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Hall v Butler Undercard

Posted: 23 May 2014, 21:20
by bodyactive
on the undercard Bradley Saunders fights in a 10 rounder Jason Cunningham Josh Leather V Tommy Carus ,Jordan King,Thomas Patrick Ward, Rhys Evans, Lewis Scott and Dave Allen

Re: Hall v Butler Undercard

Posted: 24 May 2014, 03:31
by Hagler2002
Was Jon Lewis Dickinson-Ovil Mckenzie not worth a mention? Haha!

Re: Hall v Butler Undercard

Posted: 24 May 2014, 03:56
by bodyactive
it already got a mention on another topic.I was just trying to get out the names of the young up and coming North East Talent as well as Young Cunningham Evans and Dave Allen

Re: Hall v Butler Undercard

Posted: 25 May 2014, 11:41
by FIGHTFANs
Don't no why they don't put the local up and coming boxers on the undercard you have prize fighter champ Glen foot,Peter cope ,Johnson McClupha Anth Nelson,Criag Dixon all unbeaten fighters and ticket sellers.

Re: Hall v Butler Undercard

Posted: 25 May 2014, 12:51
by jameswilson
They are opening up the entire arena this time aren't they. Really hope this is a sellout as the bill is definitely worthy of a sellout.

Re: Hall v Butler Undercard

Posted: 25 May 2014, 13:18
by expe
jameswilson wrote:They are opening up the entire arena this time aren't they. Really hope this is a sellout as the bill is definitely worthy of a sellout.
From the looks of things there's 4 blocks closed on each side, either side of where the stage would be in a concert layout, that's what's showing on ticketmaster. Difficult to see how many have been sold because ticketmaster don't offer the select a seat option and eventim only seem to be selling certain sections, but in those there doesn't look to be many left, I would guess the other areas have been given to the fighters to sell.

Re: Hall v Butler Undercard

Posted: 26 May 2014, 15:25
by Andrew
Haskins v Sergio Perales in an IBF eliminator just been added.

Solid fight on paper Perales is who Hall beat on the McDonnell card in Donny last year. From what I remember there was not much in that fight.

Haskins is 7 in the IBF and Perales 6 so a win for Haskins here probably gets him one fight away from being mandatory.

Re: Hall v Butler Undercard

Posted: 26 May 2014, 15:32
by handsofstone
Im happy Haskins has got himself into some sort of contention,by the standard of todays IBF BW challengers,Lee's long overdue a shot,i fancy Haskins to do the bizz,Perales is a tough SOB as he showed against Hall but Lee's too cute for him

It would be sods law for Haskins to get stopped from Perales after spending most of the time recently on the outside looking in

Re: Hall v Butler Undercard

Posted: 26 May 2014, 21:34
by GooalaShooola
It's an excellent bill, gutted I can't make it this time around. Like got mentioned earlier, it appears that tickets have already sold better than last time.

Re: Hall v Butler Undercard

Posted: 27 May 2014, 13:57
by nick885
Haskins is going to find this fight a hard one perales has the tools to show haskins has no guard and easily be hit. The other thing to consider is away from his home town haskins won't get away with his constant fowling and holding.

Re: Hall v Butler Undercard

Posted: 27 May 2014, 14:04
by jameswilson
Naandrew wrote:Haskins v Sergio Perales in an IBF eliminator just been added.

Solid fight on paper Perales is who Hall beat on the McDonnell card in Donny last year. From what I remember there was not much in that fight.

Haskins is 7 in the IBF and Perales 6 so a win for Haskins here probably gets him one fight away from being mandatory.
Not sure if the RBR for that night has been lost now but I personally thought Perales nicked it as did the majority of posters watching and posting in the RBR.

Not sure if either the International or Intercontinenal titles are vacant but I hope one of them is on the line as if he wins then that assures Lee of more fights that will push his ranking.

Re: Hall v Butler Undercard

Posted: 27 May 2014, 14:07
by jameswilson
nick885 wrote:Haskins is going to find this fight a hard one perales has the tools to show haskins has no guard and easily be hit. The other thing to consider is away from his home town haskins won't get away with his constant fowling and holding.
Can you just give us on a scale of 1 to 10 how loudly you will cry if Lee wins and gets mandated to face Stu?

Re: Hall v Butler Undercard

Posted: 27 May 2014, 14:08
by expe
nick885 wrote:Haskins is going to find this fight a hard one perales has the tools to show haskins has no guard and easily be hit. The other thing to consider is away from his home town haskins won't get away with his constant fowling and holding.
Fowling? Those poor birds, they'll be scarred for life..

Re: Hall v Butler Undercard

Posted: 27 May 2014, 14:09
by expe
jameswilson wrote:
nick885 wrote:Haskins is going to find this fight a hard one perales has the tools to show haskins has no guard and easily be hit. The other thing to consider is away from his home town haskins won't get away with his constant fowling and holding.
Can you just give us on a scale of 1 to 10 how loudly you will cry if Lee wins and gets mandated to face Stu?
You mean mandated to fight Butler :wink: :OhYes:

Re: Hall v Butler Undercard

Posted: 27 May 2014, 14:12
by jameswilson
expe wrote:
jameswilson wrote:
nick885 wrote:Haskins is going to find this fight a hard one perales has the tools to show haskins has no guard and easily be hit. The other thing to consider is away from his home town haskins won't get away with his constant fowling and holding.
Can you just give us on a scale of 1 to 10 how loudly you will cry if Lee wins and gets mandated to face Stu?
You mean mandated to fight Butler :wink: :OhYes:
Honestly mate I really do think Butler's a tad over-rated and Hall has improved. I fancy him to hold onto his title. How long they can keep stringing Caballero along for tho we don't know.

Re: Hall v Butler Undercard

Posted: 27 May 2014, 14:13
by nick885
jameswilson wrote:
Naandrew wrote:Haskins v Sergio Perales in an IBF eliminator just been added.

Solid fight on paper Perales is who Hall beat on the McDonnell card in Donny last year. From what I remember there was not much in that fight.

Haskins is 7 in the IBF and Perales 6 so a win for Haskins here probably gets him one fight away from being mandatory.
Not sure if the RBR for that night has been lost now but I personally thought Perales nicked it as did the majority of posters watching and posting in the RBR.

Not sure if either the International or Intercontinenal titles are vacant but I hope one of them is on the line as if he wins then that assures Lee of more fights that will push his ranking.
Judges and ref thought hall won as did perales and most of the crowd including myself.

Re: Hall v Butler Undercard

Posted: 27 May 2014, 14:17
by jameswilson
nick885 wrote:
jameswilson wrote:
Naandrew wrote:Haskins v Sergio Perales in an IBF eliminator just been added.

Solid fight on paper Perales is who Hall beat on the McDonnell card in Donny last year. From what I remember there was not much in that fight.

Haskins is 7 in the IBF and Perales 6 so a win for Haskins here probably gets him one fight away from being mandatory.
Not sure if the RBR for that night has been lost now but I personally thought Perales nicked it as did the majority of posters watching and posting in the RBR.

Not sure if either the International or Intercontinenal titles are vacant but I hope one of them is on the line as if he wins then that assures Lee of more fights that will push his ranking.
Judges and ref thought hall won as did perales and most of the crowd including myself.
Perales did not think Hall won you cretin he clearly thought he had been jobbed from watching the post fight interview. The refs opinion we don't know as he doesn't score it. And you are won of Stu's relatives who thought he beat Lee Haskins (which he didn't in anyones opinion.) Hardly the face of impartiality.

Re: Hall v Butler Undercard

Posted: 27 May 2014, 14:30
by expe
jameswilson wrote:
nick885 wrote:
jameswilson wrote:
Not sure if the RBR for that night has been lost now but I personally thought Perales nicked it as did the majority of posters watching and posting in the RBR.

Not sure if either the International or Intercontinenal titles are vacant but I hope one of them is on the line as if he wins then that assures Lee of more fights that will push his ranking.
Judges and ref thought hall won as did perales and most of the crowd including myself.
Perales did not think Hall won you cretin he clearly thought he had been jobbed from watching the post fight interview. The refs opinion we don't know as he doesn't score it. And you are won of Stu's relatives who thought he beat Lee Haskins (which he didn't in anyones opinion.) Hardly the face of impartiality.
He's been trying to claim Hall hits harder than Santa Cruz :doh:

Managed to dig out the RBR thread, still reading through but hopefully there will be some discussion about Hall-Perales in it.

http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=165734

Edit: Found the stuff about the Hall fight, few comments here

'Decent fight I only caught the last 3 rounds. Commentators have it close to Perales but obviously Hall is on home turf.'

'Hall was very lucky, didn't like his attitude afterwards TBH.'

'Perales won that - but no surprise as the UK is now a 'knock them out to win' destination
for foreign boxers. :shame:'

'Hall got a gift there. Absolutely empty arena. Terrible support.'

'It's happening so often now isn't it. 117-111 was ridiculous.'

Re: Hall v Butler Undercard

Posted: 27 May 2014, 14:35
by jameswilson
Judging from those comments maybe nick was right all along :confused:

Re: Hall v Butler Undercard

Posted: 27 May 2014, 15:10
by nick885
I take it that james Wilson has fought been in a corner and trained fighters and been a referee at a fight and was there on the night as I was. Comments are what they are it easing a gift he fought for it. And I am not trying to claim that hall hits harder than Santa Cruz, malinga who has fought both claims hall hits harder than Santa Cruz, as stated in interviews and in the press. As for calling me a cretin you should never use words that might come back to slap you in the face one-day.

Re: Hall v Butler Undercard

Posted: 27 May 2014, 15:57
by jameswilson
nick885 wrote:I take it that james Wilson has fought been in a corner and trained fighters and been a referee at a fight and was there on the night as I was.
Yeah all those things...... :confused:

Amazing none of us have heard of you despite you claiming to be all of those things tho. All I'll say is thank god you've never been a judge for a fight.

Re: Hall v Butler Undercard

Posted: 27 May 2014, 15:59
by nick885
expe take a look at the fights you pass comment on, watch one fighter at a time mark down his punches that land on the target area and then do the same for the other fighter, do this round by round and you see who won the fight its time consuming but gives you a better chance to really see who won the fight.
And don't forget back of the head and body as well as anywhere on the arms doesn't score.

Re: Hall v Butler Undercard

Posted: 27 May 2014, 16:01
by nick885
jameswilson wrote:
nick885 wrote:I take it that james Wilson has fought been in a corner and trained fighters and been a referee at a fight and was there on the night as I was.
Yeah all those things...... :confused:

Amazing none of us have heard of you despite you claiming to be all of those things tho. All I'll say is thank god you've never been a judge for a fight.
Did my time 30 years ago

Re: Hall v Butler Undercard

Posted: 27 May 2014, 16:15
by nick885
Expe and jameswilson any comment on what perales and malinga have been recorded as saying after their fights with hall, there have been interviews in the press and on tv.

Re: Hall v Butler Undercard

Posted: 27 May 2014, 16:23
by expe
nick885 wrote:expe take a look at the fights you pass comment on, watch one fighter at a time mark down his punches that land on the target area and then do the same for the other fighter, do this round by round and you see who won the fight its time consuming but gives you a better chance to really see who won the fight.
And don't forget back of the head and body as well as anywhere on the arms doesn't score.
So body punches aren't scoring punches? Christ I've heard it all now. :doh: You clearly don't have a fornicating clue how a fight's scored if you think rounds are won based on who lands the most punches.

They weren't even my comments anyway, I was quoting other people you tool, I didn't see the Perales fight, I was watching Burns-Gonzalez, but everyone on the RBR thought Perales got robbed.