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Prime Gerald McClellan against a prime Marvin Hagler?


What advantages (If any) would Gerald have over Marvin Hagler?


What advantages (If any) would Marvin have over Gerald?


How do you see this fight panning out?


Who would win?


Why?

Ugly night for Gerald, he couldn't hurt Hagler and he couldn't out-box him. Prime Marvin wins an easy decision, old Marvin takes him out late in a brawl.

I tend to agree with Saad on this, however, without going to the record book....who was the hardest hitter he ever faced? Was it Hearns? I have had a suspicion that Tommy broke his hand very early on with Marvin, and if so, and if Tommy was his heaviest hitting opponent, it does sort of leave open the possibility of Gerald having a punchers chance.

If Tommy broke his hand early, then Marvin never really got a shot of his power after that moment. It just couldn't happen.

If Tommy's hand was never broken in that affair, (and I don't know the truth of this) then I doubt Gerald would be showing him something he hadn't experienced before.

BarryWashington wrote:Close decision.

Gerald can hurt Marvin easier than vice versa.

If it's 12 I'd say close decision if 15 then Marvin by three-four rounds

LOL, you don't always ride fighters, but when you do it's big time. Hagler would box circles around Gerald.

BoxBuzz wrote:I tend to agree with Saad on this, however, without going to the record book....who was the hardest hitter he ever faced? Was it Hearns? I have had a suspicion that Tommy broke his hand very early on with Marvin, and if so, and if Tommy was his heaviest hitting opponent, it does sort of leave open the possibility of Gerald having a punchers chance.

If Tommy broke his hand early, then Marvin never really got a shot of his power after that moment. It just couldn't happen.

If Tommy's hand was never broken in that affair, (and I don't know the truth of this) then I doubt Gerald would be showing him something he hadn't experienced before.

Eugene Hart and Bennie Briscoe didn't break their hands. The huge gap in Boxing ability is the real problem.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

BoxBuzz wrote:I tend to agree with Saad on this, however, without going to the record book....who was the hardest hitter he ever faced? Was it Hearns? I have had a suspicion that Tommy broke his hand very early on with Marvin, and if so, and if Tommy was his heaviest hitting opponent, it does sort of leave open the possibility of Gerald having a punchers chance.

If Tommy broke his hand early, then Marvin never really got a shot of his power after that moment. It just couldn't happen.

If Tommy's hand was never broken in that affair, (and I don't know the truth of this) then I doubt Gerald would be showing him something he hadn't experienced before.

Eugene Hart and Bennie Briscoe didn't break their hands. The huge gap in Boxing ability is the real problem.

I can't think of any MW I've ever seen that punched harder than Hart when that LH landed squarely.

hagler took a stonking uppercut from a prime john Mugabe,one of the biggest p4p punchers ever,he shook his head and carried on like he`d been merely inconvenienced,a few years before he took everything duran threw at him for 12 rounds,there isn't anything that McClellan can do to beat hagler,he can`t knock him out,he can`t outbox him and he can`t wear him down,hagler stoppage by round 10

BarryWashington wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

BarryWashington wrote:Close decision.

Gerald can hurt Marvin easier than vice versa.

If it's 12 I'd say close decision if 15 then Marvin by three-four rounds

LOL, you don't always ride fighters, but when you do it's big time. Hagler would box circles around Gerald.

Disagree.

It would be competitive.

You guys have to keep in mind that G Man was around fvckin 178-180 when he entered the ring.

Gerald's jab, lateral movement, clinch tricks and strength would help him give a good effort.

Mugabi hit very hard, but not McClellan hard

ok

Yeah based on my refreshed recollection of the Hart fight, I think even a punchers chance could be out the window. Marvin earned his iron jaw papers the ol' fashion way. He earned them

Marvin UD in all likelihood. Pretty wide margin too.

Marvin to jab his head off and at time make Gerald appear pedestrian. Maybe a couple of rounds where Gerald looks in it as he throws the kitchen sink at Hagler but then Marvin takes control. KO 13 or Ud 12.

NYDominican wrote:Prime Gerald McClellan against a prime Marvin Hagler?


What advantages (If any) would Gerald have over Marvin Hagler?


What advantages (If any) would Marvin have over Gerald?


How do you see this fight panning out?


Who would win?


Why?

Mcclellans mightly cannon bombs bounce off haglers head with the KO effect of ping pong balls. Hearns and Magabi couldn't dent Hagler, so I'm betting gerald would end up the same as those ATG bangers did against Hagler, namely a KO victim.

Hagler TKO in later rounds or close decision

Hagler, by 8th round kayo.Too much for McClellan.

BoxBuzz wrote:I tend to agree with Saad on this, however, without going to the record book....who was the hardest hitter he ever faced? Was it Hearns? I have had a suspicion that Tommy broke his hand very early on with Marvin, and if so, and if Tommy was his heaviest hitting opponent, it does sort of leave open the possibility of Gerald having a punchers chance.

If Tommy broke his hand early, then Marvin never really got a shot of his power after that moment. It just couldn't happen.

If Tommy's hand was never broken in that affair, (and I don't know the truth of this) then I doubt Gerald would be showing him something he hadn't experienced before.

Tommy broke his hand but the shot he broke his hand with, whoa. He hit Hagler with a few hard shots and shook him but once Hagler adjusted to it, Hagler confidence grew. Hagler did what needed to be done to beat Hearns but what only a special fighter could do to prime Hearns: take his shots and take it to him. Only Leonard had conquered Tommy at that point and it was when he decided to take it to the lion. That said, we're talking about a guy, Hagler who had never went down from being hurt at all.

Also, Hagler had great boxing ability and could outbox Mccellan if he wanted to. He was an all around boxer and could do a lot of things to beat Gerald, who would often neglect his actual boxing ability.

BarryWashington wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

BarryWashington wrote:Close decision.

Gerald can hurt Marvin easier than vice versa.

If it's 12 I'd say close decision if 15 then Marvin by three-four rounds

LOL, you don't always ride fighters, but when you do it's big time. Hagler would box circles around Gerald.

Disagree.

It would be competitive.

You guys have to keep in mind that G Man was around fvckin 178-180 when he entered the ring.

Gerald's jab, lateral movement, clinch tricks and strength would help him give a good effort.

Mugabi hit very hard, but not McClellan hard

McClellan also gassed hard if he couldn't get you out of there. Against Hagler, gassing is like suicide as Hagler had scary conditioning. Hagler isn't a guy who would get KO'd in the first round. His boxing ability is somewhat underrated now.

BarryWashington wrote:What evidence are you using that he gassed hard?

The Benn fight where he was fighting with a blood clot in his brain?

It's not like he had a blood clot for the entire fight. He did look gassed fairly early.

Though obviously, that fight should've been over in the first. But that's another story.

Benn's chin and stamina were not in Hagler's class, if Benn could stand up to his punches then Hagler would. Hagler by late stoppage or points.

Gerald's stamina is only relevant to him lasting the distance. Marvin was so superior as a boxer it would be like a Mayweather fight with more action.

There is speculation that in the Benn fight, the injury happened in the 2nd round and if you rewatch that round, you see clearly an instance when after a right lands, McClellan reacts funny. So I don't think we can justifuably say that he would have 'gassed'.

As has been said, the difference, the big difference is boxing ability. Hagler could do it all and in his prime his sublime boxing skills, speed and strength would be too much, I feel.

BarryWashington wrote:What evidence are you using that he gassed hard?

The Benn fight where he was fighting with a blood clot in his brain?

I never said hard, but it's clear after the first few rounds he wasn't as dangerous. How many boxers did he KO late?

IKSRTFO wrote:

BarryWashington wrote:What evidence are you using that he gassed hard?

The Benn fight where he was fighting with a blood clot in his brain?

I never said hard, but it's clear after the first few rounds he wasn't as dangerous. How many boxers did he KO late?

You really did say hard. Reread your post.

SamWise72 wrote:

IKSRTFO wrote:

BarryWashington wrote:What evidence are you using that he gassed hard?

The Benn fight where he was fighting with a blood clot in his brain?

I never said hard, but it's clear after the first few rounds he wasn't as dangerous. How many boxers did he KO late?

You really did say hard. Reread your post.

I did. Regardless, he doesn't have the stamina to keep up with Hagler in any way shape or form

Easy win for Hagler. 10/10.

The great Marvelous wins this one after absorbing lots of bombs from the G-Man. A great fight while it lasts. Another Hagler vs Hearns affair? Maybe. McClellan after 5 rounds, no match for Marvelous.