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Hi, I was looking and have been saving to relocate over to england or any part of the UK really, i'm not fussy. I've had little amateur experience only going 4-2 but been in and out of gyms for years, currently looking to find a gym and a promoter to take me on. All i'm looking to do really is be as active as possible and was hoping somebody can point me in the right direction? any advice appreciated.

Go and get some more amateur experience buddy

Without any amateur titles or fanbase your going to really struggle mate.

People won't touch you if you can't sell ticket s

Depends on your ambition mate. Do u want to win a british title or b an active journeyman. Steve goodwin puts on massive small hall shows (london) so he may not require u to sell lots of tickets like most other promoters if u want to build a record to get into title mix. If its journeyman role your after their r 2 guys in the midlands errol johnson and jon pegg (both hav some good journeymen who r out everyother week.)

How many tickets do you estimate you could sell to friends and family (be realistic)?

I'd get more amature experience mate, I'm having my 3rd pro in newcastle two weeks time and was a good ticket seller in the ams but it's not easy to sell tickets at £35 a pop a lot of people just won't pay,,,,to pay your opponent is 50 tickets alone - if your kean though give it ago mate yolo!

IrishGuy wrote:Hi, I was looking and have been saving to relocate over to england or any part of the UK really, i'm not fussy. I've had little amateur experience only going 4-2 but been in and out of gyms for years, currently looking to find a gym and a promoter to take me on. All i'm looking to do really is be as active as possible and was hoping somebody can point me in the right direction? any advice appreciated.

You are going about it all wrong my friend. Have a couple of years in the amateurs and see how you get on there. It's essential grounding.

Coming over to England sounds like a good plan because there is a more active scene over here but its not a good idea normally. What have you got to offer? Why would a promoter sign you? How many tickets would you be able to sell on a show over here? What are you going to do for money?

Amateur experience will answer a lot of those questions and let you know what level you are at and if theres any point in turning pro. Why are you turning pro, whats the goal?

The reason I want to turn pro is i'm 27 now, and the gym I was in has broken up with most fighters haven't left. To get transferred and fight out of another gym I wouldn't be able to fight competitively till the next season starts by which time i'd be 28, I'm just looking to be an active journeyman who goes for it, I prefer the pro style because in the amateurs until i've had 10 fights the format is two 3 minute rounds and I do only be getting warmed up and it's over, I wouldn't be a ticket seller, I don't mind travelling and being the opponent so to speak, thanks for the responses i'm fairly set on going pro though, done with the amateurs.

A journeymen that goes for it to much won't get much work mate. If u pick up to many wins the fights will dry up soon.

As others have said mate, without a "name" and the ability to shift tickets, it will be difficult for anybody to turn pro under those circumstances.

Jon Pegg and Johnny Greaves both post on this site - might be worth contact them directly ?

Also, Damian Ducker and Billy Bessey both run Semi-pro / White collar events and both post on this site - again, might be worth contacting them direct for a chat and advice etc..


Good luck.

I'll deal with that whatever problems come up as they arise, thanks for the headsup. I was looking at the greaves gym in Newark, he seems to get his fighters a lot of fights and I follow him on twitter, seems a good promoter. I'll try contact the two you mentioned maley

Cheers bripez will look into that

I was under the impression without you the ability to sell tickets, it means you have to travel, be the away fighter and take short notice fights. Comfortable with all that, just need someone to say when and where was what I was hoping for, and a gym to train in.

If you turn pro with the BBBof C then there is a lot of expense for brain scans etc. You need to understand what purses you are looking at, what the deductions are and how many fights you would likely have in the first 12 months.

If I was in your position mate this is what I would do.

Why not speak to the semi-pro / white collar people ? - some have regular shows and you might get more bouts in the first year.

I don't know what they pay purse wise but the outgoings are likely to be lower.

If you want to give it a go, then give it 12 months. Spend as much time as you can in the pro / semi-pro gyms and have as many fights as you can get. After a year you will know what your options are.

At least then if your turn "pro" then your record will not be included.

IrishGuy wrote:I'll deal with that whatever problems come up as they arise, thanks for the headsup. I was looking at the greaves gym in Newark, he seems to get his fighters a lot of fights and I follow him on twitter, seems a good promoter. I'll try contact the two you mentioned maley

Cheers bripez will look into that

I was under the impression without you the ability to sell tickets, it means you have to travel, be the away fighter and take short notice fights. Comfortable with all that, just need someone to say when and where was what I was hoping for, and a gym to train in.

you dont necessarily need to move to the UK to become a journeyman. Where in Ireland are you currently based?

bripez wrote:If you turn pro with the BBBof C then there is a lot of expense for brain scans etc. You need to understand what purses you are looking at, what the deductions are and how many fights you would likely have in the first 12 months.

If I was in your position mate this is what I would do.

Why not speak to the semi-pro / white collar people ? - some have regular shows and you might get more bouts in the first year.

I don't know what they pay purse wise but the outgoings are likely to be lower.

If you want to give it a go, then give it 12 months. Spend as much time as you can in the pro / semi-pro gyms and have as many fights as you can get. After a year you will know what your options are.

At least then if your turn "pro" then your record will not be included.

I've been to white collar events, and they always seem to be for people who do a 12 week course or so then fight once. Semi-pro I don't really believe in it, it's either pro or amateur. I could go elsewhere in the world, just englands the closest and appears to have the busiest scene, in Ireland I rarely if ever hear of pro shows going on.

Brendan Ingle's gym in Sheffield would be your best bet.

slapbangwhallop wrote:

IrishGuy wrote:I'll deal with that whatever problems come up as they arise, thanks for the headsup. I was looking at the greaves gym in Newark, he seems to get his fighters a lot of fights and I follow him on twitter, seems a good promoter. I'll try contact the two you mentioned maley

Cheers bripez will look into that

I was under the impression without you the ability to sell tickets, it means you have to travel, be the away fighter and take short notice fights. Comfortable with all that, just need someone to say when and where was what I was hoping for, and a gym to train in.

you dont necessarily need to move to the UK to become a journeyman. Where in Ireland are you currently based?

In wicklow now, there's a different attitude to pro boxing over here. A lot of is stone age I feel where the term "pro" is a big deal that only elite amateurs go for

IrishGuy wrote:I'll deal with that whatever problems come up as they arise, thanks for the headsup. I was looking at the greaves gym in Newark, he seems to get his fighters a lot of fights and I follow him on twitter, seems a good promoter. I'll try contact the two you mentioned maley

Cheers bripez will look into that

I was under the impression without you the ability to sell tickets, it means you have to travel, be the away fighter and take short notice fights. Comfortable with all that, just need someone to say when and where was what I was hoping for, and a gym to train in.

Carl Greaves is a great guy.

Sound him out, see what he says.

But without any footage, you'd be expecting people to take a shot in the dark with you and that rarely occurs.

slapbangwhallop wrote:

IrishGuy wrote:I'll deal with that whatever problems come up as they arise, thanks for the headsup. I was looking at the greaves gym in Newark, he seems to get his fighters a lot of fights and I follow him on twitter, seems a good promoter. I'll try contact the two you mentioned maley

Cheers bripez will look into that

I was under the impression without you the ability to sell tickets, it means you have to travel, be the away fighter and take short notice fights. Comfortable with all that, just need someone to say when and where was what I was hoping for, and a gym to train in.

you dont necessarily need to move to the UK to become a journeyman. Where in Ireland are you currently based?

Lol, do I sense a move being made here ? After Hutchinson left you and you got stitched up by Prospects, thought you would have pissed off back to your website, I guess the green of Ireland suits you, you will whistling in the wind before they give you your cash, what is it one fighter and you get mugged off, what fighter would have faith in you now, don't swim with the sharks, stick to the paddling pool lool.

slapbangwhallop wrote:

IrishGuy wrote:Hi, I was looking and have been saving to relocate over to england or any part of the UK really, i'm not fussy. I've had little amateur experience only going 4-2 but been in and out of gyms for years, currently looking to find a gym and a promoter to take me on. All i'm looking to do really is be as active as possible and was hoping somebody can point me in the right direction? any advice appreciated.

You are going about it all wrong my friend. Have a couple of years in the amateurs and see how you get on there. It's essential grounding.

Coming over to England sounds like a good plan because there is a more active scene over here but its not a good idea normally. What have you got to offer? Why would a promoter sign you? How many tickets would you be able to sell on a show over here? What are you going to do for money?

Amateur experience will answer a lot of those questions and let you know what level you are at and if theres any point in turning pro. Why are you turning pro, whats the goal?

Speaks the voice of experience lol.

Anzi wrote:

slapbangwhallop wrote:

IrishGuy wrote:Hi, I was looking and have been saving to relocate over to england or any part of the UK really, i'm not fussy. I've had little amateur experience only going 4-2 but been in and out of gyms for years, currently looking to find a gym and a promoter to take me on. All i'm looking to do really is be as active as possible and was hoping somebody can point me in the right direction? any advice appreciated.

You are going about it all wrong my friend. Have a couple of years in the amateurs and see how you get on there. It's essential grounding.

Coming over to England sounds like a good plan because there is a more active scene over here but its not a good idea normally. What have you got to offer? Why would a promoter sign you? How many tickets would you be able to sell on a show over here? What are you going to do for money?

Amateur experience will answer a lot of those questions and let you know what level you are at and if theres any point in turning pro. Why are you turning pro, whats the goal?

Speaks the voice of experience lol.

What was the point of that attack?

just help the Original poster mate if you can....just gets personal and silly otherwise

Anzi wrote:Lol, do I sense a move being made here ? After Hutchinson left you and you got stitched up by Prospects, thought you would have pissed off back to your website, I guess the green of Ireland suits you, you will whistling in the wind before they give you your cash, what is it one fighter and you get mugged off, what fighter would have faith in you now, don't swim with the sharks, stick to the paddling pool lool.

You really are embarrassing Naji.

Yeah, complete bunch of scumbags and the pair of them stiched me up. You live and learn and I wasnt prepared to stoop to their level and hope they have a long career together.

Why would a fighter lose faith in me? I built him a profile, got him fights, kept him unbeaten and got him a title fight against an opponent he should have beaten if he was with a trainer with any tactical nouse! I did well for him and look whats happened in his first fight that he wasnt with me.

Hutchinson wasnt my first fighter, wont be my last, and I've a much higher profile boxer than Hutch who will have an Irish title fight before the summer is out.

Good luck!

G0mez wrote:

IrishGuy wrote:I'll deal with that whatever problems come up as they arise, thanks for the headsup. I was looking at the greaves gym in Newark, he seems to get his fighters a lot of fights and I follow him on twitter, seems a good promoter. I'll try contact the two you mentioned maley

Cheers bripez will look into that

I was under the impression without you the ability to sell tickets, it means you have to travel, be the away fighter and take short notice fights. Comfortable with all that, just need someone to say when and where was what I was hoping for, and a gym to train in.

Carl Greaves is a great guy.

Sound him out, see what he says.

But without any footage, you'd be expecting people to take a shot in the dark with you and that rarely occurs.

I've always been impressed with what i've heard from him, seems to work tirelessly. I have footage of my second fight, but I went 0-2 and the perfomance isn't a good representation before winning 4 on the bounce all be it against limited opposition but it's the level I am at currently. I just think for someone who's a grinder and body punches a lot, 6 min fights i'm not going to have much success there, would like to ditch the headguards and have longer fights especually at 27, if I was this driven at 22 or so be happy to stay in the amateurs, would like to fight as often as possible against any opposition I just like to fight

I've been reading these while having to bounce aroud doing other things, so apologies to anyone for anything I didn't answer and thanks for the input this evening should be able to give the thread a better read

IrishGuy wrote:I've been reading these while having to bounce aroud doing other things, so apologies to anyone for anything I didn't answer and thanks for the input this evening should be able to give the thread a better read

Come to Birmingham mate, a big Irish Community here, might help with tickets sales, plus it will help you settle, plenty of gyms about, as long as you avoid certain ones.