all day long. Got to remember that Buglioni and Kean will do the customary 2,000 tickets between them and Fwank's not short of other London ticket sellers to add a few extra sales. As for the venue, I see 4 options, Selhurst Park, White Hart Lane, Loftus Road and Upton Park. Wouldn't mind Loftus Road to be honest, 18,500 seats plus another 8,000 or so on the pitch takes it up to 26,500, which should be about right for this fight and the stands are close to the pitch, so it's compact and the atmosphere would be good.
I'm no promoter (obviously) but I just don't see Fury/Chisora being that big of a fight, especially since they've already fought once. It lacks the intrigue of Fury/Price (pre Thompson), Quigg/Frampton or even Khan/Brook all of which I could imagine being stadium fights.
It's bigger than all of those for me, Quigg, Frampton and Brook are nobodies to the general public and a Price fight wasn't at the same sort of level as this will be. They fought before, but neither was in shape and both have come on in leaps and bounds since then. Chisora's well known thanks to his antics with the Klitschko's and Haye that led to a domestic superfight, while Fury has spent his career on terrestrial TV and was lined up to fight Haye. Both have big mouths and will talk the fight up for months beforehand, plus they're heavyweights and everyone loves a heavyweight fight because they bring the power that's sometimes lacking in other divisions.

Re: Optimistic?

Posted: 12 Jan 2014, 15:02
by The_Don1
expe wrote:
J-C wrote:
expe wrote:It's a big heavyweight fight between two of the most recognisable fighters in the country, neither of which is short of controversy and will talk shite all day long. Got to remember that Buglioni and Kean will do the customary 2,000 tickets between them and Fwank's not short of other London ticket sellers to add a few extra sales. As for the venue, I see 4 options, Selhurst Park, White Hart Lane, Loftus Road and Upton Park. Wouldn't mind Loftus Road to be honest, 18,500 seats plus another 8,000 or so on the pitch takes it up to 26,500, which should be about right for this fight and the stands are close to the pitch, so it's compact and the atmosphere would be good.
I'm no promoter (obviously) but I just don't see Fury/Chisora being that big of a fight, especially since they've already fought once. It lacks the intrigue of Fury/Price (pre Thompson), Quigg/Frampton or even Khan/Brook all of which I could imagine being stadium fights.
It's bigger than all of those for me, Quigg, Frampton and Brook are nobodies to the general public and a Price fight wasn't at the same sort of level as this will be. They fought before, but neither was in shape and both have come on in leaps and bounds since then. Chisora's well known thanks to his antics with the Klitschko's and Haye that led to a domestic superfight, while Fury has spent his career on terrestrial TV and was lined up to fight Haye. Both have big mouths and will talk the fight up for months beforehand, plus they're heavyweights and everyone loves a heavyweight fight because they bring the power that's sometimes lacking in other divisions.
Exactly the public love a Heavyweight fight, this would sell big as you've described there's too many people on the forum who automatically dismiss anything W@rren is involved with, summer stadium fight packed out guaranteed.

Re: Optimistic?

Posted: 12 Jan 2014, 15:19
by bripez
expe wrote:It's a big heavyweight fight between two of the most recognisable fighters in the country, neither of which is short of controversy and will talk shite all day long. Got to remember that Buglioni and Kean will do the customary 2,000 tickets between them and Fwank's not short of other London ticket sellers to add a few extra sales. As for the venue, I see 4 options, Selhurst Park, White Hart Lane, Loftus Road and Upton Park. Wouldn't mind Loftus Road to be honest, 18,500 seats plus another 8,000 or so on the pitch takes it up to 26,500, which should be about right for this fight and the stands are close to the pitch, so it's compact and the atmosphere would be good.

My first thoughts were that it wouldn't work, but there are some good points in the above post.

Both Fury and Chisora would talk all day which would help to sell the fight to the general public.

Haye talks as if he has been selling out stadiums all his life but it was only a few years ago that he was European champion and fighting in leisure centres in front small crowds.

Re: Optimistic?

Posted: 12 Jan 2014, 16:04
by jessi
Loftus road does seem a good venue, but 26,500 is not much more than an o2 / men arena, is it really worth it ? All the stadium fights I've been to lack atmosphere.
No matter where it is, it's a massive fight with a potential wladimir fight for the winner.

Re: Optimistic?

Posted: 13 Jan 2014, 11:02
by DavidPayne
Football Ground?

Gigg Lane is a football ground.

Re: Optimistic?

Posted: 13 Jan 2014, 11:24
by chad
The_Don1 wrote:
Exactly the public love a Heavyweight fight, this would sell big as you've described there's too many people on the forum who automatically dismiss anything W@rren is involved with, summer stadium fight packed out guaranteed.
Whilst hard core boxing fans would see through it, I'm pretty sure Fr&nk allegedly could arrange for the vacant WBA World heavyweight title to be on the line. 2 British heavyweights fighting outdoors for a version of the world title would capture the general public's imagination. If the WBA regular belt is good enough for Braehmer, Golovkin, Maidana, Abril and Quigg it's good enough for Fury and Chisora. Would be a good way to maneuver the winner into a fight against whoever claims the vacant WBC title.

Re: Optimistic?

Posted: 13 Jan 2014, 15:13
by Yes We Can
George Groves in World title belt fight on the undercard maybe?

with GG, Buglioni & kean im sue this coud do great numbers given the fighters respective stature/levels

Re: Optimistic?

Posted: 13 Jan 2014, 22:26
by brian13
Needs a good undercard, which I hope it would get. BJS, DeGale would help.

I really hope the Chisora / Fury rematch comes off because Chisora came off the whole saga about Wlad and fight being called off twice late notice. If he shows up in great shape, this is going to be a cracker.

Re: Optimistic?

Posted: 14 Jan 2014, 04:24
by stevieb_8006
I cant fathom why boxing fans seem to think its some kind of underground sport and that joe public wont have heard of any boxer that's not Muhammad ali. For a sport so unwatched, it sells a shit load of tickets.