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British Top 30 P4P April 2014
Posted: 31 Mar 2014, 20:00
by Horse
1. (1.) Carl Froch
2. (2.) Martin Murray
3. (4.) George Groves
4. (5.) Amir Khan
5. (6.) Tyson Fury
6. (8.) Ola Afolabi
7. (3.) Ricky Burns
8. (9.) Kell Brook
9. (10.) Carl Frampton
10. (11.) Dereck Chisora
11. (16.) James DeGale
12. (12.) Jamie McDonnell
13. (17.) Tony Bellew
14. (19.) Lee Haskins
15. (13.) Scott Quigg
16. (14.) Lee Selby
17. (15.) Matthew Macklin
18. (21.) Frankie Gavin
19. (30.) Kid Galahad
20. (18.) Nathan Cleverly
21. (20.) Stuart Hall
22. (22.) Brian Rose
23. (23.) Billy Joe Saunders
24. (24.) Anthony Crolla
25. (25.) Enzo Maccarinelli
26. (26.) Stephen Smith
27. (27.) Gavin Rees
28. (NE.) Jon-Lewis Dickinson
29. (NE.) Paul Butler
30. (28.) Curtis Woodhouse
Out - (7.) Darren Barker
Out - (29.) Andy Lee (Irish)
Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2014
Posted: 31 Mar 2014, 20:00
by Horse
Any comments/criticisms of the British Top 30 P4P list are very welcome.
Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2014
Posted: 01 Apr 2014, 02:05
by forcefraser
Martin Murray at nr 2 is a bit dodgy in my eyes.
Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2014
Posted: 01 Apr 2014, 02:15
by jessi
Swop fury with Frampton
Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2014
Posted: 01 Apr 2014, 02:50
by BAP1
Not a bad list
My definition of P4P is who would beat who if they were at the same weight I'd have james DeGale and frankie Gavin higher. However some of the guys on this list simply hasn't fought high level opponents
Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2014
Posted: 01 Apr 2014, 03:30
by Pugilist-specialist
forcefraser wrote:Martin Murray at nr 2 is a bit dodgy in my eyes.
Sky have him at the same position but they've got Quigg 12 places higher.
http://www1.skysports.com/boxing/news/1 ... p-rankings
Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2014
Posted: 01 Apr 2014, 06:58
by Horse
forcefraser wrote:Martin Murray at nr 2 is a bit dodgy in my eyes.
He arguably beat Martinez less than a year ago. His place is deserved.
Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2014
Posted: 01 Apr 2014, 07:00
by Horse
jessi wrote:Swop fury with Frampton
Fury should not be below Brook.
Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2014
Posted: 01 Apr 2014, 07:01
by Horse
BAP1 wrote:Not a bad list
My definition of P4P is who would beat who if they were at the same weight I'd have james DeGale and frankie Gavin higher. However some of the guys on this list simply hasn't fought high level opponents
Who should replace them?
Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2014
Posted: 01 Apr 2014, 09:33
by Pugilist-specialist
Galahad is European champ and should be above Gavin.
Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2014
Posted: 01 Apr 2014, 09:55
by Crazyboy
Pugilist-specialist wrote:Galahad is European champ and should be above Gavin.
despite the politics hall should be above cleverley as well
Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2014
Posted: 01 Apr 2014, 10:55
by palooka
Has Andy Lee just become Irish?
Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2014
Posted: 01 Apr 2014, 11:21
by Ian1973
Kevin Mitchell will soon be fighting for a world title, he is entitled to be in that list somewhere surely?
Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2014
Posted: 01 Apr 2014, 13:32
by JamieM
No what I can't stand about these rankings? Soon as someone gets beat your drastically drop them in the rankings, for example Ricky burns dropping from 3 to 8 while afolabi rises despite having not fought since your last rankings! Ricky gt beat from a genuine world class fighter who for me will make world p4p rankings. Ricky is also in a better position than most you have above them and will fight for a
World title proberly before the year is out!!
Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2014
Posted: 01 Apr 2014, 13:44
by Horse
Pugilist-specialist wrote:Galahad is European champ and should be above Gavin.
Prado isn't very good though. Gavin has a better record than Galahad.
Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2014
Posted: 01 Apr 2014, 13:47
by Horse
Crazyboy wrote:despite the politics hall should be above cleverley as well
Hall would have overtaken Cleverly if he beat Ward, but it was a TD so he didn't.
Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2014
Posted: 01 Apr 2014, 13:47
by Horse
palooka wrote:Has Andy Lee just become Irish?
No.
Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2014
Posted: 01 Apr 2014, 13:51
by palooka
Horse wrote:palooka wrote:Has Andy Lee just become Irish?
No.
Then why was he ranked before?
Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2014
Posted: 01 Apr 2014, 14:09
by Horse
Ian1973 wrote:Kevin Mitchell will soon be fighting for a world title, he is entitled to be in that list somewhere surely?
No, Mitchell has not beaten anyone except bums since Burns destroyed him. Mitchell does not deserve a world title shot.
Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2014
Posted: 01 Apr 2014, 14:12
by expe
Pugilist-specialist wrote:Galahad is European champ and should be above Gavin.
Give over, Galahad beat a Spanish binman, he's moved up way too far as it is, Cleverly, Hall, Rose, Saunders, Crolla, Maccarinelli, Smith, Dickinson and Butler should all be above him.
Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2014
Posted: 01 Apr 2014, 14:12
by Horse
JamieM wrote:No what I can't stand about these rankings? Soon as someone gets beat your drastically drop them in the rankings, for example Ricky burns dropping from 3 to 8 while afolabi rises despite having not fought since your last rankings! Ricky gt beat from a genuine world class fighter who for me will make world p4p rankings. Ricky is also in a better position than most you have above them and will fight for a
World title proberly before the year is out!!
Burns has been awful recently.
Crawford is nothing special and Burns let him take his title without putting up a proper fight.
Burns needs to sort his head out, his performance against Crawford was pathetic.
Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2014
Posted: 01 Apr 2014, 14:13
by palooka
Burns will be better for knowing his jaw held up for 12 rounds.
Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2014
Posted: 01 Apr 2014, 14:17
by JamieM
Crawford isn't world class? Don't be silly the guy fought within himself at burns he's a talented guy, so burns is ranked above afolabi and looses a
World title fight and during that time afolabi had been inactive yet afolabi moves above him, how do you do you work them put? Pick them out a hat? Martin Murray is ranked number 2 yet he lost a world title And was brutal in his last fight, just saying:p
Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2014
Posted: 01 Apr 2014, 14:20
by palooka
That's a fair comment I think, Murray did look awful last time and if he were ranked on that he wouldn't be in the top 30. You can't rank the boxer based on their best ever performance (can you), what about their most recent?
Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2014
Posted: 01 Apr 2014, 14:23
by lefty
Horse wrote:forcefraser wrote:Martin Murray at nr 2 is a bit dodgy in my eyes.
He arguably beat Martinez less than a year ago. His place is deserved.
He didnt know on paper which is what matters in those rankings and also Martinez is on the slide.