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Arturo Gatti
Acelino Freitas
Diego Corrales
Joel Casamayor

KO8Gatti
KO11Freitas
UDCorrales
UDCasamayor

TKO 7 Gatti
TKO 9 Freitas
UD Casamayor
TKO 6 Corrales

Hey vladimir what weight are they boxing at and are both boxers in their primes?

130 pounds)).

Gatti UD win over Nelson
Nelson KO 9 win over Freitas
Nelson UD over Casamayor
Nelson KO 12 over Corrales

palooka wrote:Gatti UD win over Nelson
Nelson KO 9 win over Freitas
Nelson UD over Casamayor
Nelson KO 12 over Corrales

I can't see how Gatti beats the Professor, how does he do it for you, Palooka?

Tomasino wrote:

palooka wrote:Gatti UD win over Nelson
Nelson KO 9 win over Freitas
Nelson UD over Casamayor
Nelson KO 12 over Corrales

I can't see how Gatti beats the Professor, how does he do it for you, Palooka?

I just imagine that at 130lbs and over 12 rounds Gatti would be too busy and powerful, he'd impress the judges a lot and Nelson could be outworked and look for a perfect counter that bit too long. Gatti took some discouraging at that weight and he hit as hard as anyone (even Gomez). It would have been a terrific fight and if I'd won money on it or lost money I'd have enjoyed watching.

Azumah Nelson better boxer and hit harder than Angel Manfredy.He beat Gatti)

He did Vladiimir but the triangulation theory doesn't really work in boxing. There were styles and fighters that Nelson struggled with, there were styles and fighters that Gatti struggled with. Gatti wasn't a push over and Robinson may well have turned a win over Nelson, and Manfredy was no slouch at the time he beat Gatti. The Gatti that beat Ruelas would have given Nelson a big headache.

No way in hell Gatti beats Azumah

No Tomorrow wrote:No way in hell Gatti beats Azumah

Though Calvin Grove pushed him close and Leija drew and won against him? Ruelas really gave Nelson some grief first fight, let's not turn Azumah into a monster - he was fantastic and some styles gave him real problems - he was always better in the rematch.

Gatti at SFW beat Harris Patterson twice and Ruelas. Not sure how that's enough to convince you he beats Azumah. Especially when you have Azumah beating three SFWs much better than Gatti. Gatti can't outbox Azumah, can't out trade him and wouldn't knock him out. Sorry man Gatti would be taking an easy L

FWIW I've got any version of super-feather Azumah doing Gatti late on in a hellacious war-for-the-ages. I don't care how big he was at the weight (clue: fvcking enormous) but no-one who takes that many punches is beating Azumah Nelson at that weight, imo. I'd love to see it though, but it'd be a dismantling.

El Cepillo would have a good chance at upsetting him, from that list. But I certainly wouldn't bet on it. The others are a might too predictable.

Datsue wrote:FWIW I've got any version of super-feather Azumah doing Gatti late on in a hellacious war-for-the-ages. I don't care how big he was at the weight (clue: fvcking enormous) but no-one who takes that many punches is beating Azumah Nelson at that weight, imo. I'd love to see it though, but it'd be a dismantling.

El Cepillo would have a good chance at upsetting him, from that list. But I certainly wouldn't bet on it. The others are a might too predictable.

My thoughts exactly. If the Azumah circa the fenech rematch shows up then Gatti would take a lot of punishment

Maybe Freitas has an outside chance simply because he was such a damaging hitter....but it is a slim chance at best and Nelson would need to be sloppy on the night and would quickly revenge it. Freitas was very decent and he boxed over in the UK a few times.....still find it strange that a huge country like Brazil has produced so few world champions of note. Basically, the brillant Jofre and Freitas.

Fan of all four of them, but I think Nelson beats them. If I had to pick one I think would have the best shot, I'd go with Casamayor.

Gatti would wind up spending twelve rounds looking like he hadn't chosen the right sport, I believe.

Azumah is clearly better than any of them. They have size advantages which could make a difference if they could impose themselves.

palooka wrote:

No Tomorrow wrote:No way in hell Gatti beats Azumah

Though Calvin Grove pushed him close and Leija drew and won against him? Ruelas really gave Nelson some grief first fight, let's not turn Azumah into a monster - he was fantastic and some styles gave him real problems - he was always better in the rematch.

Grove and Leija were both slick; Gatti was nothing of the sort. Gatti's great moments were against, essentially, a journeyman. I wouldn't think The Professor could stop him but he would absolutely win, comfortably.

Vladimir5555 wrote:TKO 7 Gatti
TKO 9 Freitas
UD Casamayor
TKO 6 Corrales

This

He beats all of them... Take your pick on the exact outcome.

SamWise72 wrote:

palooka wrote:

No Tomorrow wrote:No way in hell Gatti beats Azumah

Though Calvin Grove pushed him close and Leija drew and won against him? Ruelas really gave Nelson some grief first fight, let's not turn Azumah into a monster - he was fantastic and some styles gave him real problems - he was always better in the rematch.

Grove and Leija were both slick; Gatti was nothing of the sort. Gatti's great moments were against, essentially, a journeyman. I wouldn't think The Professor could stop him but he would absolutely win, comfortably.

I would pick Nelson over Gatti (and everone else listed here for that matter.

However, Gatti's great moments weren't essentially against a journeyman. Ruelas, Patterson, and Dorin certainly were not journeyman.

palooka wrote:

No Tomorrow wrote:No way in hell Gatti beats Azumah

Though Calvin Grove pushed him close and Leija drew and won against him? Ruelas really gave Nelson some grief first fight, let's not turn Azumah into a monster - he was fantastic and some styles gave him real problems - he was always better in the rematch.

Those fights came as he was aging at the end of his career . No one is remembering Gatti for the Gomez and Baldomir fights.