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Keans next opponent if I was managing him

Posted: 27 Apr 2014, 11:43
by renegadeboxing
Throwing my hat into the ring, if I was managing George today, his next fight would be with lee Edwards,

Re: Keans next opponent if I was managing him

Posted: 27 Apr 2014, 11:58
by 1 nut
You are the uk al Haymon

Re: Keans next opponent if I was managing him

Posted: 27 Apr 2014, 12:01
by billy nelson
1 nut wrote:You are the uk al Haymon
He said managed not coached lol :OhYes: only kidding spencer :doh:

Re: Keans next opponent if I was managing him

Posted: 27 Apr 2014, 12:12
by renegadeboxing
Billy, done my fair share of coaching over the years, and brought through boxers and been told I must be mad matching boxers as I did, we took a tin pot club to England internationals in 4 years, I know for a fact I'd manage him the same way I did as an amataur , he would thrive and come to the boil and have the right step you up opponents,

Re: Keans next opponent if I was managing him

Posted: 27 Apr 2014, 12:14
by renegadeboxing
Journey men are a waste of time for George,,,, live opponents are the way to go! Step him up with fellow /6-8-10 round fighters as he progresses

Re: Keans next opponent if I was managing him

Posted: 27 Apr 2014, 13:55
by billy nelson
renegadeboxing wrote:Billy, done my fair share of coaching over the years, and brought through boxers and been told I must be mad matching boxers as I did, we took a tin pot club to England internationals in 4 years, I know for a fact I'd manage him the same way I did as an amataur , he would thrive and come to the boil and have the right step you up opponents,
To be honest mate I've not seen him box but anyone can have an off night

Re: Keans next opponent if I was managing him

Posted: 27 Apr 2014, 13:55
by renegadeboxing
So, everyone's regrouping, no arguments against?

Re: Keans next opponent if I was managing him

Posted: 27 Apr 2014, 13:58
by renegadeboxing
Sorry billy,reply came up after, go on Hatton tv, archive Kean v lee mould this was 4 years ago, both lads came to fight

Re: Keans next opponent if I was managing him

Posted: 27 Apr 2014, 14:00
by DMA1987
I don't think that many people care. I feel like this dance has been done in another thread.

Re: Keans next opponent if I was managing him

Posted: 27 Apr 2014, 14:20
by renegadeboxing
You could be right ,,,,but, 700 "fans" used to care, and, has his coaching team come out since with a game plan? After all, isn't he with trophy hunter booth?, and his corner man for the fight hasn't mentioned anything on bn,

Re: Keans next opponent if I was managing him

Posted: 27 Apr 2014, 14:23
by DMA1987
Are you hoping he sees this and jumps on board with you?

Re: Keans next opponent if I was managing him

Posted: 27 Apr 2014, 14:32
by renegadeboxing
Not at all,,, I really couldn't care less about pro boxing,, whAt I do care about, is a fighter I care about, being used as a cash cow, instead of nurturing his talent properly, putting him as a fight 2 fights in before the main event, that's career suicide,

Re: Keans next opponent if I was managing him

Posted: 27 Apr 2014, 14:57
by billy nelson
renegadeboxing wrote:Not at all,,, I really couldn't care less about pro boxing,, whAt I do care about, is a fighter I care about, being used as a cash cow, instead of nurturing his talent properly, putting him as a fight 2 fights in before the main event, that's career suicide,
I disagree putting him in two fights before the main event would have been great for his development had he won,if he won fighting in front of all those people he'd have went back to the gym hungry for more hence he'd push himself that little harder in training ect
As I've said it may be an off night give him a chance to regroup

Re: Keans next opponent if I was managing him

Posted: 27 Apr 2014, 15:26
by jonp
So who is Expe ? and who is renegade boxig is it georges ex amatuer coach?

Re: Keans next opponent if I was managing him

Posted: 27 Apr 2014, 15:36
by renegadeboxing
No, not his ex coach, although I did match probably his first 40 odd fights as an amataur , so I would have more of an insight of what makes him tick than most on here, fighting journeymen pads records, and set you back as you start believing the shite your being fed

Re: Keans next opponent if I was managing him

Posted: 27 Apr 2014, 15:37
by expe
jonp wrote:So who is Expe ? and who is renegade boxig is it georges ex amatuer coach?
A lad from Preston who watches boxing and posts on a boxing forum, no idea who renegade is though.

Re: Keans next opponent if I was managing him

Posted: 27 Apr 2014, 15:39
by renegadeboxing
The thing is billy , he did win ;)

Re: Keans next opponent if I was managing him

Posted: 27 Apr 2014, 15:41
by expe
renegadeboxing wrote:Billy, done my fair share of coaching over the years, and brought through boxers and been told I must be mad matching boxers as I did, we took a tin pot club to England internationals in 4 years, I know for a fact I'd manage him the same way I did as an amataur , he would thrive and come to the boil and have the right step you up opponents,
You can't match him like an amateur, lose in the amateurs and you move onto the next fight or tournament. A defeat as a pro has a much bigger impact, loss of support, rankings, less interest from TV and sponsors and if you're not careful, it's easy to turn into a journeyman, winning one fight and losing the next, finishing up with an average record, no meaningful titles and little money to show for it, even if you may be remembered as a tough bastard who took on all comers.

Re: Keans next opponent if I was managing him

Posted: 27 Apr 2014, 16:21
by renegadeboxing
Why not??? He's a 60 fight amataur , should be able to deal with 10 bout pros, if your not able, shouldn't be put on before main event and on bunces every week, rod for your own back!, so, come on expe, out yourself, I'll start, my nAmes eugene

Re: Keans next opponent if I was managing him

Posted: 27 Apr 2014, 16:23
by jonp
Ill join in my names jon

Re: Keans next opponent if I was managing him

Posted: 27 Apr 2014, 16:26
by renegadeboxing
Lovely john, are you 17 and from Preston as well??? Lol the fella could get done for grooming us all!!

Re: Keans next opponent if I was managing him

Posted: 27 Apr 2014, 16:33
by Anzi
expe wrote:
jonp wrote:So who is Expe ? and who is renegade boxig is it georges ex amatuer coach?
A lad from Preston who watches boxing and posts on a boxing forum, no idea who renegade is though.
A cheeky hater from Preston, who would not know talented fighter if it fell on him, maybe one should, it might teach him a bit of respect for brave men, who step in the ring, in fact I would like to get him in my gym, to see if he can walk the walk, because he sure does talk the talk behind a computer screen.

Re: Keans next opponent if I was managing him

Posted: 27 Apr 2014, 16:41
by renegadeboxing
You talking about me anzi? Because I'm in the gym every day, and have been for 28 years, I don't hide behind screens, and have always backed up what I say, and anyone's welcome to come down to my gym and have a debate

Re: Keans next opponent if I was managing him

Posted: 27 Apr 2014, 16:53
by renegadeboxing
Or anzi, or expe, I can come to your gym and have same debate face to face, although, don't think you'd both have the balls to accept , there's 23 hours of tomorrow I'm available, the other hour,,.. I rest!!!

Re: Keans next opponent if I was managing him

Posted: 27 Apr 2014, 17:00
by Anzi
renegadeboxing wrote:You talking about me anzi? Because I'm in the gym every day, and have been for 28 years, I don't hide behind screens, and have always backed up what I say, and anyone's welcome to come down to my gym and have a debate
Expe, not you mate, you are not from Preston are you ? I can't remember having a bad word with, have I ? Mind you everyone as disagreements on here about something, but some are insulting and disrespectful about fighters, which I don't much care for, especially any fighter I train and I have big balls, people who know me will tell you, I don't know how you think my comment relates to you ?