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Klompton wrote that Stamford Harris stood 6'5" according to boxrec, but nobody answer his message and correct his height from record queries and updates section. I watched the Jerry Quarry vs. Stamford Harris fight on youtube and Klompton is correct. Stamford Harris stood about 5'9" and here's the source to prove that he was shorter than Quarry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1cYy0beLDo

Harris was also described as being a Joe Frazier look alike in the book "Heavyweight Boxing in the 70s" by Joe Ryan and then says his physical resemblance to Frazier was the only thing Harris had in common with Frazier

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=xY4I ... er&f=false


Also in another snippet from Sam Pollak, a sports editor talking about Angelo Dundee, mentioned a time he was meant to spar with Ali but it changed to Stamtord Harris.

"Being young and stupid, I had no objections, and I was scheduled to spar one round with Ali. However, he was called out of town for some reason, and Angelo substituted another of his boxers, a guy named Stamford Harris, billed as the heavyweight champion of the West Indies. At least I got to wear a pair of Ali's boxing shoes, they being the only size 13s Angelo could find. With several of the boxers I had covered curious enough to watch at the gym, I stood in my corner of the ring. In the other corner was Mr. Harris, who was not a tall man, but _ I was quick to notice _ had arms like legs. Angelo was in his face, shouting at him over and over. "Don't hurt him! Don't hurt him! Don't hurt him."

http://www.thedailystar.com/sampollak/x ... rner/print

Il Duce wrote:Good Digging 'Scorpio',

Stamford 'Stanford' Harris > also known as 'Kid' and The Big Bamboo Man'.

According to 'Jamaica Joe',

Stamford Harris started boxing in Kingston, Jamaica back in 1953, as a 16 year-old muscular 200 lb.
brawler.

In January 1973, a 35 year-old - Stamford Harris {5' 9 1/2" and 233 lbs.} was instrumental in helping
Challenger - George Foreman prepare for 'Smokin' Joe Frazer.

Yep he definitely taught you something there Il Duce

Il Duce wrote:Oddity

George Foreman used 'The Big Bamboo' Stamford Harris, a 6' 5" - 240 lb. Jamaican Heavyweight as
a sparring partner while prepping for 'Smokin Joe'.

Whatever the reason, it worked.............

Il Duce wrote:Miss Controversial

The 6' 5" listing was from Mark Kram of Sports Illustrated......

All corrections are welcomed........Even from a 'Grade C' Troll like yourself.......

You welcome. It wasn't intended to be taken as an insult but if thats how you want to take it then fair enough. So what book did you get 5'9.5" from?

Controversial wrote:

Il Duce wrote:Miss Controversial

The 6' 5" listing was from Mark Kram of Sports Illustrated......

All corrections are welcomed........Even from a 'Grade C' Troll like yourself.......

You welcome. It wasn't intended to be taken as an insult but if thats how you want to take it then fair enough. So what book did you get 5'9.5" from?

Big Jim's Big Book of Bullsh1t?

Giancarlo, you finally cranked a homer. As much as I like Duce, I'm still laughing five minutes after I read your post.

Oh god, here comes more bullshit from IlDouche. Suddenly hes on here acting like this isnt new information to him when:


Monday Dec 9, 2013 4:29 pm:

http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f ... s#p3824636

September 2, 1970

Jerry Quarry was prepping at Gilman Hot Springs, working out with Light Heavyweights
Eddie 'Bossman' Jones and his brother Mike.

Jerry had a 'promotional tune-up bout' on September 8, 1970 in Miami Beach, against
Jamaican punching bag - Stamford 'Big Bamboo' Harris, a 6' 5" 233 lb. record-padder.

The original bout was set for October 10, 1970 - but was pushed back to October 26th.

'The Bellflower Belter' was working on speed, to deal with Muhammad Ali's quickness.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q= ... yrfhvk7raQ

and

Wed Dec 18, 2013 6:48pm

http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f ... s#p3834490

'Jerry Quarry To Take On The Big Bamboo Man'

September 1970

'Irish' Jerry Quarry continues on his 1970 charge. Considered finished after a disastrous 1969,
the 25 year-old 'Bellflower Belter' from California has now won '3-Straight' since returning in
March 1970.

Only less than a year ago, Jerry was written off by Madison Square Garden, and labeled 'worn-out
and washed-up'. Others wrote that he was stale and tired, and lacked desire. Even words of unwilling
to train properly or stay focused in the Ring, coupled with a lack of ability. An impressive and shocking
6th-Round TKO over unbeaten 'KO Sensation' Mac Foster in June, has put Jerry right back at the Top of
the Challengers list of the Heavyweight Division.

Tale of the Tape

Stamford Harris ~ {Kingston, Jamaica}
'Kid' / 'The Big Bamboo Man'
Age......... 33 years, 4 months
Height..... 6' 5"
Reach...... 79"
Weight..... 233 lbs.
Record..... 43-20-2 {16 KO's}


Once again it doesnt take much to show what "cut and paste" Douche is made of... For a guy who claims to have been a ring official while Harris was active youd think hed be able to tell the difference between 8 inches in height. But, we all know Il Douche is really a twelve year old with a stack of old magazines and access to online newspaper archives. How many times has he described fights he didnt realize there was footage to only to get called out when his descriptions wildly deviate from the actual events?

Just wanted to point that out. Now I'll go back to posting on forums that dont allow rampant trolling.

Thats about as original as the 30 yr old newspaper article u regurgitate as eye witness material.

klompton wrote:
Once again it doesnt take much to show what "cut and paste" Douche is made of... For a guy who claims to have been a ring official while Harris was active youd think hed be able to tell the difference between 8 inches in height. But, we all know Il Douche is really a twelve year old with a stack of old magazines and access to online newspaper archives. How many times has he described fights he didnt realize there was footage to only to get called out when his descriptions wildly deviate from the actual events?

He's just a bell-end, Klompton; put him on ignore like almost everyone else has.

More amusing was the plank who was on here last week lauding him for his "excellent research".

I suspected the guy was taking the piss at first but, no, he actually thought The Duchess was posting factual information rather than shite he'd pulled out his arse.

This is how your page should look Klompton.

Harris has a strong facial resemblance to Usain Bolt.
He was the Everett 'Big Foot' Martin of his era...

So what does it take for his height to be edited then, still shown as 6'5"

Thanks Il Duce, I appreciate it.

Il Duce wrote:

scorpio83 wrote:Thanks Il Duce, I appreciate it.

Excellent Work 'Scorpio'.........

Box/Rec also still has him listed as Stamford........It is 'Stanford'

LOL. No its not. His name was Stamford.

So a poster has never mispelled anyones name before? Want me to post examples of fighters more famous that Harris whose names have been mispelled on posters?

Youve been calling him Stamford for months now and suddenly when you find these posters you change your tune. Why dont you just admit you dont know as much about these fighters as you let on?

There's an old newspaper article that calls Harris's nickname "inappropriate" so presumably Big Bamboo was referring to something else!!

I think it's fair to say that his name is either spelt Stanford or Stamford, examples can be given for both. Unless someone has his birth certificate we are all only guessing, for all we know maybe he used his middle name. It matters not, it's only one letter and lots fighters use aliases or other spellings. The height is the big error.

Il Duce wrote:

Controversial wrote:I think it's fair to say that his name is either spelt Stanford or Stamford, examples can be given for both. Unless someone has his birth certificate we are all only guessing, for all we know maybe he used his middle name. It matters not, it's only one letter and lots fighters use aliases or other spellings. The height is the big error.

Who posted his Height at 6' 5" on Box/Rec.............. ???

Haven't a clue, maybe his source was Mark Kram of Sports Illustrated?

His real name Stamford Antonarias according to boxrec...sounds latin ...

Il Duce wrote:

evrenb wrote:His real name Stamford Antonarias according to boxrec...sounds latin ...

That what was George Plimpton wrote 'incorrectly' in January 1973.

How do you know that? The article by George Plimpton is a conversation with the man himself so presumably Harris told him that was his real name.

"Over in the Skyline Hotel is a fighter who has been in a bout with George Foreman. He is a Jamaican heavyweight who fights out of Miami and is known as the Big Bamboo, a sobriquet invented by the group of stockbrokers from Toronto who discovered him. His real name is Stamford Antonarias, and everyone calls him Harris, or Two-O-Two, which is his weight. He is very popular among the cab drivers who stand in front of the hotels because he is a local fighter and has been in there with George, and what was that like? He has a round face, the size of a small pumpkin, with a few of his front teeth missing, and he has obviously suffered in the boxing wars, though he remains cheerful and honest about his record.

"I fought George Chuvalo in a main event up in Alberta and got stopped in two. I fought Jerry Quarry and got cut in six. I went against George Foreman and got knocked out in the first."

"It was the second," a bystander said.

"Oh yeah, it was the second," the Big Bamboo said gratefully. "To be in there with George Foreman and get away from his shots is very difficult. His hands are very fast. He punches...." He paused. "Oh, mon," he said in his natural lilt, which sounds almost Scottish. "To box with George you must get low and very close. He's dangerous at far range. If I ever fight him again, I'd fight him much closer." He looked very dubious about the possibility. "Yeah," he suddenly said brightly. "It was the second round. Sure, mon, it was." The Big Bamboo really seemed quite pleased with himself."

Il Duce wrote:Controversial

So what you are saying,,,,,

Is that there is no possible way that George Plimpton may have had 'one letter' incorrect.

Just based on one article in January 1973.

And that Chris Dundee, who promoted 'Stanford Harris' for 3-years got his name completely wrong.

Case Closed.........

If you read your own reply you will see you replied to a message saying his real name was Stamford Antonarias. You said that was incorrect, which presumably meant his entire name including Antonarias was incorrect as you didn't specify otherwise. That's what I was referring to.

It makes no difference to me if his name was Stanford or Stamford. Your reply gave the impression you knew different. However you are going by a poster created by a printing company as concrete proof. The journalist may have got it wrong, the poster might be wrong but out of the two I would tend to lean towards the journalist as being more accurate as he spoke to the fighter direct. A printing company is more likely to make a spelling mistake don't you think. The poster also says his nickname is "The Big Bamboo Man" where almost every other reference to his nickname is just "Big Bamboo" and calls Quarry the "California Bomber" which isn't a nickname I've ever heard him called, so the posters accuracy is in doubt if you ask me.

Il Duce wrote:Article from Canadian Newspaper,

Referring to the Jamaican as 'Stanford' Harris, as now based in Toronto.

So both Florida and Canada got it wrong............. :??

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q= ... WC_KjWQkqA

Yep looks that way. I can post others where his name is spelt the other way, it proves nothing. I'll take the word from a journalist who interviewed the guy over an obscure newspaper article or poster.

If your poster is so accurate why did they call Jerry Quarry the "California Bomber"?

Who knew Gene Fullmer's name was really spelled with only one "L".


Or that Emile Griffith's name really had an "S" on the end.


Or that Sugar Ray Seales' name really had only one "E".



Im sure glad those posters cleared that up for me.

Il Duce wrote:A 'nickname' versus a 'proper name'

You call that a comparison..........

Here is another Newspaper Article from El Hemeroteca {Spain}

October 2, 1970

Discussing > Jose Manuel Urtain fighting 'Stanford' Harris, a Jamaican Heavyweight
in Frankfort, Germany.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q= ... 0Trorpvnjg

I never said that. I pointed out that the poster you think is the font of all knowledge regarding his name had Quarry's nickname wrong, therefore throwing doubt over it's accuracy. I wouldn't waste your time trawling obscure Spanish newspapers either to try and prove your right. We can all shows links to newspapers where he is named Stamford so it proves nothing. The only source I can find where his actually real name is given is the one interview you state is incorrect. I asked you to back up why its wrong and you can't.

I stopped reading your links a long time ago. theyve never proven anything except that they often deviate wildly from what you think they say.

The fact that you would expect us to believe a baffoon like you over one of the worlds most respected authors is hilarious.