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Prime Gerald McClellan against a prime Sugar Ray Robinson? What do you see happening in this fight?

What advantages (If any) would Gerald have over Sugar Ray Robinson?


What advantages (If any) would Sugar Ray Robinson have over McClellan?


How do you see this fight panning out?


Who would win?


Why?

Hard to say; styles makes fights. Maybe the winner could take on whoever would have won a match between Mickey Walker and Tony Danza.

McClellan, by sheer virtue of being born in 1967 has used evolution to be superior to Sugar Ray. Of course the mighty McLellan is 175 on fight night so would destroy the puny Ray Robinson.

NYDominican wrote:Prime Gerald McClellan against a prime Sugar Ray Robinson? What do you see happening in this fight?

What advantages (If any) would Gerald have over Sugar Ray Robinson?


What advantages (If any) would Sugar Ray Robinson have over McClellan?


How do you see this fight panning out?


Who would win?


Why?

Has Robinson ever fought someone with that much power? Has mcclellan ever fought anyone as badass as Robinson? sorry, all I have is questions, no answers.

Robinson's ring IQ is off the chart. Slips and slides through the round one onslaught then goes on to pick apart and kayo G-Man.

Tuan_Jim wrote:Robinson's ring IQ is off the chart. Slips and slides through the round one onslaught then goes on to pick apart and kayo G-Man.

This

BarryWashington wrote:Haha that's funny.

Dudes love to hold on to the past with rose tinted glasses

That's exactly what you're doing with Gerald.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

BarryWashington wrote:Haha that's funny.

Dudes love to hold on to the past with rose tinted glasses

That's exactly what you're doing with Gerald.

Exactly.

BarryWashington wrote:Not at all.

I'm sure you don't think so.

BarryWashington wrote:Way to avoid the points I made and only respond to one part to keep your own point of view. Come on man that's kid poo

LOL, I didn't avoid anything. My only post was in response to you accusing everyone of doing the same thing you are. You Know? The actual point of our discussion?

I'd pick Robinson by decision if that makes you feel better.

LaMotta was a huge Middleweight. You love McClellan, I liked him too. You just can't toss around rose tinted glasses when you have him dominating Roy Jones and close to a pick um with Hagler. While you accuse me of kids shit, you didn't make a prediction here either.

BarryWashington wrote:And G Man was like 6'0-6'1", 77-78" in reach, 175-180 in ring weight. Dude's frame was massive. Wayyy bigger than Jake

Jake was easily 170 or more in the ring. Height isn't size.

BarryWashington wrote:Sure it is. Changes the whole approach. I'm sure their arm lengths were noticeably different

Then Sergio Martinez is bigger than David Tua. Gerald was a huge Middle, but he wasn't waaaay bigger than LaMotta. More importantly, he wasn't better.

I'll agree that you're wrong.

Nigel Benn

Beat SRR, ha are you serious. McClellan had a massively padded record. The first two guys he fought who had more wins than losses beat him. Yes he could punch but his defence wasn't that great, he hardly threw a jab and the best wins were against Mugabi and Jackson. Mugabi wasn't the same fighter who fought Hagler and was stopped in one round by Norris a year before. Jackson was a good win but that doesn't make McClellan an ATG.

SRR by stoppage after giving him a boxing lesson.

Robinson would move and jab, and outwork McClellan all night to win a wide decision. He'd take some big shots early and get rocked on a few occasions, but later in the fight he'd be in full control and he'd walk away the clear winner.

Because if Julian Jackson and Nigel Benn cannot KO you, then you simply cannot be KOd!

Except Thomas Tate, 12 rds versus Jackson, takes some huge shots, stays on his feet. Roy Jones whacks him with one well-placed shot. Sugarboy Malinga, 22 rds versus Nigel Benn, eats some dingers. Roy Jones whacks him with one well-placed shot.

Sugar Ray could certainly whack an iron chin guy with one well placed shot and KO him. He could wear down a bigger, stronger, iron chin guy over 15 rds and stop him too. I can't believe I have to point this out to anyone on a Boxers of the Past forum.

Tuan_Jim wrote:Because if Julian Jackson and Nigel Benn cannot KO you, then you simply cannot be KOd!

Except Thomas Tate, 12 rds versus Jackson, takes some huge shots, stays on his feet. Roy Jones whacks him with one well-placed shot. Sugarboy Malinga, 22 rds versus Nigel Benn, eats some dingers. Roy Jones whacks him with one well-placed shot.

Sugar Ray could certainly whack an iron chin guy with one well placed shot and KO him. He could wear down a bigger, stronger, iron chin guy over 15 rds and stop him too. I can't believe I have to point this out to anyone on a Boxers of the Past forum.

It must be your rose tinted glasses.

Golovkin would slaughter McClellan.

BarryWashington wrote:Who said he beats Robinson? The joke is how Robinson is going to stop McClellan. The same guy who ages bombs from Jackson and it took having a blood clot in his brain for rounds to only take a knee against Benn.

I'm a huge Robinson fan but he's not stopping McClellan unless you're banking on him getting a blood clot in his brain again.

Its a joke that arguably the greatest fighter in the history of boxing couldn't stop McClellan? What is a joke is that you believe it !!!

SRR would have boxed circles around him and stopped him, his chin was not proved in the same way as LaMotta's was. McClellan was a KO king, something he proved mainly against poor opponents or fighters with susceptible chins, sadly he wasn't able to prove much more than that.

It seems to me that after the 6th or 5th round, Gerald McClellan did not had the punch. The great Sugar Ray Robinson wins by UD or late KO.

His fights never lasted long because 95% of his opponents were crap. Check his record out, lots of debutants or guys with more losses than wins. No different to Lamar Clarke in that aspect. Sanderline Williams was a very tough and durable fighter so unsurprising he took him the distance. The first half decent fighters beat him and they were only journeymen.

The best fighters he fought were a past his best Mugabi, Jackson and Benn so yes his record was padded out.

BarryWashington wrote:Do you guys forget SRR got floored against Graziano? A guy who never fought a true top MW other than Zale? Don't act as if G Man couldn't drop Robinson with a body shot

I doubt he could even hit him with one.

Very competitive through the first 6, then Robinson takes over and eventually stops GM somewhere between the 10th and 13th.

BarryWashington wrote:Not at all.

People thinking SRR is going to stop some one is an athletic iron chinned 180 pound fighter is hilarious

Didn't way lesser guys than Robinson beat Gerald? Why didn't Team Mcclellan seek rematch in those defeats?

I don't really care if Robinson stops him or not; he's definitely winning the fight. Massive speed and skill advantage. McClellan's boxing ability has gotten widely over-rated. Take away his power and he was an average, decently schooled middleweight.