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Ricky Burns v Javier Prieto

Posted: 11 Apr 2014, 10:52
by adam426
Going to be Burn's comeback fight on 27 June at the Braehead Arena. Interview with Alex Morrison about it here http://adamhendersonjournalism.wordpres ... cky-burns/

Is this a good fight for Burns? Personally I think so as I'm not convinced he really gains anything by fighting Crolla or Murray.

Re: Ricky Burns v Javier Prieto

Posted: 11 Apr 2014, 10:58
by whiteboy
fair enough, but how does that sell better than a fight with the winner of Murray/Crolla?!

Re: Ricky Burns v Javier Prieto

Posted: 11 Apr 2014, 11:08
by adam426
whiteboy wrote:fair enough, but how does that sell better than a fight with the winner of Murray/Crolla?!
Where is the appeal to a Scottish audience for that? Doesn't get him closer to a world title and he's already beaten the best English lightweight.

Re: Ricky Burns v Javier Prieto

Posted: 11 Apr 2014, 11:43
by JamieM
Putting the boot into billy too, doesn't read a fight well in the corner? Unreal Ricky doesn't listen well in the Corner, from snippets you heard on the footage Ricky did not listen to a single word

Re: Ricky Burns v Javier Prieto

Posted: 11 Apr 2014, 11:46
by handsofstone
Thats pretty poor from Morrison slating Nelson's reading of fights,considering everything Billy helped Ricky(and Alex) achieve

Re: Ricky Burns v Javier Prieto

Posted: 11 Apr 2014, 11:55
by expe
handsofstone wrote:Thats pretty poor from Morrison slating Nelson's reading of fights,considering everything Billy helped Ricky(and Alex) achieve
Not liking the ideas for new trainers either, Sanigar could be a good option, but I don't see what Sims or Gallagher do for Ricky, apart from a change of scenery.

Re: Ricky Burns v Javier Prieto

Posted: 11 Apr 2014, 11:58
by sgtcecil
Don't know much about the guy but purely based on boxrec, he is coming off a win against mosquiero (former WBA super feather champ). A few ko losses in there as well though.

Does anyone know anything about Prieto and is he a potential banana skin?

Re: Ricky Burns v Javier Prieto

Posted: 11 Apr 2014, 12:05
by Parson Cross
If Warren put Burns in with this opponent there's a lot in here who would slaughter him.

Re: Ricky Burns v Javier Prieto

Posted: 11 Apr 2014, 12:31
by Boxing Prospect
Nothing wrong with Prieto as an opponent. Looking through his record you'll notice many of his losses came when he was fighting at 140+ and a split loss to Ortiz is a genuinely good result...Burns should win but it's not an awful opponent, not great either but after 3 poor performances we can't really expect anyone great.

Re: Ricky Burns v Javier Prieto

Posted: 11 Apr 2014, 13:20
by expe
Parson Cross wrote:If Warren put Burns in with this opponent there's a lot in here who would slaughter him.
The only thing I would be worrying about is how much do they know about him. They had problems with getting footage of Gonzalez and others in the past, the last thing Burns needs is to go into the ring, low on confidence, against an opponent he knows nothing about, apart from standing next to him at the weigh in.

Re: Ricky Burns v Javier Prieto

Posted: 11 Apr 2014, 13:30
by Alba
JamieM wrote:Putting the boot into billy too, doesn't read a fight well in the corner? Unreal Ricky doesn't listen well in the Corner, from snippets you heard on the footage Ricky did not listen to a single word
is he though mate? He is entitled to his opnion and as a fighter manager he will only want what he thinks is best for his fighter and has to be objective.

see you tommorow!

Re: Ricky Burns v Javier Prieto

Posted: 11 Apr 2014, 13:36
by daviddee
Alba wrote:
JamieM wrote:Putting the boot into billy too, doesn't read a fight well in the corner? Unreal Ricky doesn't listen well in the Corner, from snippets you heard on the footage Ricky did not listen to a single word
is he though mate? He is entitled to his opnion and as a fighter manager he will only want what he thinks is best for his fighter and has to be objective.

see you tommorow!
You hear Billy in the corner giving him advice every round then Ricky just ignore it and even argue with Billy.. I might disagree with Billy on things and I also think a change may have been good for them but in honesty Ricky needs to look at himself for his downfalls recently and not Billy... Ricky was wanting to quit against Beltran and Billy kept him going with excellent corner work.. Also in the Gonzales fight.. I think it's a bit rough of Alex IMO

Re: Ricky Burns v Javier Prieto

Posted: 11 Apr 2014, 13:52
by Alba
daviddee wrote:
Alba wrote:
JamieM wrote:Putting the boot into billy too, doesn't read a fight well in the corner? Unreal Ricky doesn't listen well in the Corner, from snippets you heard on the footage Ricky did not listen to a single word
is he though mate? He is entitled to his opnion and as a fighter manager he will only want what he thinks is best for his fighter and has to be objective.

see you tommorow!
You hear Billy in the corner giving him advice every round then Ricky just ignore it and even argue with Billy.. I might disagree with Billy on things and I also think a change may have been good for them but in honesty Ricky needs to look at himself for his downfalls recently and not Billy... Ricky was wanting to quit against Beltran and Billy kept him going with excellent corner work.. Also in the Gonzales fight.. I think it's a bit rough of Alex IMO
aye i have heard it on occasion, but hes not the only fighter to have done it and not the last mate...

Re: Ricky Burns v Javier Prieto

Posted: 11 Apr 2014, 15:05
by rio
Crap fight. 99% of fans would rather see him fight the winner crolla/murray. How anyone thinks priento is a bigger is clueless. Nobody has ever heard of him, and all brit fight sells way better than this fight

Re: Ricky Burns v Javier Prieto

Posted: 11 Apr 2014, 16:44
by Sklar
Is Morrison still on the scene because Burns is scared of him? I don't understand what he brings to the party. He's like a Wegie gangster version of Prince Philip.

Re: Ricky Burns v Javier Prieto

Posted: 11 Apr 2014, 16:46
by lefty
Sklar wrote:Is Morrison still on the scene because Burns is scared of him? I don't understand what he brings to the party. He's like a Wegie gangster version of Prince Philip.
Yeah im surprised nothing happened after all that racist stuff came out.

Re: Ricky Burns v Javier Prieto

Posted: 11 Apr 2014, 17:01
by whiskey
What a bell end, sticking the boot into Nelson now he's out the picture.

Don't worry Billy, we know what your thinking.

Re: Ricky Burns v Javier Prieto

Posted: 11 Apr 2014, 17:36
by JimJim2009
G0mez wrote:What a bell end, sticking the boot into Nelson now he's out the picture.

Don't worry Billy, we know what your thinking.
X2

What a man of honour. According to Fwank, he offered to drop Ricky in the xxxx, in order to save his own skin (the lawsuits from Fwank). Now he's putting the boot into Nelson, with the good old benefit of hindsight. It would be more fitting if he got down on his hands and knees and thanked Billy for the way he turned Ricky from a domestic under-achiever into a world champion. It was that transformation which allowed Morrison to enjoy his ride on the gravy train for the past few years. He's now hoping another trainer will sprinkle magic dust onto Ricky and allow the gravy train to set off again.

Re: Ricky Burns v Javier Prieto

Posted: 11 Apr 2014, 18:04
by JamieM
Over on Eastside Boxing Billy is still acting with dignity and defending Ricky and wanting him to do well and supporting him. Billy is a top guy and even though we have banter etc he deserves more respect from the whole of team burns, Hearn, Morrison and Ricky himself. Billy the cream always rises to the top and I have no doubt you will be training another fighter up from nothing like Ricky to fight at the highest level.

Re: Ricky Burns v Javier Prieto

Posted: 12 Apr 2014, 05:51
by Andrew
JamieM wrote:Over on Eastside Boxing Billy is still acting with dignity and defending Ricky and wanting him to do well and supporting him. Billy is a top guy and even though we have banter etc he deserves more respect from the whole of team burns, Hearn, Morrison and Ricky himself. Billy the cream always rises to the top and I have no doubt you will be training another fighter up from nothing like Ricky to fight at the highest level.
+1 Billy has to take a lot of credit for Burns success and that article IMO was disrespectful.

This Preitos record doesn't look too bad his last win was beating a local fighter in Panama so has won on the road before.

He needs a dominating performance next time out

Re: Ricky Burns v Javier Prieto

Posted: 12 Apr 2014, 06:37
by mickey1975
Is this Lee Gallagher any good? Think it's firmly established Alex is a dickhead now.