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Remember Johnny Nelson was close 2 signing for a Tyson fight

Posted: 05 May 2014, 08:34
by Michael bennt
He was at ringside calling Tyson out after mike won in Scotland, Tyson had signed a 3 fight deal with warren and Johnny was to be his last opponent of that contract, at that time Johnny was world champion and in his prime, were as Tyson was finished, any chance of a upset if Nelson kept his nerve? .

Re: Remember Johnny Nelson was close 2 signing for a Tyson fight

Posted: 05 May 2014, 08:41
by Parson Cross
Johnny was terrified of him.
There was never a deal for him to be the third opponent just talk.
The antics in the lift at the hotel were hilarious though.
Poor old Debs.

Re: Remember Johnny Nelson was close 2 signing for a Tyson fight

Posted: 05 May 2014, 09:08
by Bleak
Parson Cross wrote:Johnny was terrified of him.
There was never a deal for him to be the third opponent just talk.
The antics in the lift at the hotel were hilarious though.
Poor old Debs.

Tell me more, before my time

Re: Remember Johnny Nelson was close 2 signing for a Tyson fight

Posted: 05 May 2014, 09:15
by Tuan_Jim
Mike Tyson wasn't so far past his best that he could lose to Johnny Nelson. Nelson would either go into his shell and lose every round or, more likely, get whacked.

Julius Francis would have been a more realistic heavyweight for Nelson to try.

Re: Remember Johnny Nelson was close 2 signing for a Tyson fight

Posted: 05 May 2014, 09:21
by Syntax Error
That would have been intruiging watching Nelson shrugging his shoulders for 12 rounds, whilst a washed up Tyson tried to tag him with single shots for 12 rounds. :doh:

I suppose I'm being unfair on Nelson as he was a long way from the embarrassing fighter he was in 1990 against DeLeon & Warring in 1992, because by 2000, he'd overcome his nerves, but I still think Tyson had just enough left to scare Nelson witless.

Re: Remember Johnny Nelson was close 2 signing for a Tyson fight

Posted: 05 May 2014, 09:57
by rio
Parson Cross wrote:Johnny was terrified of him.
There was never a deal for him to be the third opponent just talk.
The antics in the lift at the hotel were hilarious though.
Poor old Debs.

What happened in the lift?
Nelson could certainly take a shot to be fair to him, not many cruisers would be able to go the distance with corrie sanders

Re: Remember Johnny Nelson was close 2 signing for a Tyson fight

Posted: 05 May 2014, 09:57
by Tuan_Jim
Nelson could always beat journeymen, which is what he did throughout his WBO 'reign'. But plenty of past-it and fragile heavyweights easily defeated him. The idea of Mike Tyson losing to him, at any point, is absurd.

Re: Remember Johnny Nelson was close 2 signing for a Tyson fight

Posted: 05 May 2014, 11:56
by el_grande_mauro_mina
I never heard once Johnny Nelson being touted as an opponent for Mike Tyson - even in jest. :witzend:

Re: Remember Johnny Nelson was close 2 signing for a Tyson fight

Posted: 05 May 2014, 14:07
by JimJim2009
Parson Cross wrote:Johnny was terrified of him.
There was never a deal for him to be the third opponent just talk.
The antics in the lift at the hotel were hilarious though.
Poor old Debs.


Indeed. It was her job to wash his underpants afterwards.

Re: Remember Johnny Nelson was close 2 signing for a Tyson fight

Posted: 06 May 2014, 03:55
by Heartbreak_Kid79
Michael bennt wrote:He was at ringside calling Tyson out after mike won in Scotland, Tyson had signed a 3 fight deal with warren and Johnny was to be his last opponent of that contract, at that time Johnny was world champion and in his prime, were as Tyson was finished, any chance of a upset if Nelson kept his nerve? .
Tyson was past his prime obviously.... but wasn't finished. He was still amongst the top 10 heavyweights at the time.
Years later he would still last 8 rounds with Lewis and demolish Clifford Ettiene (who was more of a HW threat than Nelson would be) in a round.

I would see a Tyson KO in 4 or 5 rounds

Re: Remember Johnny Nelson was close 2 signing for a Tyson fight

Posted: 06 May 2014, 05:55
by Pugilist-specialist
Tuan_Jim wrote:Nelson could always beat journeymen, which is what he did throughout his WBO 'reign'.
The guy he won the title off knocked out David Haye 5 years later.

Re: Remember Johnny Nelson was close 2 signing for a Tyson fight

Posted: 06 May 2014, 07:54
by polecateddy
If Nelson could navigate into the second half he could pull it off on the cards. Tyson's appalling stamina was well masked in his late career by all the early blowouts. Nelson went the distance with Corrie Saunders well before his peak.

Re: Remember Johnny Nelson was close 2 signing for a Tyson fight

Posted: 06 May 2014, 07:58
by TerribleTerry
polecateddy wrote:If Nelson could navigate into the second half he could pull it off on the cards. Tyson's appalling stamina was well masked in his late career by all the early blowouts. Nelson went the distance with Corrie Saunders well before his peak.
The world has finally gone completely insane...

Nelson to outpoint Tyson. Dear God

Re: Remember Johnny Nelson was close 2 signing for a Tyson fight

Posted: 06 May 2014, 08:09
by Tuan_Jim
Pugilist-specialist wrote:
Tuan_Jim wrote:Nelson could always beat journeymen, which is what he did throughout his WBO 'reign'.
The guy he won the title off knocked out David Haye 5 years later.
And that makes him somehow not a journeyman?

I could reel off a long list of world champions with losses to journeymen on their records. Hopefully so can you.

Re: Remember Johnny Nelson was close 2 signing for a Tyson fight

Posted: 06 May 2014, 08:11
by Tuan_Jim
TerribleTerry wrote:
polecateddy wrote:If Nelson could navigate into the second half he could pull it off on the cards. Tyson's appalling stamina was well masked in his late career by all the early blowouts. Nelson went the distance with Corrie Saunders well before his peak.
The world has finally gone completely insane...

Nelson to outpoint Tyson. Dear God
If you want a laugh investigate Polecateddy's posts further. I've come close several times to putting together a Hall of Fame thread for his greatest remarks.

Did you know that Carl Thompson is an 'improved version of Rocky Marciano'?

Re: Remember Johnny Nelson was close 2 signing for a Tyson fight

Posted: 06 May 2014, 10:19
by jeej
There's an amusing bit in your book when you're in an elevator with your wife when it stops at a floor ... and who shapes to get in but Mike Tyson, who you'd just been calling out at a press conference! Oh my goodness I nearly shit myself! That was the thing about all the bravado I used to come out with at press conferences - most of the time it was just meant to hide my fear. I was so relieved when the lift doors closed and we got away.

Re: Remember Johnny Nelson was close 2 signing for a Tyson fight

Posted: 06 May 2014, 10:29
by Bard of Boxrec
polecateddy wrote:If Nelson could navigate into the second half he could pull it off on the cards. Tyson's appalling stamina was well masked in his late career by all the early blowouts. Nelson went the distance with Corrie Saunders well before his peak.
Gasp

Re: Remember Johnny Nelson was close 2 signing for a Tyson fight

Posted: 06 May 2014, 10:32
by Bard of Boxrec
jeej wrote:There's an amusing bit in your book when you're in an elevator with your wife when it stops at a floor ... and who shapes to get in but Mike Tyson, who you'd just been calling out at a press conference! Oh my goodness I nearly poo myself! That was the thing about all the bravado I used to come out with at press conferences - most of the time it was just meant to hide my fear. I was so relieved when the lift doors closed and we got away.
This is hilarious. Something about a boxer saying 'Oh my goodness!'

Re: Remember Johnny Nelson was close 2 signing for a Tyson fight

Posted: 06 May 2014, 10:55
by JimJim2009
TerribleTerry wrote:
polecateddy wrote:If Nelson could navigate into the second half he could pull it off on the cards. Tyson's appalling stamina was well masked in his late career by all the early blowouts. Nelson went the distance with Corrie Saunders well before his peak.
The world has finally gone completely insane...

Nelson to outpoint Tyson. Dear God
X2. How does losing every round to Sanders mean he could beat Mike Tyson ?!?!?!?!

It's one thing basing conclusions like that on the bare stats, but nobody who enjoyed the ups and downs of Nelson's career could possibly believe he would have a chance against Tyson.

Re: Remember Johnny Nelson was close 2 signing for a Tyson fight

Posted: 06 May 2014, 12:53
by Parson Cross
All you've got to do his buy his book. There's a few pages dedicated to it. Great times and so funny.

Re: Remember Johnny Nelson was close 2 signing for a Tyson fight

Posted: 06 May 2014, 12:54
by Tomasino
TerribleTerry wrote:
polecateddy wrote:If Nelson could navigate into the second half he could pull it off on the cards. Tyson's appalling stamina was well masked in his late career by all the early blowouts. Nelson went the distance with Corrie Saunders well before his peak.
The world has finally gone completely insane...

Nelson to outpoint Tyson. Dear God
It's ok, polecat has been writing insane posts for quite a while. He thinks Carl Thompson would beat Ezzard Charles and Rocky Marciano :lol:

Re: Remember Johnny Nelson was close 2 signing for a Tyson fight

Posted: 06 May 2014, 12:56
by Parson Cross
The worst thing Johnny could think to say to him as he hung over the ropes with Johnny ringside was "fat boy".
Oh dear !

Re: Remember Johnny Nelson was close 2 signing for a Tyson fight

Posted: 06 May 2014, 14:39
by JimJim2009
Parson Cross wrote:All you've got to do his buy his book. There's a few pages dedicated to it. Great times and so funny.
My dad bought me it at xmas, I thoroughly enjoyed it. He's a really down to earth bloke, he comes across like someone who accidently ended up a boxer and made the best of it. His take on the Deleon fight was very candid.

Re: Remember Johnny Nelson was close 2 signing for a Tyson fight

Posted: 06 May 2014, 17:15
by Parson Cross
I'm in the book Jimjim.
I'm the so called mate who told him to stick em up at the cash point.
When I found out about the kidnap threat I was mortified.

Re: Remember Johnny Nelson was close 2 signing for a Tyson fight

Posted: 07 May 2014, 04:16
by n1ebf
Syntax Error wrote:That would have been intruiging watching Nelson shrugging his shoulders for 12 rounds, whilst a washed up Tyson tried to tag him with single shots for 12 rounds. :doh:

I suppose I'm being unfair on Nelson as he was a long way from the embarrassing fighter he was in 1990 against DeLeon & Warring in 1992, because by 2000, he'd overcome his nerves, but I still think Tyson had just enough left to scare Nelson witless.

I suspect Nelson would have handled him. I doubt he'd have sh*t himself very much. He'd have made a packet too probably.