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Jones on why Jones/Benn never happened
Posted: 13 May 2004, 14:27
by Eric the Viking
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-pen ... nes-sports
"How did I not fight Nigel Benn when I called Nigel Benn in his Los Angeles house, asked him to fight me. He told me he was going through a divorce, he would call me back and we would set something up. He never called me back. That's me?"
Posted: 13 May 2004, 14:31
by dr_hook
Don’t believe anything on what he says
Can he explain why he never meet jirov, vitali, lewis, Tyson, toney 2, Hopkins 2, DM, Douglas, etc etc etc happened!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: 13 May 2004, 14:39
by Eric the Viking
dr_hook wrote:Don?t believe anything on what he says
Can he explain why he never meet jirov, vitali, lewis, Tyson, toney 2, Hopkins 2, DM, Douglas, etc etc etc happened!!!!!!!!!!
Believe it or not, all those guys were getting divorced - some in fact from each other, but I won't be crass enough to name names. ;)
When was Benn's divorce?
Posted: 13 May 2004, 14:43
by stujones
http://www.fightnews.com/guzman0046.htm
Roy looks ill again, don't write off the upset in his next fight.
Posted: 13 May 2004, 14:55
by Lefthookhappy19
dr_hook wrote:Don’t believe anything on what he says
Can he explain why he never meet jirov, vitali, lewis, Tyson, toney 2, Hopkins 2, DM, Douglas, etc etc etc happened!!!!!!!!!!
Jirovs a cruiser, Hopkins turned down good money for a Jones rematch, Toneys only recently become hot property again. Lucky for Dariusz that Jones fight never happened really, DM had no interest in Jones and quite rightly Roy wasn't willing to go to Germany. The other fights against heavys? Why the hell should a former middleweight be critisized for not fighting the massive heavys. In fact recently Roy said he's willing to talk about those big heavys for one last big payday.
Posted: 13 May 2004, 16:08
by Eric the Viking
He does look a bit drawn, but maybe that's just from standing in the poor lighting in the shadow of Tarver's ungodly-big lower lip.
Don King wrote:He is faster then a speeding bullet, able to leap tall buildings in a single bound, and more powerful then a locomotive. However, "Black Superman" is not affected by the standard green Kryptonite, but instead his weakness comes in the form of "Blackonite'.
"Blackonite"
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:D He probably wanted to use "Ebonite," but would've gotten sued by the bowling-ball manufacturer of the same name.
"Black" + "Superman" = "Bluperman"?? Not sure if I like the sound of that...
Posted: 13 May 2004, 17:17
by jamesmcdonnell
Shit, Jones looks fornicating awful, is it just me, or does he look more and more like Monkey from the old TV series every day?
Posted: 13 May 2004, 17:19
by Twinkle Toes
Jones does look very drawn. I don't like the look of that. Wonder what odds I can get on Tarver.
Posted: 13 May 2004, 17:43
by steve689
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Shit, Jones looks fornicating awful, is it just me, or does he look more and more like Monkey from the old TV series every day?
Lol he does in that photo

Posted: 13 May 2004, 18:28
by hitman_hatton1
jones v benn was being lined up but a certain sugarboy malinga put paid to that when he beat benn in march 96.
Posted: 13 May 2004, 18:50
by Eric the Viking
hitman_hatton1 wrote:jones v benn was being lined up but a certain sugarboy malinga put paid to that when he beat benn in march 96.
I kinda have my doubts as to whether Benn wanted any part of Jones after losing to Malinga (the scores for that one were really bizarre, BTW - 2 lopsided ones for Malinga, and the third one 114-112 for Benn), and having seen what Jones did to the Sugar Boy just a few years before. What a left hook that was.
Posted: 13 May 2004, 19:12
by MightyWarrior
Jesus Christ he looks terrible in those photos! Seriously boiled down. I've been thinking Tarver is going to give him another very hard fight without a doubt, but that Roy would maybe pull it off with a late surge points win. But those photos are making me think Tarver will win this.........
Shocking pictures.
And Benn quite rightly wanted no part of Jones, neither did Eubank. No shame there, Roy was just different class. Benn and Eubank had enough hard fights in their careers without worrying about old Roy too.
Posted: 14 May 2004, 04:07
by Southpaw Stylist
Jones may have overtrained this time round.
Posted: 14 May 2004, 05:50
by stujones
hitman_hatton1 wrote:jones v benn was being lined up but a certain sugarboy malinga put paid to that when he beat benn in march 96.
No, Jones vs Benn would never have happend unless the ££££ was right, Benn said as much in Boxing Monthly a few years ago. The money we would have said yes to taking on Jones was not feesable to make the promoters any profit.
Its like Collins claiming Jones turned him down, but I could say that aswell cause I am prepared to fight Jones for 7 million. The show would be at a loss.
Posted: 14 May 2004, 08:50
by Loftgroov
Christ yes, he looks quite gaunt eh.
Hopefully Tarver gets the decision this time. Lennox had to beat Holyfield twice to get a decision... I guess it might be the same for Tarver....
Posted: 14 May 2004, 08:55
by steve689
Jones won the first fight though, i was a Tarver believer after the BBC cast but since watching it on HBO i realised i was wrong. However i picked Tarver the first time and predict he will win his time too, he has the style to beat Jones and was a class amateur remember, his abnormally long arms give him super human powers.
Re: Jones on why Jones/Benn never happened
Posted: 14 May 2004, 12:01
by KOJOE90
Eric the Viking wrote:http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-pen ... nes-sports
"How did I not fight Nigel Benn when I called Nigel Benn in his Los Angeles house, asked him to fight me. He told me he was going through a divorce, he would call me back and we would set something up. He never called me back. That's me?"
I always got the impression that Benn at 168lbs would fight
anyone if the money was right.
Although at 160lbs I don't think he was in any rush to fight Herol Greham, but to be fair who was?
Re: Jones on why Jones/Benn never happened
Posted: 14 May 2004, 12:05
by stujones
KOJOE90 wrote:Eric the Viking wrote:http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-pen ... nes-sports
"How did I not fight Nigel Benn when I called Nigel Benn in his Los Angeles house, asked him to fight me. He told me he was going through a divorce, he would call me back and we would set something up. He never called me back. That's me?"
I always got the impression that Benn at 168lbs would fight
anyone if the money was right.
Although at 160lbs I don't think he was in any rush to fight Herol Greham, but to be fair who was?
I lost a bit of respect for Nigel after he quit vs Collins (the 2nd time). He heart wasn't in the game when he said his fire was back. I'm sure he would have fought anyone if the money was write - but his perception of the right money was too high to make the promoters any profit. Infact, they would be in debt.
Re: Jones on why Jones/Benn never happened
Posted: 14 May 2004, 12:12
by KOJOE90
stujones wrote:KOJOE90 wrote:
I always got the impression that Benn at 168lbs would fight
anyone if the money was right.
Although at 160lbs I don't think he was in any rush to fight Herol Greham, but to be fair who was?
I lost a bit of respect for Nigel after he quit vs Collins (the 2nd time). He heart wasn't in the game when he said his fire was back. I'm sure he would have fought anyone if the money was write - but his perception of the right money was too high to make the promoters any profit. Infact, they would be in debt.
I felt more dissappointed than any lose of respect with Benn against Collins to be honest. I've always felt that underneath all the fighting talk etc Benn is a
very sensitive person and after the McClellen fight the fire had indeed slowly burnt out.
Benn is still in my opinion one of our most exciting fighters and one of my personal favourites. Oh how I miss the Benn fights.
Re: Jones on why Jones/Benn never happened
Posted: 14 May 2004, 12:14
by stujones
KOJOE90 wrote:stujones wrote:KOJOE90 wrote:
I always got the impression that Benn at 168lbs would fight anyone if the money was right.
Although at 160lbs I don't think he was in any rush to fight Herol Greham, but to be fair who was?
I lost a bit of respect for Nigel after he quit vs Collins (the 2nd time). He heart wasn't in the game when he said his fire was back. I'm sure he would have fought anyone if the money was write - but his perception of the right money was too high to make the promoters any profit. Infact, they would be in debt.
I felt more dissappointed than any lose of respect with Benn against Collins to be honest. I've always felt that underneath all the fighting talk etc Benn is a
very sensitive person and after the McClellen fight the fire had indeed slowly burnt out.
Benn is still in my opinion one of our most exciting fighters and one of my personal favourites. Oh how I miss the Benn fights.
Oh yeah, my loss of opinion wasn't for the fact he quit, but for the fact he lied before the fight.
Posted: 14 May 2004, 12:18
by TheRiverCityHippy
after the second collins fight didn`t he waltz over to the ring announcer and take the microphone and then on one knee ask his girlfriend to marry him?
then the next day in the papers didn`t he say he didn`t know what he was saying because he had took too many shots?
i`m sure something like that happened but i could be mixing him up with someone else.
it was bizarre who ever it was.
Posted: 14 May 2004, 12:23
by stujones
headhunter wrote:after the second collins fight didn`t he waltz over to the ring announcer and take the microphone and then on one knee ask his girlfriend to marry him?
then the next day in the papers didn`t he say he didn`t know what he was saying because he had took too many shots?
i`m sure something like that happened but i could be mixing him up with someone else.
it was bizarre who ever it was.
Benn did do that, but I thought it was out of desperation for the crowd to stop booing him. It was his second big retirement speech and I think his fans were frustrated with his performance.
Re: Jones on why Jones/Benn never happened
Posted: 14 May 2004, 12:28
by KOJOE90
stujones wrote:KOJOE90 wrote:stujones wrote:
I lost a bit of respect for Nigel after he quit vs Collins (the 2nd time). He heart wasn't in the game when he said his fire was back. I'm sure he would have fought anyone if the money was write - but his perception of the right money was too high to make the promoters any profit. Infact, they would be in debt.
I felt more dissappointed than any lose of respect with Benn against Collins to be honest. I've always felt that underneath all the fighting talk etc Benn is a
very sensitive person and after the McClellen fight the fire had indeed slowly burnt out.
Benn is still in my opinion one of our most exciting fighters and one of my personal favourites. Oh how I miss the Benn fights.
Oh yeah, my loss of opinion wasn't for the fact he quit, but for the fact he lied before the fight.
Understood mate.
Posted: 14 May 2004, 12:32
by KOJOE90
stujones wrote:headhunter wrote:after the second collins fight didn`t he waltz over to the ring announcer and take the microphone and then on one knee ask his girlfriend to marry him?
then the next day in the papers didn`t he say he didn`t know what he was saying because he had took too many shots?
i`m sure something like that happened but i could be mixing him up with someone else.
it was bizarre who ever it was.
Benn did do that, but I thought it was out of desperation for the crowd to stop booing him. It was his second big retirement speech and I think his fans were frustrated with his performance.
I also felt that as he was also feeling so emotional amd rejected by the crowd he wanted his girlfriend to validate/help his feelings of self worth by agreeing to marry him. Basically Benn wanted to numb the pain of defeat and rejection of the crowd by feeling the love from the woman he loved so very deeply. Totally understandable really.
Posted: 14 May 2004, 12:34
by stujones
Nigel was interviewed on a channel 5 show years ago. He claimed that his corner pulled him out of the Collins fight because they knew there were some scarring on his brain following the McClellan fight and any punch could put him in trouble.
Nigel said if he knew this was the case then he would have retired before that, my question is is how did the coaches know and not Nigel and why the F didn't they tell him!!
Also, what about this damage when he seemed to be seriously considering a comeback about 3/4 years ago.