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Kevin Evans comes out of retirement at the age of 38

Posted: 04 Apr 2014, 11:58
by Michael bennt
And wins the welsh national title! Commonwealth games next?

Re: Kevin Evans comes out of retirement at the age of 38

Posted: 04 Apr 2014, 12:05
by bripez
Michael bennt wrote:And wins the welsh national title! Commonwealth games next?
What are the age restrictions ?

I thought that over the age of 34 you could only box other boxers who are also over the age of 34 - the "masters" division never took off.

I am sure in England that this is the case and a boxer over 34 cannot enter the ABA's etc. - not sure if it is different in Wales ?

Re: Kevin Evans comes out of retirement at the age of 38

Posted: 04 Apr 2014, 12:27
by Michael bennt
bripez wrote:
Michael bennt wrote:And wins the welsh national title! Commonwealth games next?
What are the age restrictions ?

I thought that over the age of 34 you could only box other boxers who are also over the age of 34 - the "masters" division never took off.

I am sure in England that this is the case and a boxer over 34 cannot enter the ABA's etc. - not sure if it is different in Wales ?
The aba have changed it now I think you can box til you are 42, evans won the proper national title no masters title and there are now calls for him to be sent the commonwealth games

Re: Kevin Evans comes out of retirement at the age of 38

Posted: 04 Apr 2014, 12:31
by lefty
Good luck to the guy :TU:

Re: Kevin Evans comes out of retirement at the age of 38

Posted: 04 Apr 2014, 14:18
by Coco
Kev is 34

Re: Kevin Evans comes out of retirement at the age of 38

Posted: 04 Apr 2014, 20:19
by Michael bennt
Coco wrote:Kev is 34
He is no younger than 37 I read a few articles saying 37 some saying 38

Re: Kevin Evans comes out of retirement at the age of 38

Posted: 04 Apr 2014, 23:02
by Coco
Michael bennt wrote:
Coco wrote:Kev is 34
He is no younger than 37 I read a few articles saying 37 some saying 38
He is my mate, I know how old he is

Re: Kevin Evans comes out of retirement at the age of 38

Posted: 05 Apr 2014, 00:28
by Michael bennt
Well why is it saying in interviews and in newspapers here is 37or 38, he is not 34 I don't care if u say he is your mate am sticking to what I have read up on him he is at least 37 or 38

Re: Kevin Evans comes out of retirement at the age of 38

Posted: 05 Apr 2014, 00:32
by crusader
Maybe those sources are wrong? Do you believe everything you read?

Re: Kevin Evans comes out of retirement at the age of 38

Posted: 05 Apr 2014, 00:44
by Michael bennt
crusader wrote:Maybe those sources are wrong? Do you believe everything you read?
No but u read several interviews with the man himself and he claims he is 37 so I believe i them

Re: Kevin Evans comes out of retirement at the age of 38

Posted: 05 Apr 2014, 03:48
by mickey1975
Well I believe Coco. He is a respected Welsh ex pro and an intelligent man. I'll take his word for it.

Re: Kevin Evans comes out of retirement at the age of 38

Posted: 05 Apr 2014, 06:21
by bripez
A 2minute google search brings up a number of articles from the last Commonwealth games from 4 years ago - Sky Sports, the Daily Mail and Wales online etc - and they all have his age as being 34 and that was 4 years ago.

I am not the best at maths but .........

Funny how he has always been 34 which coincidentally is the upper age limit for competing.

I may be wrong, but doesn't he also come from a community that isn't big on paperwork like birth certificates etc. so this is difficult to prove _ not to mention that these days anybody asking the question will be accused of being racist or something.

Re: Kevin Evans comes out of retirement at the age of 38

Posted: 05 Apr 2014, 06:25
by mickey1975
bripez wrote:A 2minute google search brings up a number of articles from the last Commonwealth games from 4 years ago - Sky Sports, the Daily Mail and Wales online etc - and they all have his age as being 34 and that was 4 years ago.

I am not the best at maths but .........

Funny how he has always been 34 which coincidentally is the upper age limit for competing.

I may be wrong, but doesn't he also come from a community that isn't big on paperwork like birth certificates etc. so this is difficult to prove _ not to mention that these days anybody asking the question will be accused of being racist or something.
The Welsh use birth certificates, etc don't they?

Re: Kevin Evans comes out of retirement at the age of 38

Posted: 05 Apr 2014, 07:09
by blackbenson
hes 38 and won the welsh elite championships. but against novice opposition wether he will be able to compete at the top level again is very doubtful but all the best to him if he goes i hope he medals

Re: Kevin Evans comes out of retirement at the age of 38

Posted: 05 Apr 2014, 12:43
by Michael bennt
blackbenson wrote:hes 38 and won the welsh elite championships. but against novice opposition wether he will be able to compete at the top level again is very doubtful but all the best to him if he goes i hope he medals
Will they abia allow him to compete in the commonwealth games at 38? Or is there a ruling against it

Re: Kevin Evans comes out of retirement at the age of 38

Posted: 05 Apr 2014, 15:51
by expe
Michael bennt wrote:
blackbenson wrote:hes 38 and won the welsh elite championships. but against novice opposition wether he will be able to compete at the top level again is very doubtful but all the best to him if he goes i hope he medals
Will they abia allow him to compete in the commonwealth games at 38? Or is there a ruling against it
Don't think it would be down to the ABA, the Welsh ABA control the selection, but the tournament is presumably organised by some sort of Commonwealth body, or the AIBA.

Re: Kevin Evans comes out of retirement at the age of 38

Posted: 05 Apr 2014, 18:51
by bigped
Michael bennt wrote:
blackbenson wrote:hes 38 and won the welsh elite championships. but against novice opposition wether he will be able to compete at the top level again is very doubtful but all the best to him if he goes i hope he medals
Will they abia allow him to compete in the commonwealth games at 38? Or is there a ruling against it

there no ruling against it your a elite boxer now from 19-40 as far as am aware

Re: Kevin Evans comes out of retirement at the age of 38

Posted: 05 Apr 2014, 19:36
by Michael bennt
bigped wrote:
Michael bennt wrote:
blackbenson wrote:hes 38 and won the welsh elite championships. but against novice opposition wether he will be able to compete at the top level again is very doubtful but all the best to him if he goes i hope he medals
Will they abia allow him to compete in the commonwealth games at 38? Or is there a ruling against it

there no ruling against it your a elite boxer now from 19-40 as far as am aware
Do you think Evans will get selected then? Surely he at least deserves a box of for the right to go

Re: Kevin Evans comes out of retirement at the age of 38

Posted: 05 Apr 2014, 20:03
by Coco
His date of birth is 17th September 1979, first won a commonwealth medal in 1998 aged 18, medaled again in 2002 and 2006, competed in 2010 but was injured and will compete again in 2014

Re: Kevin Evans comes out of retirement at the age of 38

Posted: 05 Apr 2014, 20:55
by Coco
bripez wrote:A 2minute google search brings up a number of articles from the last Commonwealth games from 4 years ago - Sky Sports, the Daily Mail and Wales online etc - and they all have his age as being 34 and that was 4 years ago.

I am not the best at maths but .........

Funny how he has always been 34 which coincidentally is the upper age limit for competing.

I may be wrong, but doesn't he also come from a community that isn't big on paperwork like birth certificates etc. so this is difficult to prove _ not to mention that these days anybody asking the question will be accused of being racist or something.
He isn't a traveller

Re: Kevin Evans comes out of retirement at the age of 38

Posted: 06 Apr 2014, 04:12
by SMALL AXE1
mickey1975 wrote:Well I believe Coco. He is a respected Welsh ex pro and an intelligent man. I'll take his word for it.
Exactly.

Re: Kevin Evans comes out of retirement at the age of 38

Posted: 06 Apr 2014, 05:22
by gobbles
According to the AIBA database, his date of birth is 17/09/1976.

So, unless he lied on his forms when he first boxed, that makes him 37

Re: Kevin Evans comes out of retirement at the age of 38

Posted: 09 Apr 2014, 06:10
by Coco
He didn't get selected, the Welsh ABA in their wisdom have decided not to send a full squad, in fact the super heavy division is the only division not being represented

Re: Kevin Evans comes out of retirement at the age of 38

Posted: 09 Apr 2014, 06:55
by stujones
Coco wrote:He didn't get selected, the Welsh ABA in their wisdom have decided not to send a full squad, in fact the super heavy division is the only division not being represented

Will he appeal, sure he has almost a right to go there? Surely he has passed the qualifying criteria.

Isn't that a bit like a Dwain Chambers getting the qualifying time and winning the AAA's and then not being selected.

I guess what the WABA are thinking is maybe he hasn't shown the greatest loyality to the sport over the last 3 years domestically and perhaps thought his entry in this years competition was a bit taking the piss over the standard who have been fighting regular and trying to get the spot.

However, if that's the case then sure the WABA could have not allowed him to participate in the first place.

In essence what Kevin has done could be compared to what Ronnie O Sullivan did last year... retire comeback for the big one and then win it with ease. Ronnie's win last year didn't look good for the sport as a whole and the general standard and that must be why the WABA have done a two finger salute. Although, they should have not allowed him entry as this was always a likely scenario given how poor the Welsh Super Heavies are.

Kevin could win that tournament one handed and not trained for the next 10 years - unless someone comes out of the blue with a bit of real talent.

Re: Kevin Evans comes out of retirement at the age of 38

Posted: 09 Apr 2014, 08:49
by bigped
stujones wrote:
Coco wrote:He didn't get selected, the Welsh ABA in their wisdom have decided not to send a full squad, in fact the super heavy division is the only division not being represented

Will he appeal, sure he has almost a right to go there? Surely he has passed the qualifying criteria.

Isn't that a bit like a Dwain Chambers getting the qualifying time and winning the AAA's and then not being selected.

I guess what the WABA are thinking is maybe he hasn't shown the greatest loyality to the sport over the last 3 years domestically and perhaps thought his entry in this years competition was a bit taking the piss over the standard who have been fighting regular and trying to get the spot.

However, if that's the case then sure the WABA could have not allowed him to participate in the first place.

In essence what Kevin has done could be compared to what Ronnie O Sullivan did last year... retire comeback for the big one and then win it with ease. Ronnie's win last year didn't look good for the sport as a whole and the general standard and that must be why the WABA have done a two finger salute. Although, they should have not allowed him entry as this was always a likely scenario given how poor the Welsh Super Heavies are.

Kevin could win that tournament one handed and not trained for the next 10 years - unless someone comes out of the blue with a bit of real talent.

you need to meet the criteria to go to games which included going to camps and training sessions and tounrys abroad ect to gather points as far as am aware