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In response to the "victories that are often overlooked" thread. I figured it would make sense to make a Losses that seemed bad at the time, but have gone on to be losses against what we all see as a great fighter.

Some nominations into the topic: Tyson against Holyfield (everyone thought Holyfield was absolutely finished going into that first Tyson bout, he showed he still have some life in him)

Marquez vs Pacquiao III (I don't know about most of you, but I know I heard a lot of "Marquez is above his best weight, he'll get knocked out this time" kinda talk going into that 3rd bout)

I'm sure a lot of you can come up with better stuff. I just wanted to kick the topic off.

haye vs Thompson
looking back it was a good loss for haye as it calmed him down and Thompson who gained a lot of credit and some good fights after

gilgamesh wrote:In response to the "victories that are often overlooked" thread. I figured it would make sense to make a Losses that seemed bad at the time, but have gone on to be losses against what we all see as a great fighter.

Some nominations into the topic: Tyson against Holyfield (everyone thought Holyfield was absolutely finished going into that first Tyson bout, he showed he still have some life in him)

Marquez vs Pacquiao III (I don't know about most of you, but I know I heard a lot of "Marquez is above his best weight, he'll get knocked out this time" kinda talk going into that 3rd bout)

I don't think JMM's loss in the 3rd fight vs Pac ever looked bad, especially since many including myself thought it was a clear win for the Mexican.

dempseyfire wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:In response to the "victories that are often overlooked" thread. I figured it would make sense to make a Losses that seemed bad at the time, but have gone on to be losses against what we all see as a great fighter.

Some nominations into the topic: Tyson against Holyfield (everyone thought Holyfield was absolutely finished going into that first Tyson bout, he showed he still have some life in him)

Marquez vs Pacquiao III (I don't know about most of you, but I know I heard a lot of "Marquez is above his best weight, he'll get knocked out this time" kinda talk going into that 3rd bout)

I don't think JMM's loss in the 3rd fight vs Pac ever looked bad, especially since many including myself thought it was a clear win for the Mexican.

Well yeah that's true...that's kinda what I meant by mentioning it, but I'm sure I could've used better examples.

How about Bernard Hopkins' wins over Felix Trinidad and Kelly Pavlik...both seemed embarrassing for the losing fighters at the time, but have since come to be seen as "Just a loss to a great fighter" which there is really no shame in.

Klitschko vs. Purrity, Sanders and Brewster would fit here, I believe.

Especially the last two.

Bobbyptsd wrote:Klitschko vs. Purrity, Sanders and Brewster would fit here, I believe.

Especially the last two.

You could make an argument for Brewster. Sanders best days were already behind him when they fought, any boost his reputation had after that has really been as a result of beating Wlad. Purrity doesn't fits the criteria at all for me.

For a very recent example how about Khan vs Garcia.

J-C wrote:

Bobbyptsd wrote:Klitschko vs. Purrity, Sanders and Brewster would fit here, I believe.

Especially the last two.

You could make an argument for Brewster. Sanders best days were already behind him when they fought, any boost his reputation had after that has really been as a result of beating Wlad. Purrity doesn't fits the criteria at all for me.

For a very recent example how about Khan vs Garcia.

Yeah you're right, I kind of misunderstood the actual premise there. I took it more as: "losses that didn't matter because the loser went on to do well" when Gilgamesh's idea was actually more like : "Losses that didn't look as bad because the guy he lost to went on to do well"

It's infecting other threads Buzz, I thought you were going to contain this :(

This silly Mussolini/Duce fellow is obsessed. We're having a normal boxing conversation and the guy can only cough up something bitter and totally irrelevant about Alfredo Evangelista, 30 god damn years after the fight?

Anyone think he might be senile? Or living with his nemesis inside his own head? There's something very wrong with the man and it's embarrassing to see.