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Billy Conn by 12th round ko.

OK, I'm willing to go with Conn...but by KO? He didn't have many of those. Even though Floyd didn't have the strongest chin around, I still have a hard time imagining Conn taking it to Patterson agressively enough to score the knock-out (his famous flurry vs. Louis notwithstanding). Or are you envisioning a senario where a frustrated Floyd gets so agressive late in the fight that he'd have been lunging into counters?

dan1030 wrote:OK, I'm willing to go with Conn...but by KO? He didn't have many of those. Even though Floyd didn't have the strongest chin around, I still have a hard time imagining Conn taking it to Patterson agressively enough to score the knock-out (his famous flurry vs. Louis notwithstanding). Or are you envisioning a senario where a frustrated Floyd gets so agressive late in the fight that he'd have been lunging into counters?

WELL REMEMBER THAT JOE LOUIS IS RECOGNISE TO BE THE 2ND GREATES HEAVYWEIGHT OF ALL TIME. AND CONN WAS CLOSED TO KNOCK HIM OUT IN THE 12TH ROUND OF THEIR FIRST MEETING. FOR MORE BOXING EXPERTS PATTERSON DOESN'T BELONG IN THE TOP TEN HEAVYWEIGHTS CHAMPIONS OF ALL TIME. MUST OF HIS CHALLENGERS WERE NOT FIRST RANKED BOXERS. HE TOOK THE TITLE FROM AN VERY OLD MOORE. WHO TOOK A DESVASTATING BEATING AGAINST ROCKY MARCIANO ONE YEAR BEFORE. NOW WHEN HE WAS CHALLENGED BY THE NO. ONE CONTENDER IN JOHANSSON, HE WAS KAYO IN THE 3RD ROUND. YES, HE WON THE TITLE BACK FROM JOHANSSON. BUT HE NEVER FACED: NINO VALDEZ, CLEVELAND WILLIAMS, ZORA FOLLEY, AND HE SHOULD HAD DEFFENDED THE TITLE AGAINST SONNY LISTON IN 1960.BUT HE WAITED 2 YEARS MORE UNTIL THE PRESSURE WAS TOO MUCH FOR HIM. I GUESS HIS CARREER IS MORE IMPRESSIVE AFTER HE LOST THE TITLE THAN WHEN HE WAS CHAMPION. FOR ME ANY OF THE BOXERS I'D MENTIONED BEFORE WOULD HAD KNOCK HIM OUT.

I'd agree that the fighters you mention would all have a good chance of KOing Patterson, but they all hit a lot harder than Conn (who, just so you know where I'm coming from, is my own personal all-time favorite light heavy). Conn did ideed hurt Louis, but it was really just one perfectly timed, perfectly placed shot that did the damage; once Louis was able to get his head back together, Conn was done-for while fighting aggressively.
And, just for the record, I think that most of the other heavywieghts you mentin would also loose lopsided decisions to Conn as well, but we are talking about a guy who only scored 14 career knockouts against light heavies, so I don't see many KOs coming for him at heavy.

dan1030 wrote:I'd agree that the fighters you mention would all have a good chance of KOing Patterson, but they all hit a lot harder than Conn (who, just so you know where I'm coming from, is my own personal all-time favorite light heavy). Conn did ideed hurt Louis, but it was really just one perfectly timed, perfectly placed shot that did the damage; once Louis was able to get his head back together, Conn was done-for while fighting aggressively.
And, just for the record, I think that most of the other heavywieghts you mentin would also loose lopsided decisions to Conn as well, but we are talking about a guy who only scored 14 career knockouts against light heavies, so I don't see many KOs coming for him at heavy.

It looks like Conn liked to kayo heavyweights. He knock out more heavies than light-heavies.