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smith v fielding purse bid off.
Posted: 21 Mar 2014, 10:31
by maley1984
20 March 2014 | Area: Head Office
PAUL SMITH (Holder) v ROCKY FIELDING
Due to Rocky Fielding being unable to make Championship weight for the defence of the Commonwealth Boxing Council Super Middleweight Championship, the Board has decided to postpone the above Purse bid due on Wednesday, 9th April 2014.
The Stewards will consider the Championship at their next meeting.
Makes u think doesn't it. Imo just wat hearn and team fielding wanted.
Re: smith v fielding purse bid off.
Posted: 21 Mar 2014, 10:47
by palooka
Fielding can't be that scared of boxing Smith he's raiding the fridge to get out of the division, surely?
Re: smith v fielding purse bid off.
Posted: 21 Mar 2014, 14:24
by Boxerbeetle
Good decision imo. No way does Fielding deserve to be rewarded with a title shot after coming in so heavy last time out.
Re: smith v fielding purse bid off.
Posted: 21 Mar 2014, 14:31
by Horse
Who's going to be made Smith's mandatory challenger now?
Brian Magee? Callum Smith? Frank Buglioni?
Re: smith v fielding purse bid off.
Posted: 21 Mar 2014, 14:45
by Andrew
Horse wrote:Who's going to be made Smith's mandatory challenger now?
Brian Magee? Callum Smith? Frank Buglioni?

Re: smith v fielding purse bid off.
Posted: 21 Mar 2014, 14:54
by tear up
Horse wrote:Who's going to be made Smith's mandatory challenger now?
Brian Magee? Callum Smith? Frank Buglioni?
Magee s a good name I'd like to see smith take him on
Re: smith v fielding purse bid off.
Posted: 21 Mar 2014, 15:08
by Horse
Naandrew wrote:Horse wrote:Who's going to be made Smith's mandatory challenger now?
Brian Magee? Callum Smith? Frank Buglioni?

Why not? He's the English champion, there aren't going to be many ahead of him in the queue to be made mandatory.
Re: smith v fielding purse bid off.
Posted: 21 Mar 2014, 15:20
by JimJim2009
I'm thinking you know they're brothers but are playing along ??!
Re: smith v fielding purse bid off.
Posted: 21 Mar 2014, 15:30
by palooka
Horse plays it straight
Re: smith v fielding purse bid off.
Posted: 21 Mar 2014, 15:32
by DMA1987
JimJim2009 wrote:I'm thinking you know they're brothers but are playing along ??!
Why would that stop him becoming mandatory?
Re: smith v fielding purse bid off.
Posted: 21 Mar 2014, 15:38
by JimJim2009
I wouldn't have thought they'd fight each other, and I wouldn't have thought the board would bother making Callum a mandatory to his own brother.
Re: smith v fielding purse bid off.
Posted: 21 Mar 2014, 16:11
by Horse
JimJim2009 wrote:I wouldn't have thought they'd fight each other, and I wouldn't have thought the board would bother making Callum a mandatory to his own brother.
Who else is there?
Froch, Groves and DeGale are above that level. Anderson's been inactive for 17 months and is banned. Magee's been inactive for over 15 months and Buglioni and the rest are less deserving than Callum.
I don't see why Callum Smith shouldn't be made mandatory challenger.
Reinstating Fielding as the mandatory probably makes the most sense out of all the options.
Re: smith v fielding purse bid off.
Posted: 21 Mar 2014, 16:14
by lefty
Horse wrote:JimJim2009 wrote:I wouldn't have thought they'd fight each other, and I wouldn't have thought the board would bother making Callum a mandatory to his own brother.
Who else is there?
Froch, Groves and DeGale are above that level. Anderson's been inactive for 17 months and is banned. Magee's been inactive for over 15 months and Buglioni and the rest are less deserving than Callum.
I don't see why Callum Smith shouldn't be made mandatory challenger.
Reinstating Fielding as the mandatory probably makes the most sense out of all the options.
Paul would vacate if his brother was made mandatory. I'm with you though, they should reinstate Fielding as he's the most worthy out of the rest.
Re: smith v fielding purse bid off.
Posted: 21 Mar 2014, 16:17
by Horse
columbo wrote:Paul would vacate if his brother was made mandatory.
Or Callum would turn down the shot.
columbo wrote:I'm with you though, they should reinstate Fielding as he's the most worthy out of the rest.
It's not ideal, but given the situation Fielding is still the strongest candidate.
Re: smith v fielding purse bid off.
Posted: 21 Mar 2014, 16:50
by JimJim2009
On a related note.... if a Smith is to fight King Arthur later this year, I would give Callum more chance of winning than Paul
Re: smith v fielding purse bid off.
Posted: 21 Mar 2014, 17:08
by brian13
Magee / Smith is a very good fight but how possible would it be for Smith to get an eliminator for Abraham.
Re: smith v fielding purse bid off.
Posted: 21 Mar 2014, 18:14
by expe
Horse wrote:JimJim2009 wrote:I wouldn't have thought they'd fight each other, and I wouldn't have thought the board would bother making Callum a mandatory to his own brother.
Who else is there?
Froch, Groves and DeGale are above that level. Anderson's been inactive for 17 months and is banned. Magee's been inactive for over 15 months and Buglioni and the rest are less deserving than Callum.
I don't see why Callum Smith shouldn't be made mandatory challenger.
Reinstating Fielding as the mandatory probably makes the most sense out of all the options.
Why make someone mandatory, who has no interest in the position and neither champion nor challenger would ever take the fight? Magee has always shown himself to be a level above domestic level, in fact Tsypko is the only fighter he's lost to who you wouldn't say was world class at the time, if he still wants to fight, then fighting Smith for the British title would be a good way to come back. In no circumstances should Fielding be reinstated, he was a light heavyweight for his last fight, until he proves he can make 12st, he should be considered as such.
Re: smith v fielding purse bid off.
Posted: 21 Mar 2014, 19:32
by Horse
expe wrote:Why make someone mandatory, who has no interest in the position and neither champion nor challenger would ever take the fight? Magee has always shown himself to be a level above domestic level, in fact Tsypko is the only fighter he's lost to who you wouldn't say was world class at the time, if he still wants to fight, then fighting Smith for the British title would be a good way to come back. In no circumstances should Fielding be reinstated, he was a light heavyweight for his last fight, until he proves he can make 12st, he should be considered as such.
Would the Board make Magee the mandatory after over a year of inactivity though?
I'd prefer Fielding stay as mandatory if the board don't have anyone else lined up. Someone needs to be the mandatory challenger.
Smith shouldn't be allowed to have an easy voluntary defence.
Re: smith v fielding purse bid off.
Posted: 21 Mar 2014, 19:56
by ttornado
Horse wrote:
I'd prefer Fielding stay as mandatory if the board don't have anyone else lined up.
After not even trying to make weight it shouldn't be Fielding as mandatory.
Why not Buglioni?
Re: smith v fielding purse bid off.
Posted: 21 Mar 2014, 20:30
by expe
Horse wrote:expe wrote:Why make someone mandatory, who has no interest in the position and neither champion nor challenger would ever take the fight? Magee has always shown himself to be a level above domestic level, in fact Tsypko is the only fighter he's lost to who you wouldn't say was world class at the time, if he still wants to fight, then fighting Smith for the British title would be a good way to come back. In no circumstances should Fielding be reinstated, he was a light heavyweight for his last fight, until he proves he can make 12st, he should be considered as such.
Would the Board make Magee the mandatory after over a year of inactivity though?
I'd prefer Fielding stay as mandatory if the board don't have anyone else lined up. Someone needs to be the mandatory challenger.
Smith shouldn't be allowed to have an easy voluntary defence.
Magee was banned for 6 months and has spent the last few years fighting at a level far higher than the British title. Fielding is now a Light Heavyweight, so he can't be mandatory. What's wrong with Smith having a voluntary? If he wins a voluntary he takes the belt outright, they turned down Tobias Webb, but for him to win the belt outright, which he has every right to want to do, he needs one defence, the only opponent that's deserving of a shot and would take the fight right now is Brian Magee. Froch, Groves and DeGale are at or close to world level, Callum would never fight him, Fielding has in effect moved up in weight, Buglioni's going down the international route and they wouldn't risk him fighting Smith right now, he's beaten Dodson twice, Blackledge was sparked by Fielding, the board wouldn't sanction Webb and I doubt they would sanction Kelvin Young or Lee Markham either.
Re: smith v fielding purse bid off.
Posted: 22 Mar 2014, 06:16
by Horse
expe wrote:Magee was banned for 6 months and has spent the last few years fighting at a level far higher than the British title. Fielding is now a Light Heavyweight, so he can't be mandatory.
Yes he can be the mandatory. Smith was 175lbs in his fight before fighting for the British title, it happens all of the time.
expe wrote:What's wrong with Smith having a voluntary? If he wins a voluntary he takes the belt outright, they turned down Tobias Webb, but for him to win the belt outright, which he has every right to want to do, he needs one defence, the only opponent that's deserving of a shot and would take the fight right now is Brian Magee. Froch, Groves and DeGale are at or close to world level, Callum would never fight him, Fielding has in effect moved up in weight, Buglioni's going down the international route and they wouldn't risk him fighting Smith right now, he's beaten Dodson twice, Blackledge was sparked by Fielding, the board wouldn't sanction Webb and I doubt they would sanction Kelvin Young or Lee Markham either.
Smith does not deserve to win the belt outright by beating a weak opponent.
Smith's British title wins: Quigley, Dodson & Dodson.
Very weak wins for a British champion. It is degrading to the Lonsdale belt to allow Smith to win it outright without beating anyone solid.
Fielding should be reinstated unless Magee is made mandatory.
Re: smith v fielding purse bid off.
Posted: 22 Mar 2014, 06:23
by Sklar
Have the Smiths ever stated they won't fight each other?
Re: smith v fielding purse bid off.
Posted: 22 Mar 2014, 06:26
by ShadrachSimmo
brian13 wrote:Magee / Smith is a very good fight but how possible would it be for Smith to get an eliminator for Abraham.
It's a reasonable match. Wouldn't mind seeing it.
Re: smith v fielding purse bid off.
Posted: 22 Mar 2014, 07:30
by maley1984
Sklar wrote:Have the Smiths ever stated they won't fight each other?
Yeah saw paul say numerous times he wud vacate if callum was his mandatory.
Re: smith v fielding purse bid off.
Posted: 22 Mar 2014, 08:59
by brian13
Sklar wrote:Have the Smiths ever stated they won't fight each other?
Yes and Paul has also said that going out to fight after Stephen lost to Selby was such a horrible feeling. Imagine how he would feel going out to fight his own brother.
Also, they both share the same trainer. Fight has absolutely no chance of happening.