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In the IFL tv interview Mr Hearn intimates that Cyclone promotions have managed to pull this off. Might be a few weeks/months before it is announced mind you.

Thoughts?

I'd rather have Frampton vs Santa Cruz and Quigg vs Martinez.

Actually would be interested to see this fight Martinez seems to have grown as a fighter since becoming champ and he wasn't exactly out of his depth first time round

Horse wrote:I'd rather have Frampton vs Santa Cruz and Quigg vs Martinez.

Santa Cruz wasnt willing to fight Frampton yet apparantly. He said he wanted to fight Quigg first and get a hold of that belt and then fight Frampton around December time. He also said that he thought Frampton was the better of the two.

I hope it happens for Carl as he deserves a shot at the world title,,

still a pity Quigg and Frampton does not happen before one of them is beaten,,

I think Quigg will be beaten the first time he steps up, but you never know,,

massive unification fight for winter time would be great all the same

Frampton-Martinez 2 and quigg-santa cruz are amazing fights.

Martinez really has gained some momentum, winning three IBF title fights (2 away from home) by stoppage - and this could be a tougher fight. Frampton's looked razor sharp (indeed, he impressed stopping Martinez) but the Spaniard is going to be very hard to deny while in his peak.

really hope quigg-santa cruz happens. a good scalp for quigg because the Mexican is a world title holder in two weights. it'll be hard for quigg vs a guy experienced in the trenches but I like his body punching and indeed his full repertoire to pull off a memorable win. it'll be hard but this is the style of opponent quigg could really show his stuff against.

Horse wrote:I'd rather have Frampton vs Santa Cruz and Quigg vs Martinez.

No love for Rigondeaux?
That's a surprise!

ttornado wrote:

Horse wrote:I'd rather have Frampton vs Santa Cruz and Quigg vs Martinez.

No love for Rigondeaux?
That's a surprise!

Rigondeaux is just generally overlooked. Everytime they talk about "World Champions" he never ever gets a mention.

I suppose the term too good for his own good would be the best way to discribe him.

pyenest77 wrote:

ttornado wrote:

Horse wrote:I'd rather have Frampton vs Santa Cruz and Quigg vs Martinez.

No love for Rigondeaux?
That's a surprise!

Rigondeaux is just generally overlooked. Everytime they talk about "World Champions" he never ever gets a mention.

I suppose the term too good for his own good would be the best way to discribe him.

Plus the fact that he is incredibly boring. Lets be honest who enjoys watching him? He's in the same bracket as Mayweather and Klitschko either as a purest you love them or as a fight fan you don't like them and I guess most people are in the second camp. Mayweather has the slight advantage as he's American and as everything works from America outwards it's the only reason Mayweather has any real appeal at all.

All three are too good for their own good but all three in a defensive keep out of the way, don't get hit way. None of them come to fight.

Let them all fight each other first then lets see who is the number one challenger to Rigo then make the fight.

Ian1973 wrote:

pyenest77 wrote:

ttornado wrote: No love for Rigondeaux?
That's a surprise!

Rigondeaux is just generally overlooked. Everytime they talk about "World Champions" he never ever gets a mention.

I suppose the term too good for his own good would be the best way to discribe him.

Plus the fact that he is incredibly boring. Lets be honest who enjoys watching him? He's in the same bracket as Mayweather and Klitschko either as a purest you love them or as a fight fan you don't like them and I guess most people are in the second camp. Mayweather has the slight advantage as he's American and as everything works from America outwards it's the only reason Mayweather has any real appeal at all.

All three are too good for their own good but all three in a defensive keep out of the way, don't get hit way. None of them come to fight.

Let them all fight each other first then lets see who is the number one challenger to Rigo then make the fight.

I do enjoy watching him myself but then I enjoy the slicksters more than the brawlers to an extent. I guess that's why I enjoy Wlad aswell to a large extent (bar the clinching I mean)

ttornado wrote:No love for Rigondeaux?
That's a surprise!

Rigondeaux vs Galahad.

There you go.

Ian1973 wrote: Plus the fact that he is incredibly boring. Lets be honest who enjoys watching him?

I enjoyed the Donaire fight. The Agbeko fight less so, but I don't blame Rigondeaux for that shocker.

Horse wrote:Rigondeaux vs Galahad.
There you go.

Quite a step-up for Galahad that fight.
Who would you want to win?

Quigg should be forced to fight Rigondeaux or stripped of the WBA (regular/interim) strap.

ttornado wrote:Quite a step-up for Galahad that fight.
Who would you want to win?

I'd want Galahad to win. I don't think he'd be very likely to pull it off though.

Horse wrote:

ttornado wrote:Quite a step-up for Galahad that fight.
Who would you want to win?

I'd want Galahad to win. I don't think he'd be very likely to pull it off though.

I think he'd be lucky to see the end of round 2.

Ian1973 wrote:

pyenest77 wrote:

ttornado wrote: No love for Rigondeaux?
That's a surprise!

Rigondeaux is just generally overlooked. Everytime they talk about "World Champions" he never ever gets a mention.

I suppose the term too good for his own good would be the best way to discribe him.

Plus the fact that he is incredibly boring. Lets be honest who enjoys watching him? He's in the same bracket as Mayweather and Klitschko either as a purest you love them or as a fight fan you don't like them and I guess most people are in the second camp. Mayweather has the slight advantage as he's American and as everything works from America outwards it's the only reason Mayweather has any real appeal at all.

All three are too good for their own good but all three in a defensive keep out of the way, don't get hit way. None of them come to fight.

Let them all fight each other first then lets see who is the number one challenger to Rigo then make the fight.

Fanbases and the amount of money each guy can generate is what separates the other 2 names you mentioned from Rigo. Mayweather and Vitali can pack arenas and stadiums in the US and Germany respectively. From that enormous amounts of money can be generated. Rigo doesn't have this luxury, and a lot of people moan that Mr Hearn and Mr McGuigan won't mention Guillermo Rigondeaux, but if they were promoters they wouldn't be going near the guy either. It just doesn't make business sense at all to throw your prize asset in with a guy who is so good but who makes so little in the way of reward.

funtime wrote:I think he'd be lucky to see the end of round 2.

Galahad would be very likely to make it into round 3.

Rigondeaux is not some wrecking machine. He's overrated.

Horse wrote:

funtime wrote:I think he'd be lucky to see the end of round 2.

Galahad would be very likely to make it into round 3.

Rigondeaux is not some wrecking machine. He's overrated.

He is getting to be overrated now yes. Almost mythical.

DMA1987 wrote:He is getting to be overrated now yes. Almost mythical.

He's very good, but the way some people talk about him like he's unbeatable boxing perfection is far too much.

Horse wrote:He's very good, but the way some people talk about him like he's unbeatable boxing perfection is far too much.

littlepug wrote:Actually would be interested to see this fight Martinez seems to have grown as a fighter since becoming champ and he wasn't exactly out of his depth first time round

I agree, he's always been a handful but he seems to have improved massively since his title win. I'm reasonably confident that Frampton can beat him again BUT I wouldn't be surprised if Martinez gained his revenge ...

ttornado wrote:

Horse wrote:Rigondeaux vs Galahad.
There you go.

Quite a step-up for Galahad that fight.
Who would you want to win?

Quigg should be forced to fight Rigondeaux or stripped of the WBA (regular/interim) strap.

okay but quigg would stand to gain the WBC belt held by 2-weight titlist leo santa cruz, a real handful, a credible name on the world scene and also an attractive one. this is the fight santa cruz appears to be interested in.

pyenest77 wrote:

ttornado wrote:

Horse wrote:I'd rather have Frampton vs Santa Cruz and Quigg vs Martinez.

No love for Rigondeaux?
That's a surprise!

Rigondeaux is just generally overlooked. Everytime they talk about "World Champions" he never ever gets a mention.

I suppose the term too good for his own good would be the best way to discribe him.

there's loads of attractive matches to be made at 122, a weight class known for its gritty performers, a weight class distinguished by such rivalries as Vazquez-marquez, barrera-morales & Zaragoza-banke.

rigondeaux, with his pernell whitaker way of dominating with agile southpaw boxing, just isn't attractive. it's unfortunate for him but true - and who'd want to put their fighter in there with him for an absolute undressing? - especially when American television don't seem too interested.

Autobarn wrote:okay but quigg would stand to gain the WBC belt held by 2-weight titlist leo santa cruz, a real handful, a credible name on the world scene and also an attractive one. this is the fight santa cruz appears to be interested in.

And if Quigg beat Rigondeaux, Quigg can then call himself the WBA champ without feeling like a fraud.
Also Rigo will fight for less and in the UK.

nothing fraudulent fighting a fan favourite 2 weight belt holder in santa cruz.

also, nothing dull about it either.

I believe quigg, when he puts his shots together, hits with more conviction than anyone in the uk or Ireland. the santa cruz fight, for me, is the next step in his development.

none out of quigg, Martinez & Frampton are ready for the Cuban, yet. and even when they are, it's going to be terribly difficult in there. whoever gets the assignment needs a steep learning curve, loads of confidence & of course home advantage.