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I fear for David Haye tomorrow...
Posted: 11 May 2004, 12:05
by bennie
I fear he's going to struggle against "King" Arthur Williams. I fear he's going to look as bad as Audley did.
Posted: 11 May 2004, 12:06
by stujones
I fear even worst things than that. I think he could end up being KO'd.
Posted: 11 May 2004, 12:12
by kevo
have faith people. I don't think his team would have picked this hard a fight so early in Haye's career if they weren't confident in his ability
Posted: 11 May 2004, 12:12
by kevo
have faith people. I don't think his team would have picked this hard a fight so early in Haye's career if they weren't confident in his ability
Posted: 11 May 2004, 12:16
by Kilburn
I fear that Haye won't be able to KO Williams at any stage in the fight and..
Hang on is this a 12 rounder or just an 8 rounder?
Posted: 11 May 2004, 12:19
by Eric the Viking
Even with Williams way past his prime, still looks to be a big step up in class for Haye.
Seen Williams a few times in the past year or so on ESPN, and although he still keeps himself in decent physical shape, he's clearly way over the hill - any decently-skilled cruiser with good handspeed has a shot against him. That having been said, he did give O'Neil Bell all he could handle 18 months ago, so maybe he can reach deep down and pull out a little bit of the old King. But I wouldn;t lay money on it.
Did anyone see his recent fight vs. the Russian Tokarev? That should be a pretty good indicator of the current state of his game.
Posted: 11 May 2004, 12:20
by kevo
Kilburn wrote:I fear that Haye won't be able to KO Williams at any stage in the fight and..
Hang on is this a 12 rounder or just an 8 rounder?
I think it's 8 rounds
Posted: 11 May 2004, 12:24
by Kilburn
Kevo wrote:I think it's 8 rounds
All this time I've assumed it was a 12 rounder god knows why, probably because Arthur is such an experienced campaigner and an ex world champ.
I reckon Haye is going to fight boring here, keeping well out of danger just to pick up the name.
Posted: 11 May 2004, 12:25
by overhand_right
i think its a stupid fight and davids going to get chinned.
talk about over matching a prospect.
wasnt that long ago i watched david nearly kayo some cuban, but then the cuban turned it round on david and once his nose was bloodied he accepted defeat very quickly & gave up.
Posted: 11 May 2004, 12:29
by Matchfixer
Kilburn wrote:Kevo wrote:I think it's 8 rounds
All this time I've assumed it was a 12 rounder god knows why, probably because Arthur is such an experienced campaigner and an ex world champ.
I reckon Haye is going to fight boring here, keeping well out of danger just to pick up the name.
I pray he doesn't come out swinging like a lunatic (as seen against Rasani.)
Seriously though, Haye's fights are never boring. This one should be a cracker.
Posted: 11 May 2004, 12:34
by stujones
This fight shouldn't be an 8 rounder, its an exciting contest but it being an 8 rounder favours Haye more than Williams.
Posted: 11 May 2004, 12:36
by Kilburn
It says 10 rounds on the Boxrec schedule.
Posted: 11 May 2004, 12:43
by knockout artist
stujones wrote:I fear even worst things than that. I think he could end up being KO'd.
I will be at ringside tomorrow.
I reckon I might need to put on a pair of goalie gloves to catch Haye's head.
Particularly if he dont keep that left hand up.
I hope i'm wrong, Id love it for Haye to win in style, so that Hobson & Evans Waterman show Warren how its done.
Posted: 11 May 2004, 12:43
by kevo
overhand_right wrote:i think its a stupid fight and davids going to get chinned.
talk about over matching a prospect.
wasnt that long ago i watched david nearly kayo some cuban, but then the cuban turned it round on david and once his nose was bloodied he accepted defeat very quickly & gave up.
I saw that fight aswell. I think the Cuban's name was Solis, and in all fairness to Haye, he was pretty damn good.
Posted: 11 May 2004, 12:50
by MightyWarrior
I can't find any odds on this fight - anyone know if the bookies are offering?
On the face of it a dangerous fight to take so early in his career - could end in disaster. Who's doing Haye's matchmaking these days?
Posted: 11 May 2004, 12:54
by knockout artist
MightyWarrior wrote:I can't find any odds on this fight - anyone know if the bookies are offering?
On the face of it a dangerous fight to take so early in his career - could end in disaster. Who's doing Haye's matchmaking these days?
Richard Poxon

Posted: 11 May 2004, 12:57
by bennie
knockout artist wrote:MightyWarrior wrote:I can't find any odds on this fight - anyone know if the bookies are offering?
On the face of it a dangerous fight to take so early in his career - could end in disaster. Who's doing Haye's matchmaking these days?
Richard Poxon

Is Richard Poxon the "Wolf" lookalike who worked Clinton Woods' corner in the Glen Johnson rematch?
Posted: 11 May 2004, 13:32
by REAL_DEAL
i had a great chat with williams and the team
Posted: 11 May 2004, 13:50
by neil r
if haye struggles tomorrow then it will have been a bad period for three of the highest profile and "brightest prospects" in the UK
Audley looking a crock of shit against francis, Froch looking awful against Adamu in his last outing and now it looks like Haye might struggle.
so for that reason alone i hope haye wins in good form. we could do with a bright prospect who actually shines!
Re: I fear for David Haye tomorrow...
Posted: 11 May 2004, 14:56
by adamiw
bennie wrote:I fear he's going to struggle against "King" Arthur Williams. I fear he's going to look as bad as Audley did.
thats fine, if he wins, but doesn't look to impressive, that tells him he needs to take a step back and not rush things. It's not like Williams is the same level as opponent as Julius, and thats not even in a p4p sense.
Posted: 11 May 2004, 15:15
by Lefthookhappy19
The Cuban was Olandier Fonte Solis, I think he's the current Heavyweight amatuer champ, almost out as well. Would have been if not for that damn standing count.
I think Haye needs to stop being willing to take a punch just to try and land the perfect counter. Thats what got him in trouble against Mock. Froch has the same problem, I think Froch has the far superior chin though so he can get away with it more. I think he needs to work on his defense, the knockouts will come because of his already heavy hands.
Posted: 11 May 2004, 15:22
by Loftgroov
stujones wrote:I fear even worst things than that. I think he could end up being KO'd.
Haye will win.
Posted: 11 May 2004, 15:37
by Hardhitters11
ALl your fears are unfounded trust me Haye will win this without too much trouble.
HH
Posted: 11 May 2004, 15:49
by adamiw
stujones wrote:This fight shouldn't be an 8 rounder, its an exciting contest but it being an 8 rounder favours Haye more than Williams.
Haye wanted a 10 rounder but for some reason it was cut to 8
probably a wise thing to do, i dont think he's been beyond 4.
i was discussing Haye with an american fan at another forum. basically just giving him some info. And i realised that IF everything goes according to plan (i.e. Haye beats Williams and then Thomspon) he could be in the world top 10, after only a dozen or so fights!
how rare is that for a brit? for anyone?
Posted: 11 May 2004, 15:59
by REAL_DEAL
Williams record is misleading, they were saying his most recent fights were home town robberies, i have also seen a few of williams fight and he does get robbed, in reality he should only have a few defeats on the record