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some wins dont appear that impressive at the time but look great a few years later ,for example mcauleys win over baby jake, benns win over barkley( supposedly shot but went on to win world titles at 2 higher wieghts) and what about jackson ko ing norris before norris went on to dominate the division, must be many more

Calzaghe's win over Hopkins would have to fit this category considering all that Hopkins has accomplished since that loss.

Junior Jones' wins over Barrera.

Tyson v Holmes, always my favourite in this category.
Reggie Johnson v Steve Collins
Sanchez v Nelson

Lewis v kilt- Carbajal v acre

witherspoon wrote:Tyson v Holmes, always my favourite in this category.

Disagree with that one.

Chris john v Marquez and whoever it was that beat pacman at fly

gilgamesh wrote:Calzaghe's win over Hopkins would have to fit this category considering all that Hopkins has accomplished since that loss.

Junior Jones' wins over Barrera.

I thought that Hopkins deserved the win myself but in hindsight it's a good win no doubt.

Morales win over Pac even if a bit of a swan song.

Almost forgot Thompson v haye and Carl Johansson v Ricky burns

And everyone who beat Johnny nelson at cruiser

littlepug wrote:Chris john v Marquez and whoever it was that beat pacman at fly

2 guys beat Pacquiao at Flyweight...by KO.

littlepug wrote:Lewis v kilt- Carbajal v acre

Didn't seem like it at the time but yes by beating Vitali he was beating one of the best Heavyweights the era after his had to offer. If Wlad hadn't already been upset by Corrie Sanders before that, he probably would've took him on too before retiring.

I think he and Wlad would have fought if Lewis didn't lose to Rahman.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I think he and Wlad would have fought if Lewis didn't lose to Rahman.

That too.

I would have been cheering for Wlad big time. And while his cautious style is better at preventing upsets, he'd have had a better chance balls to the wall against Lennox.

I think Wlad has improved a lot *atleast in defending his chin* since the Sander's days. He was a lot more stiff and robotic looking back then before he hooked up with Manny IMO.

His offense was dynamic and fluid then. My point was that he wouldn't be able to beat Lennox by jabbing him and trying to hold him.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:His offense was dynamic and fluid then. My point was that he wouldn't be able to beat Lennox by jabbing him and trying to hold him.

No doubt. It could of either been a fun fight with Wlad pushing the action or an absolute stinker, physical chess type match where both guys were scared to commit so absolutely nothing happens.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I would have been cheering for Wlad big time. And while his cautious style is better at preventing upsets, he'd have had a better chance balls to the wall against Lennox.

I agree. His best bet would've been to come out and go right at Lennox.

gilgamesh wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I would have been cheering for Wlad big time. And while his cautious style is better at preventing upsets, he'd have had a better chance balls to the wall against Lennox.

I agree. His best bet would've been to come out and go right at Lennox.

Whilst Wlad's style is boring to watch, I do think that he gets a rough ride at times. I have a feeling when he retires and the next guy comes along and takes his mantle but yet still beating the same calibre of opposition, he'll be proclaimed as a great fighter by the staunch wlad haters

For me, Lennox had more facets to his game.
I'm a steady fan of Wlad (despite of his being in 2 crappiest bouts I can recall) but Lewis could compete with Wlad's game IMHO.
Wlad just isn't the sort to come out guns blazing. But then neither was Lewis, until he absolutely had to.

pablothunder wrote:For me, Lennox had more facets to his game.
I'm a steady fan of Wlad (despite of his being in 2 crappiest bouts I can recall) but Lewis could compete with Wlad's game IMHO.

Yeah I agree. Lennox had a better chin that Wlad *even whilst being knocked out a few times* so he could afford to take more risks than Wlad. Also whilst Wlad is pretty athletic for a guy of his size, Lennox was even more athletically gifted.

witherspoon wrote: Reggie Johnson v Steve Collins

does anybody know anything about this? i heard nothing about it until i stumbled across it
http://www.lancasterguardian.co.uk/news ... -1-6125703

"Former world boxing champion Steve Collins admitted he was nervous before making his return to the ring in Lancaster.

But after his three-round comeback bout gainst Morecambe ex-pro Frank Harrington on Saturday night, ‘The Celtic Warrior’ said he was ready for a fight with American legend Roy Jones Junior.


Collins, the only man ever to defeat fight legends Nigel Benn and Chris Eubank, put on a great show for fans at the University of Cumbria.

The former world middle and super middleweight champion, 49, looked fit and sharp against Harrington, who more than held his own during a sprightly exhibition contest."

Joe Louis vs. Rocky Marciano


At the time the win was considered something of a national calamity, and that Louis was this shell of a man who had no business being in the ring, etc. but as time has passed since then--- there have been arguments, debates, as to whether how far gone, or how good Louis was at that stage. Many people forget, Louis only took the Marciano fight because he was in debt--- but he was the #1 contender for the heavyweight championship. Louis, older, slower, etc. was still good enough, capable enough to be the top contender for Walcott. People forget this. So, I think, in a sense, the win for Marciano over Louis has gained a measure of respect over the years.

HomicideHenry wrote:Joe Louis vs. Rocky Marciano


At the time the win was considered something of a national calamity, and that Louis was this shell of a man who had no business being in the ring, etc. but as time has passed since then--- there have been arguments, debates, as to whether how far gone, or how good Louis was at that stage. Many people forget, Louis only took the Marciano fight because he was in debt--- but he was the #1 contender for the heavyweight championship. Louis, older, slower, etc. was still good enough, capable enough to be the top contender for Walcott. People forget this. So, I think, in a sense, the win for Marciano over Louis has gained a measure of respect over the years.

It would still rank as one of Rocky's 10 best wins I'm sure. Joe Louis wasn't completely shot I don't think, but he was well past his best. He probably had as much left as Tyson did for the Lewis fight.