BoxRec

Saturday 31 May 2014
Dance Land Ballroom, Davenport, Iowa, USA

cruiserweight
Jordan Shimmell 14(12)-0-0
vs
Jonathan Corn 47(26)-27(17)-3

Shimmell stops Corn in 1
Shimmell did quick work of Corn hurting him to the body.




Antwun Echols fighting on the undercard



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I love how active this kid is & how he's being moved. 15 fights in 2 years. Fighting a lot of these 40+ fight journeyman guys for last half dozen or so fights. This is the type of career trajectory blueprint I'd use if I was moving a guy along. This next 12 months should be seeing him fight a undefeated or 1 L prospect or two & a top 15-20 guy towards the end of that period if they stay true to my theoretical blueprint.

He's in this Midwest circuit as soon as he step up he'll lose.

I heard good things about Shimmel.. maybe he'll fair better than expected

DetroitHxC wrote:Its funny how there were so many people complaining about the way he was being moved in like his 5th fight, and apparently there still are some haters out there.

Those complaints were justified. He was fighting a guy in a 10 round bout who had never been in a bigger then 4 or 6 round fight iirc. That's effed up, but from What Dennis said it was more about the promotion needing a certainly amount of scheduled rounds & for Jordan to headline iirc. The problem was the Michigan commission sanctioning that fight for that amount of rounds imo & that was what part people took issue with in that thread iirc not so much the opponent choice.

I know he's only been a pro for 2 years, but I still don't get the point of matchups like this. Corn is beyond terrible, Shimmell may as well have just been hitting a heavy bag out there. Wake me up when he fights someone in the BoxRec top 50.

ReggieDiggs wrote:I love how active this kid is & how he's being moved. 15 fights in 2 years. Fighting a lot of these 40+ fight journeyman guys for last half dozen or so fights. This is the type of career trajectory blueprint I'd use if I was moving a guy along. This next 12 months should be seeing him fight a undefeated or 1 L prospect or two & a top 15-20 guy towards the end of that period if they stay true to my theoretical blueprint.

Reggie. We are at exactly different ends of the spectrum. You love the way he is being moved. IWBR will not recogonise this type of fighter high in the ratings and discourages mug-fighting. This fighter could easily con his way to a title. There is almost no point in him having these fights. Poor little Federico Catubay gets your thumbs down and this chap is what you would be doing if you were managing. You have things so much the wrong way round.

Lennox wrote:

ReggieDiggs wrote:I love how active this kid is & how he's being moved. 15 fights in 2 years. Fighting a lot of these 40+ fight journeyman guys for last half dozen or so fights. This is the type of career trajectory blueprint I'd use if I was moving a guy along. This next 12 months should be seeing him fight a undefeated or 1 L prospect or two & a top 15-20 guy towards the end of that period if they stay true to my theoretical blueprint.

Reggie. We are at exactly different ends of the spectrum. You love the way he is being moved. IWBR will not recogonise this type of fighter high in the ratings and discourages mug-fighting. This fighter could easily con his way to a title. There is almost no point in him having these fights. Poor little Federico Catubay gets your thumbs down and this chap is what you would be doing if you were managing. You have things so much the wrong way round.

This is an apples to oranges comparison. I didn't even bring up his ranking first off I'm commenting on the overall growth of a fighter & imho fighting these 40+ vets with not great but winning records is an excellent schooling in this early point (2nd year) as a pro . Most cats are fighting guys with the same or similar experience to them or just guys with more L's then W's at this point. I guarantee you Jordan's ring IQ has been increased @ a faster pace due to these choices.

And I'm still lmmfao you think Federico deserved to be the 9th best guy in a division @ some point in his career. Like I said we're just gonna be agreeing to disagree about that one.

I was the one who had the issues before. They're not doing much to impress me yet. Elite prospects, which they try promote Shimmell as and he may very well be, shouldn't be taking fights like this at 14-0. I was at JJ Corn's last fight against Butch Hajicek and it was supposed to be a kind of "retirement" fight for the both of them. Corn lost that fight and he had no business in the ring with Shimmell.

I'll beat a dead horse here, but why aren't they yelling and screaming for fights against other Midwest cruisers like Al Sands and Olanrewaju Durodola?

Durodola: http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer

Sands: http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer

in defense of Shimmell, he also fought last month and has been keeping very busy. I looked up Corn's record and damn they may as well have put me in there.

I read he has a great amateur background and has been going up and down the stairs from Cruiser to Heavy. I've course I'd rather see him as a Heavy. He looks good. Good luck to him.

I believe Jordan is a good fighter I trained hard for the fight against him gave it all I had and he was pretty sound everywhere and I have been in with good fighters usually with short notice they have me a long time and I trained hard as I could for the fight I believe he will be a lot better then people expect

GalenBadBoyBrown wrote:I believe Jordan is a good fighter I trained hard for the fight against him gave it all I had and he was pretty sound everywhere and I have been in with good fighters usually with short notice they have me a long time and I trained hard as I could for the fight I believe he will be a lot better then people expect

The main complaint is that after he fought you, he took 3 consecutive steps down:

1) Damon Reed, 42 years old, 1-3 in 3 years prior to the fight

2) Damon McCreary, 40 years old, 1-1 in 3 years prior to the fight

3) Jonathan Corn, 40 years old, winless in 14 straight fights

That is not the direction you want to see a prospect heading in.

jujigatame wrote:

GalenBadBoyBrown wrote:I believe Jordan is a good fighter I trained hard for the fight against him gave it all I had and he was pretty sound everywhere and I have been in with good fighters usually with short notice they have me a long time and I trained hard as I could for the fight I believe he will be a lot better then people expect

The main complaint is that after he fought you, he took 3 consecutive steps down:

1) Damon Reed, 42 years old, 1-3 in 3 years prior to the fight

2) Damon McCreary, 40 years old, 1-1 in 3 years prior to the fight

3) Jonathan Corn, 40 years old, winless in 14 straight fights

That is not the direction you want to see a prospect heading in.

Agreed, it that ol Midwest circuit all its doing is going get him ready to get exposed we he steps up.

Let's be completely fair though, matchmaking is incredibly hard especially if they are just looking for a summer stay busy fight. They probably saw Corn was still 20 wins over .500, wasn't a fly in and was approved by Iowa and thought "What the hell?" That's totally understandable if you're just doing it to keep your kid busy and aren't publicizing it like it was a big time fight. Unfortunately they don't do that and brag about how their boxrec rankings move up after a huge KO1 over Corn.

For over a month we tried to get a quality opponent to fight Jordan on the May 31st show in Davenport. The matchmaker and promoter of the show Clint Calkins tried his best but guys continuously backed out of fighting Jordan. In the end the choice was to stay busy and fight Corn or not fight at all. We chose to keep Jordan active even if it meant only going part of 1 round.

As far as claiming the victory over Corn accomplished something great, nobody on our team has done that. Jordan did exactly as we expected and ended the fight quickly. The win did absolutely nothing for Jordan's rankings. His BoxRec rankings remained the same as we expected. Soon I expect Jordan will box on TV where there will be the financial resources to make a bout against a better opponent happen.

In regard to Jordan's last few bouts, Damon Reed was an experienced boxer who although in his 40's had won his previous bout and had gone the distance with James Toney in 2011. In Damon McCreary, Jordan was facing a guy who only had one loss and that was to undefeated contender Deontay Wilder. I believe those were excellent choices at those points in Jordan's career. I can't defend Corn as an opponent except to say (in addition to whas I said above) that he wasn't our first, second, third or even 30th choice. He was the only guy who said yes and then didn't change his mind when the promoter sent him the contract.

Lennox wrote:

ReggieDiggs wrote:I love how active this kid is & how he's being moved. 15 fights in 2 years. Fighting a lot of these 40+ fight journeyman guys for last half dozen or so fights. This is the type of career trajectory blueprint I'd use if I was moving a guy along. This next 12 months should be seeing him fight a undefeated or 1 L prospect or two & a top 15-20 guy towards the end of that period if they stay true to my theoretical blueprint.

Reggie. We are at exactly different ends of the spectrum. You love the way he is being moved. IWBR will not recogonise this type of fighter high in the ratings and discourages mug-fighting. This fighter could easily con his way to a title. There is almost no point in him having these fights. Poor little Federico Catubay gets your thumbs down and this chap is what you would be doing if you were managing. You have things so much the wrong way round.

Lucky for Jordan, IWBR has zero impact on Boxing.

Dennis wrote: In regard to Jordan's last few bouts, Damon Reed was an experienced boxer who although in his 40's had won his previous bout and had gone the distance with James Toney in 2011. In Damon McCreary, Jordan was facing a guy who only had one loss and that was to undefeated contender Deontay Wilder. I believe those were excellent choices at those points in Jordan's career.

Come on now, don't piss on my leg and tell me its raining. Reed and McCreary are awful. McCreary in particular is a 40 year old enormous fat guy who had brief success as a LHW like 13 years ago and now weighs in at 260 and has fought 5 rounds in 4 years.

A quality opponent on Iowa small budget card. Come on lets get real a quality opponent would probably cost money so I think its very difficult. When was the last time Iowa had a meaningful fight. Just saying

You can't argue with what's said above about those opponents. Hopefully we see Jordan step it up a little more than his stablemate Purnell Gates has.

walter5 wrote:You can't argue with what's said above about those opponents. Hopefully we see Jordan step it up a little more than his stablemate Purnell Gates has.

I don't think its the fighters it the fact their not with manager/promoters that can actually get them meaningful fights. But build them up for a one-hitter quitter to cash out on. As long as they with small hall guys these are opponents they going to get until they get fed to someone.

Sad- They might be under the radar at the moment, but there is $1,000,000 behind them in advertising if I want to use it. They were known as the bible to many of the TV companies until I let them go to the IBO on licence. I have turned down three offers of deals so far and am in talks with one that would be a significant difference to the world of boxing.

Some of the guys Jordan has fought have gone against guys recently who have the managers/promoters with big budgets behind them. So they are quality opponents for this stage of Jordan's career with the exception of JJ Corn who was a stay busy opponent when so many others turned down decent money to fight Jordan in Iowa (neutral site).
Damon McCreary - Jordan fought in his 14th fight. Deontay Wilder fought in his 25th fight.
Damon Reed - Jordan fought in his 13th fight. Mark de Mori in his 23rd fight. Deontay Wilder fought in his 17th fight. James Toney in his 82nd fight. Hasim Rahman in his 57th fight.
Galen Brown - Olympian Jason Estrada in his 24th fight. Hasim Rahman, Mariusz Wach, etc.
Matt Greer - Jordan fought in his 11th fight. Andy Ruiz in his 18th fight. Deontay Wilder in his 27th fight. Oscar Rivas in his 8th fight. Denis Boytsov in his 29th fight. James Toney & Kevin Johnson too.

If these opponents were worthy of boxing those guys and many of them were televised fights, then why are they not quality opponents for Jordan? They are good measuring sticks to see where Jordan is at in his career. Jordan has completely dominated all of these guys and has yet to lose any round on more than one judge's scorecard. To win all 43 rounds of his pro career thus far says Jordan is progressing perfectly. The hard work is done in the gym where Jordan has sparred many world champions and top contenders and clearly belongs in that class. Soon enough he will be boxing on bigger shows and everyone will get to see Jordan's true potential.

Dennis wrote:Some of the guys Jordan has fought have gone against guys recently who have the managers/promoters with big budgets behind them. So they are quality opponents for this stage of Jordan's career with the exception of JJ Corn who was a stay busy opponent when so many others turned down decent money to fight Jordan in Iowa (neutral site).
Damon McCreary - Jordan fought in his 14th fight. Deontay Wilder fought in his 25th fight.
Damon Reed - Jordan fought in his 13th fight. Mark de Mori in his 23rd fight. Deontay Wilder fought in his 17th fight. James Toney in his 82nd fight. Hasim Rahman in his 57th fight.
Galen Brown - Olympian Jason Estrada in his 24th fight. Hasim Rahman, Mariusz Wach, etc.
Matt Greer - Jordan fought in his 11th fight. Andy Ruiz in his 18th fight. Deontay Wilder in his 27th fight. Oscar Rivas in his 8th fight. Denis Boytsov in his 29th fight. James Toney & Kevin Johnson too.

If these opponents were worthy of boxing those guys and many of them were televised fights, then why are they not quality opponents for Jordan? They are good measuring sticks to see where Jordan is at in his career. Jordan has completely dominated all of these guys and has yet to lose any round on more than one judge's scorecard. To win all 43 rounds of his pro career thus far says Jordan is progressing perfectly. The hard work is done in the gym where Jordan has sparred many world champions and top contenders and clearly belongs in that class. Soon enough he will be boxing on bigger shows and everyone will get to see Jordan's true potential.

These two things they have in common. They all lost to those guys and their Midwest guys small circuit guys where's the matchups with the other prospects. Or non-Midwest guys. They guys you named are perennial losers.

Lennox wrote:Sad- They might be under the radar at the moment, but there is $1,000,000 behind them in advertising if I want to use it. They were known as the bible to many of the TV companies until I let them go to the IBO on licence. I have turned down three offers of deals so far and am in talks with one that would be a significant difference to the world of boxing.

The iwbr site is yours?

Reggie - Yes