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Best pieces of cornering

Posted: 06 Jun 2014, 14:48
by vargas
You see alot of complaints about cornering with the fighter being told to "just have a go", "get stuck in" etc. But are there any examples of a cornerman giving the fighter a piece of advice that completely turns a fight on its head? Like telling him that his opponent is wide open for the left hook and the fighter going out and executing it.

Re: Best pieces of cornering

Posted: 06 Jun 2014, 15:08
by Anzi
It happens a lot, but most people don't notice, most trainers give out good advice, because you can see more from outside the ring, then in the ring, the problem is that the fighters don't always carry out the instructions or even listen.

Re: Best pieces of cornering

Posted: 06 Jun 2014, 16:28
by Yes We Can
Anzi wrote:It happens a lot, but most people don't notice, most trainers give out good advice, because you can see more from outside the ring, then in the ring, the problem is that the fighters don't always carry out the instructions or even listen.
Correct. It takes a very educated and calm fighter to be able to take on board good advice when the adrenaline is pumping and fatigue setting in.

Re: Best pieces of cornering

Posted: 06 Jun 2014, 18:28
by keithmoonhangover
Dundee in Leonard's corner for Hearns and Hagler. Genius.

Re: Best pieces of cornering

Posted: 06 Jun 2014, 18:39
by Old bones Ian
'HE'S FUCKED' Dennie Mancini to Nigel Benn after the first round against McClellan.

Re: Best pieces of cornering

Posted: 06 Jun 2014, 19:33
by Tomasino
I like Robert McCrakens advice between rounds.

I think 'The Shinfields' give terrible advice between rounds. Always felt bad for Rendall Monroe.

Re: Best pieces of cornering

Posted: 07 Jun 2014, 03:47
by kamicazze
Adam booths advice between rounds is always clinical.

Same with joe Gallagher when he is cornering Crolla. Always sticks to the game plan.

I like Lockett in the corner too.

But it'd only good cornering if the fighter follows it.

I always love the old Calzaghe cornering at the end of round one with Hopkins after being dropped.

Enzo - "let the them go joe"

Joe - "what about the high guard"

Enzo "fornicate the high guard"

Re: Best pieces of cornering

Posted: 07 Jun 2014, 06:43
by Anzi
kamicazze wrote:Adam booths advice between rounds is always clinical.

Same with joe Gallagher when he is cornering Crolla. Always sticks to the game plan.

I like Lockett in the corner too.

But it'd only good cornering if the fighter follows it.

I always love the old Calzaghe cornering at the end of round one with Hopkins after being dropped.

Enzo - "let the them go joe"

Joe - "what about the high guard"

Enzo "eff the high guard"
I remember when Calzaghe fought Hopkins, his dad Enzo in the corner, shouted to Joe " Either you stop him or I will stop you ! " found it funny at the time, Enzo used to go crazy in the corner and swore constantly.

Re: Best pieces of cornering

Posted: 07 Jun 2014, 06:51
by mickey1975
Loved Dean Powell's work when he was handing up to inexperienced trainers. He'd throw them out of the way and tell the fighter straight(in a Wolverhampton accent in the Midlands and a cockney accent in London!).

Re: Best pieces of cornering

Posted: 07 Jun 2014, 06:55
by thepocketrocket
Anzi wrote:
kamicazze wrote:Adam booths advice between rounds is always clinical.

Same with joe Gallagher when he is cornering Crolla. Always sticks to the game plan.

I like Lockett in the corner too.

But it'd only good cornering if the fighter follows it.

I always love the old Calzaghe cornering at the end of round one with Hopkins after being dropped.

Enzo - "let the them go joe"

Joe - "what about the high guard"

Enzo "eff the high guard"
I remember when Calzaghe fought Hopkins, his dad Enzo in the corner, shouted to Joe " Either you stop him or I will stop you ! " found it funny at the time, Enzo used to go crazy in the corner and swore constantly.

Enzo would panic....nothing clear.

Dean Powell's comments during the Hopkins fight were amazing.

Enzo to Joe: Trust me, trust me, trust me!

Dean to Enzo : OK Enzo, let's tell him how to do it

Re: Best pieces of cornering

Posted: 07 Jun 2014, 07:13
by stevedoc
slightly off topic the worst must be pepe correa who was in lennox's corner in a fight i forget who against and lewis comes back to the corner and pepe says forget what we worked on and just knock him out ...stunning tactics there

Re: Best pieces of cornering

Posted: 07 Jun 2014, 07:27
by palooka
I used to like to watch the late Wally Swift doing the corner work. He always seemed very calm and unruffled, organised - even when it was Wally or Tony boxing and things weren't going well.

That cuts man, Williamson is very good as well and I think Gary Lockett is very good now and will improve until he is very highly sought after.

I'm not keen on the grandstanders who enjoy the limelight too much - they seem jealous of the boxer.

Re: Best pieces of cornering

Posted: 07 Jun 2014, 07:56
by handsofstone
I like the Scouse fella Stevenson,he reads a fight superbly and gives clear insructions to his fighters

Re: Best pieces of cornering

Posted: 07 Jun 2014, 08:02
by tear up
Gotta give my old coach a mention Neil fannon keeps his cool in the corner

Re: Best pieces of cornering

Posted: 07 Jun 2014, 10:29
by Bleak
handsofstone wrote:I like the Scouse fella Stevenson,he reads a fight superbly and gives clear insructions to his fighters

Who was the trainer in Holligans corner v Chavez, Shouting and screaming , "gottttttaaaa yooooosssee yyyaaa Jab!

Re: Best pieces of cornering

Posted: 07 Jun 2014, 12:11
by rubberneck
Joe Goosen to Corrales after 2 KDs and a points deduction in the 10th round of the Castillo fight.

"You gotta effing get inside on him now!!!!"

You know what happened next....

Re: Best pieces of cornering

Posted: 07 Jun 2014, 14:26
by manno
rubberneck wrote:Joe Goosen to Corrales after 2 KDs and a points deduction in the 10th round of the Castillo fight.

"You gotta effing get inside on him now!!!!"

You know what happened next....
:TU: shiver up my spine every time I see this clip, it's more his facial expression as he says it.

Re: Best pieces of cornering

Posted: 07 Jun 2014, 14:30
by palooka
Joe Goosen is Joe Pesci cousin for sure

Re: Best pieces of cornering

Posted: 07 Jun 2014, 14:34
by gilgamesh
Nacho Beristain tells Rafael Marquez in between rounds 7 and 8 in the Tim Austin fight, something along the lines of : "I don't know what you're doing, we didn't train to fight him like this. This is for the Championship, you have to be more aggressive. I don't know what's going on with you"

...Rafael Marquez knocked out Tim Austin in the 8th round, and Round 8 was exciting as f*ck while the first 7 rounds were very slow, tedious and tactical. The fight turned as dramatically in 1 round as I've ever seen a fight turn.

Rafael Marquez vs Tim Austin: Nacho Beristain's corner work, specifically in the key moment I mentioned.

Re: Best pieces of cornering

Posted: 07 Jun 2014, 16:59
by Anzi
How about Chris Eubank sr tonight in his son's corner, or not, stood posing in his posh attire, near the centre of the ring and not saying anything to his son, just posing like someone. from Madonna's vogue video.

Re: Best pieces of cornering

Posted: 07 Jun 2014, 17:04
by n1ebf
Anzi wrote:How about Chris Eubank sr tonight in his son's corner, or not, stood posing in his posh attire, near the centre of the ring and not saying anything to his son, just posing like someone. from Madonna's vogue video.
specifically checked out this thread as I thought I might find this! Ain't seen it myself yet. Hadn't realised Eubank was a Second, he's previously been at ringside.

Re: Best pieces of cornering

Posted: 07 Jun 2014, 17:28
by gb
I was amazed at how calm McCracken was in the first Groves fight. Funnily enough, he seemed more wound up in the rematch. Joe Calzaghe always seemed very good at adapting in the ring - maybe he'd have been better doing his own corner! The Mancini comment is a jaffa!

Re: Best pieces of cornering

Posted: 08 Jun 2014, 11:11
by Vincent stevenson
Bleak wrote:
handsofstone wrote:I like the Scouse fella Stevenson,he reads a fight superbly and gives clear insructions to his fighters

Who was the trainer in Holligans corner v Chavez, Shouting and screaming , "gottttttaaaa yooooosssee yyyaaa Jab!
Colin moorecroft I think

Re: Best pieces of cornering

Posted: 08 Jun 2014, 11:48
by Coco
I remember going into the last round of an amateur fight being told 'he is more f#cked than you are!'

Re: Best pieces of cornering

Posted: 08 Jun 2014, 11:53
by stevedoc
Coco wrote:I remember going into the last round of an amateur fight being told 'he is more f#cked than you are!'
i was told in between the 1st and 2nd rounds stop fornicating trying to pace yourself and just hit the pudendum ,i'd lost the first be all accounts .