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Re: The Heavyweight Prospects ~ 'February 1980'

Posted: 21 Feb 2014, 12:52
by Nile4000
Good List by them.Of course, I agree with the #1 choice.But James Tillis should've been #2, and Snipes in the top 10.

Re: The Heavyweight Prospects ~ 'February 1980'

Posted: 21 Feb 2014, 15:59
by Bodyshot3
Jumbo was the first guy to rattle big Frank Bruno wasn't he? Pretty sure he joined the party late due to a spell in the nick but still had a decent career and was a dangerous, clubbing hitter.

Re: The Heavyweight Prospects ~ 'February 1980'

Posted: 21 Feb 2014, 18:50
by drunkenpiper36
Bodyshot3 wrote:Jumbo was the first guy to rattle big Frank Bruno wasn't he? Pretty sure he joined the party late due to a spell in the nick but still had a decent career and was a dangerous, clubbing hitter.
I've always wanted to find that fight on film but don't know if it exists.. Apparently Cummings had Bruno out on his feet towards the end of a round, and Terry Lawless had to grab hold of Frank's arm and steer him back into his corner.. Bruno came out in the next round and battered Floyd to victory.. Of course this is all the testimony of someone else who relayed this to me, but from the sound of it, it was a classic battle of young punchers. Be interesting to learn a little bit more about cumming's abilities as some of fights sound like he might have had a bit of potential. I guess he's serving a life sentence for armed robbery??

Re: The Heavyweight Prospects ~ 'February 1980'

Posted: 21 Feb 2014, 19:35
by Controversial
drunkenpiper36 wrote:
Bodyshot3 wrote:Jumbo was the first guy to rattle big Frank Bruno wasn't he? Pretty sure he joined the party late due to a spell in the nick but still had a decent career and was a dangerous, clubbing hitter.
I've always wanted to find that fight on film but don't know if it exists.. Apparently Cummings had Bruno out on his feet towards the end of a round, and Terry Lawless had to grab hold of Frank's arm and steer him back into his corner.. Bruno came out in the next round and battered Floyd to victory.. Of course this is all the testimony of someone else who relayed this to me, but from the sound of it, it was a classic battle of young punchers. Be interesting to learn a little bit more about cumming's abilities as some of fights sound like he might have had a bit of potential. I guess he's serving a life sentence for armed robbery??
There's a little known site called YouTube that has the fight. Just search Bruno Cummings and bingo it appears :-)

Re: The Heavyweight Prospects ~ 'February 1980'

Posted: 21 Feb 2014, 19:42
by drunkenpiper36
Controversial wrote:
drunkenpiper36 wrote:
Bodyshot3 wrote:Jumbo was the first guy to rattle big Frank Bruno wasn't he? Pretty sure he joined the party late due to a spell in the nick but still had a decent career and was a dangerous, clubbing hitter.
I've always wanted to find that fight on film but don't know if it exists.. Apparently Cummings had Bruno out on his feet towards the end of a round, and Terry Lawless had to grab hold of Frank's arm and steer him back into his corner.. Bruno came out in the next round and battered Floyd to victory.. Of course this is all the testimony of someone else who relayed this to me, but from the sound of it, it was a classic battle of young punchers. Be interesting to learn a little bit more about cumming's abilities as some of fights sound like he might have had a bit of potential. I guess he's serving a life sentence for armed robbery??
There's a little known site called YouTube that has the fight. Just search Bruno Cummings and bingo it appears :-)
I didn't know youtube had it.. It didn't when I checked a few years ago. Thanks.

Re: The Heavyweight Prospects ~ 'February 1980'

Posted: 28 Feb 2014, 16:55
by Nile4000
Surprised they didn't have Lee Canalito on that list.

Re: The Heavyweight Prospects ~ 'February 1980'

Posted: 01 Mar 2014, 05:51
by gp.
Nile4000 wrote:Good List by them.Of course, I agree with the #1 choice.But James Tillis should've been #2, and Snipes in the top 10.

To be fair it's always easier to rate prospects 30 years on.

Re: The Heavyweight Prospects ~ 'February 1980'

Posted: 02 Mar 2014, 20:17
by Dart340
I wonder if Boxing Monthly did this by word of mouth or by merely looking at records.

I never heard of Eddie Wilson and his getting zapped in one round by light punching Marvin Stinson probably ensured that fact.

Finally caught Jeff Shelburg in action on a recently uploaded YouTube fight against Tex Cobb and he was hopelessly outsized- almost to absurdity- with no physique to speak of. He was a small, pudgy 205 pounder, although he could crack pretty well. No one who was watching him live would've considered him a "contender".

I remember when Sports Illustrated tried to sell Percell Davis and Jeff Podgurski as future top-tenners too.

Re: The Heavyweight Prospects ~ 'February 1980'

Posted: 02 Mar 2014, 20:59
by dempseyfire
Dart340 wrote:I wonder if Boxing Monthly did this by word of mouth or by merely looking at records.

I never heard of Eddie Wilson and his getting zapped in one round by light punching Marvin Stinson probably ensured that fact.

Finally caught Jeff Shelburg in action on a recently uploaded YouTube fight against Tex Cobb and he was hopelessly outsized- almost to absurdity- with no physique to speak of. He was a small, pudgy 205 pounder, although he could crack pretty well. No one who was watching him live would've considered him a "contender".

I remember when Sports Illustrated tried to sell Percell Davis and Jeff Podgurski as future top-tenners too.

It is rather bizarre they'd rank Shelburg, who'd lost twice to a journeyman, over undefeated guys with noted AM careers like Tillis, Gregg and Snipes (the latter not as decorated but was a two-time Golden Gloves winner).

Re: The Heavyweight Prospects ~ 'February 1980'

Posted: 03 Mar 2014, 12:28
by Nile4000
gp. wrote:
Nile4000 wrote:Good List by them.Of course, I agree with the #1 choice.But James Tillis should've been #2, and Snipes in the top 10.

To be fair it's always easier to rate prospects 30 years on.
True, but some guys you can tell they are solid gold from jump.

Re: The Heavyweight Prospects ~ 'February 1980'

Posted: 04 Mar 2014, 08:57
by Dart340
There's almost no info out there on Baca, but in the one photo available from his fighting days he looks less than imposing. You knew him locally, I'm guessing. What was the buzz?

Re: The Heavyweight Prospects ~ 'February 1980'

Posted: 07 Mar 2014, 16:03
by Nile4000
Interesting that Pinklon Thomas wasn't listed either.