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The Klitschkos have dominated for years as 'Super Heavyweights' at 6'6 & 6'7

The most realistic champions coming through are Tyson Fury, Deontay Wilder, Hughie Fury, Anthony Joshua ...even David Price.

All these guys are 6'6+

Will we ever see a Tyson, Frazier or even a Bruno dominating the world scene at 5-10 - 6'2?

I don't think so to be honest ...

Well we will have by June as both Bermane Stiverne and Chris Arreola are under 6'6"

There'll be fewer & fewer under that height or 250 pounds. Just as the average heavy was under 200 pounds prior to the Ali era.

They really should raise the cruiser limit to 100kg - which is 220 pounds. Have the top weight 100kg+ the bottom one 50kg & below & eight others in between. Ten weights total.

It won't ever happen but I can dream about it.

Old bones Ian wrote:Well we will have by June as both Bermane Stiverne and Chris Arreola are under 6'6"

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Final round wrote:

Old bones Ian wrote:Well we will have by June as both Bermane Stiverne and Chris Arreola are under 6'6"

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Discussion over

How tall is A force?

forcefraser wrote:How tall is A force?

About 6'6".

Has been listed around 6'4" ... but he's definitely taller than that.

Today's equivalent to 5ft11 is about 6ft3/4. Chisora and Haye would've been big heavies back in the day...

Max - do you think those are the most realistic champions.

I still think when Klitchsko retires Povetkin is the most likely champion.

I wouldn't rule Adamek from beating those guys also.

danconnollyeire wrote:Today's equivalent to 5ft11 is about 6ft3/4. Chisora and Haye would've been big heavies back in the day...

Yeah, it's funny to think that Foreman was considered so physically imposing in his day but in his fight with Ruiz, Haye was pretty much identical in size to the Foreman that went in against Ali.

Foreman 6ft 3.5, 220lbs
Haye 6ft 3, 222lbs

forcefraser wrote:How tall is A force?

Outside the ring - about 6'6" as mentioned previously

Inside the ring - The height of a Size 17 shoe

(I love A-Force really)

We're in a dire heavyweight slump but ultimately both Klitschkos have been stopped by classic sized heavyweights of around the 6ft mark. Fat and mediocre as they are, Stiverne and Arreola would both whack Fury, Wilder, Fury Jnr and Joshua, and slap around Helenius afterwards for fistic giggles.

An interesting question - it looks unlikely when you look at the names listed, however there might be another Mike Tyson out there somewhere who is 5' 10" (Tyson at his peak aged 20-22 would have smashed any of these giants, and there is no reason why this can't happen again).

For me, an ideal heavyweight would be about 6' 2" and 15 and a half stone.

When you get above say 6' 3" they seem to lose their mobility and athleticism and are not as good to watch.

Shirow wrote:

danconnollyeire wrote:Today's equivalent to 5ft11 is about 6ft3/4. Chisora and Haye would've been big heavies back in the day...

Yeah, it's funny to think that Foreman was considered so physically imposing in his day but in his fight with Ruiz, Haye was pretty much identical in size to the Foreman that went in against Ali.

Foreman 6ft 3.5, 220lbs
Haye 6ft 3, 222lbs

Is Foreman only 6'3.5? And Haye is 6'3, are you sure?

Tuan_Jim wrote:We're in a dire heavyweight slump but ultimately both Klitschkos have been stopped by classic sized heavyweights of around the 6ft mark. Fat and mediocre as they are, Stiverne and Arreola would both whack Fury, Wilder, Fury Jnr and Joshua, and slap around Helenius afterwards for fistic giggles.

Sanders was 6'4, Purity 6'3 and Brewster 6'2.

bripez wrote:An interesting question - it looks unlikely when you look at the names listed, however there might be another Mike Tyson out there somewhere who is 5' 10" (Tyson at his peak aged 20-22 would have smashed any of these giants, and there is no reason why this can't happen again).

For me, an ideal heavyweight would be about 6' 2" and 15 and a half stone.

When you get above say 6' 3" they seem to lose their mobility and athleticism and are not as good to watch.

Mike Perez is about as close to that we have today, I know he looked poor in his last fight but that fight happened too soon after what happened before He has great skill and a good chin I just hope he can stay dedicated.

columbo wrote: Sanders was 6'4, Purity 6'3 and Brewster 6'2.

Exactly. Brewster 6'2'', classic size. That's who I was referring to. Too heavy though. Sam Peter 6'1'', had he bothered to get in anything approaching condition would have wasted Wlad in 2005.

As far as Sanders goes, a tall fellow, but a guy who even boxing at 215lb around 1990 still looked soft.

All modern heavyweights are overweight. Imagine the activity of a Mike Perez if he was training like Mike Tyson or Joe Frazier. A nightmarish proposition.

There is no reason why not. You don't have to be big to beat the big guys, you just have to be fit and know how to fight small.

Shirow wrote:

danconnollyeire wrote:Today's equivalent to 5ft11 is about 6ft3/4. Chisora and Haye would've been big heavies back in the day...

Yeah, it's funny to think that Foreman was considered so physically imposing in his day but in his fight with Ruiz, Haye was pretty much identical in size to the Foreman that went in against Ali.

Foreman 6ft 3.5, 220lbs
Haye 6ft 3, 222lbs

Doesn't paint a complete picture. Foreman was a 250lb behemoth melted down to 220. Haye is a 190 man who has weightlifted and eaten his way to 220.

James Toney has outweighed the likes of Ken Norton, Mike Weaver, Frank Bruno. Was he stronger than them?

Yes, there will be many heavyweight world champions under 6' 6" in the future.

Lewis was only 6' 5". Most of the current top heavyweights are under 6' 6".

Over - W. Klitschko, Fury, Helenius, Wilder, Ustinov & Price.
Under - Pulev, Chisora, Povetkin, Adamek, Thompson, Stiverne and pretty much every other top 50 contender.

Taansend wrote:There'll be fewer & fewer under that height or 250 pounds. Just as the average heavy was under 200 pounds prior to the Ali era.

Even the 6' 5" - 6' 8" HWs have weighed less than 250lbs when in shape.

Tuan_Jim wrote:

Shirow wrote:

danconnollyeire wrote:Today's equivalent to 5ft11 is about 6ft3/4. Chisora and Haye would've been big heavies back in the day...

Yeah, it's funny to think that Foreman was considered so physically imposing in his day but in his fight with Ruiz, Haye was pretty much identical in size to the Foreman that went in against Ali.

Foreman 6ft 3.5, 220lbs
Haye 6ft 3, 222lbs

Doesn't paint a complete picture. Foreman was a 250lb behemoth melted down to 220. Haye is a 190 man who has weightlifted and eaten his way to 220.

James Toney has outweighed the likes of Ken Norton, Mike Weaver, Frank Bruno. Was he stronger than them?

James Toney was much shorter and fatter so that doesn't work. Foreman & Haye were comparable in height, weight and body fat percentage. Not necessarily build and frame though.

So what was Foreman actually melting? Muscle or needlessly dehydrating himself? If it was fat then i'd say Haye was trimmer.

Haye's not 6'3". He doesn't want to give his real height for obvious reasons, but I think he'd win a bit more respect from his fans if he did.

about 6"5 and 17 stones seems to be about ideal for a combination of mobility and power above that and mobility and speed seem to suffer -Joshua is about the perfect size I would say.

Grilling Machine wrote:Haye's not 6'3". He doesn't want to give his real height for obvious reasons, but I think he'd win a bit more respect from his fans if he did.

agreed! my thoughts exactly, haye's true height is about about 6'1"... or 6'2" with a swollen toe