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Fighters who should have made it...but didnt
Posted: 28 May 2014, 16:40
by Broomhall
We all know them. The guys who had sparkling amateur careers, turned pro and then either disappeared or just never fulfilled that promise.
Recently I can think of Michael Grant and Jamie Cox, whose careers look like stalling, further back Tommy Sheils, Peter English, Keith Ferdinand and Mark Ramsey who either just disappeared or in Ramseys case turned into a journeyman.
Who can you guys think of.....
Re: Fighters who should have made it...but didnt
Posted: 28 May 2014, 16:49
by Manchester Massive
As a kid I remember watching Errol Christie and George Collins and both were tipped as future world champs but neither were quite as successful in the pro game
Re: Fighters who should have made it...but didnt
Posted: 28 May 2014, 16:50
by Mimmy
Herol Graham was very unlucky to be in a era where there was so many fighters at middleweight who were world class. Today Bomber would have cleaned up and made these suckers look bloody damn silly. He just didn't make it a world level at the very top of the tree.
Also Paul Sykes the British heavyweight from wakefield was very unlucky not to get to the top, after only 2 or 3 fights his manager had cards printed touting him as a future world champion, in todays league I would have put him on parr as Tyson fury.
Gary Mason was another, unfortunate to be in a stable with Bruno and Notice.
Re: Fighters who should have made it...but didnt
Posted: 28 May 2014, 17:27
by DMA1987
Bomber Graham was world class. No two ways about it, he didn't let anybody down.
Re: Fighters who should have made it...but didnt
Posted: 28 May 2014, 17:33
by curtis wood
John fewkes
Re: Fighters who should have made it...but didnt
Posted: 28 May 2014, 17:35
by Boxerbeetle
Dean Francis could have had a fantastic career if he hadn't had his injuries.
Re: Fighters who should have made it...but didnt
Posted: 28 May 2014, 17:38
by TerribleTerry
Craig Dermody from Manchester.
One of Brian Hughes prospects who made boxing look easy.
I could watch him box all day - cracking style with all the shots
After losing to Brummie war horse Karl Taylor in a rematch he packed it in. Real shame
Check out this fight against Russ Davison on youtube
Re: Fighters who should have made it...but didnt
Posted: 28 May 2014, 17:39
by whiskey
Spoke to Jamie and it looks like he's back out in Sept after finally sorting his hand out.
Re: Fighters who should have made it...but didnt
Posted: 28 May 2014, 17:42
by TerribleTerry
curtis wood wrote:John fewkes
This.
Fireball should have won titles with his ability
Re: Fighters who should have made it...but didnt
Posted: 28 May 2014, 18:06
by mike john
although i didnt think he was world championship material, i thought matthew thirwall would go further than he did
Re: Fighters who should have made it...but didnt
Posted: 28 May 2014, 18:09
by dbflex
Biggest example currently - though I still hope he makes it - is Joe Selkirk. All the talent in the world and a top amateur.
Re: Fighters who should have made it...but didnt
Posted: 28 May 2014, 19:32
by johnty1888
James Rooney
Alan Temple
Re: Fighters who should have made it...but didnt
Posted: 28 May 2014, 20:00
by keithmoonhangover
I think British fight fans can overrate Herol Graham. He was a superb boxer, but he was never going to be a world champion if he couldn't beat Sumbu Kalambay.
Re: Fighters who should have made it...but didnt
Posted: 28 May 2014, 20:01
by metchampion
Colin Derrick
Re: Fighters who should have made it...but didnt
Posted: 29 May 2014, 00:14
by Michael bennt
Eamon Magee, Joe Selkirk, Errol Christie, Steven foster jr, Courtney fry,
Re: Fighters who should have made it...but didnt
Posted: 29 May 2014, 02:41
by dapug
Marlon Ward.
Re: Fighters who should have made it...but didnt
Posted: 29 May 2014, 04:15
by Broomhall
Bill Hodge wrote:Gary Mason; Errol Christie.....WELL...these fighters ARE QUITE WELL KNOWN if BOXING IS YOUR THING. Both of them had developed "good names".
I think Christie didnt achieve his potential, but I would say that Mason did.
Some good names up there, amazing to think of the potential they had that just didnt translate to the pros.
Re: Fighters who should have made it...but didnt
Posted: 29 May 2014, 05:44
by Coco
johnty1888 wrote:James Rooney
Alan Temple
Rooney was made for the amateurs, a light puncher and a questionable chin.
Re: Fighters who should have made it...but didnt
Posted: 29 May 2014, 05:46
by bigjack
keithmoonhangover wrote:I think British fight fans can overrate Herol Graham. He was a superb boxer, but he was never going to be a world champion if he couldn't beat Sumbu Kalambay.
Why not,Kalambay turned out to be a very good champion,and not beating him was no disgrace,look who Graham fought after that,3 champions and almost beat them all.Against McCallum,he was a point away from a draw if i remember right,and that was because he threw Mike over,then he was outboxing and outpunching one of the biggest punchers in history,after that he was old and past it against Brewer,but was still ahead.
Re: Fighters who should have made it...but didnt
Posted: 29 May 2014, 08:08
by Broomhall
Alan vaughan who I think was Britains youngest ever Olympic Boxer-loads of national titles-would be another one. I think it would make an interesting book if you could get these stories together. I guess it is the same in football. It must be very hard to come to terms with life if for a year or two you have been on a premiership clubs books and they they let you go.
Re: Fighters who should have made it...but didnt
Posted: 29 May 2014, 08:20
by Matt Teague
Peter Richardson
Re: Fighters who should have made it...but didnt
Posted: 29 May 2014, 08:26
by bennie
Colin Jones. He would have beaten Milt McCrory in London.
Re: Fighters who should have made it...but didnt
Posted: 29 May 2014, 09:00
by Controversial
I would've like to see how Rod Douglas's career would've panned out. Chucked in with Bomber Graham too quickly after only 12 fights and it ended his career.
Re: Fighters who should have made it...but didnt
Posted: 29 May 2014, 09:05
by thepocketrocket
Dean Pithie...if he has laid off the ale he would have done so much better. The talent was there
Re: Fighters who should have made it...but didnt
Posted: 29 May 2014, 09:27
by Broomhall
Some good names there guys-I remember Colin Derrick, Dean Pithie-also Cameron Lithgow from Swindon and Darwin Brewster from Wales. I was on the England squad with Rod Douglas who along with Brian Schumacher should have done better as pros. Colin Jones though I think could be argued may have reached his potential? Peter Richardson I think beat Vernon Forrest at the Olympics.
Shows the importance of management, the right promotion and I think in many boxers cases the feeling they have all the time in the world when they are young.