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Warren's show, 26th july

Posted: 22 Jul 2014, 07:33
by danal2
Dissapointed about the main fight but there are some good fights, in particular Catterall v Brough and the Saunders fight

Re: Warren's show, 26th july

Posted: 22 Jul 2014, 09:26
by ste1983
Mugsy wrote:Liam Smith/BJS vs Latvians.
Liam Smith is defending his British Light Middleweight title against current Midlands Area champion and former contender for the British Welterweight title Jason Welborn.

Billy Joe Saunders takes on the undefeated Italian Emanuele Blandamura for the vacant European Middleweight title.

Re: Warren's show, 26th july

Posted: 22 Jul 2014, 09:28
by Floatlikeabutterfly
Definately think Catterall-Brough will be a cracker, 2 good unbeaten lads.

Re: Warren's show, 26th july

Posted: 22 Jul 2014, 12:48
by expe
Mugsy wrote:
ste1983 wrote:
Mugsy wrote:Liam Smith/BJS vs Latvians.
Liam Smith is defending his British Light Middleweight title against current Midlands Area champion and former contender for the British Welterweight title Jason Welborn.

Billy Joe Saunders takes on the undefeated Italian Emanuele Blandamura for the vacant European Middleweight title.
Jason Welbourn the bloke even Liam Smith said was poo. Midlands Area Champion.

Oh an Italian instead of a Latvian my mistake, well that justifies the ticket pricing alone!
If you don't like the prices don't pay them. Personally I think that at normal ticket prices I'd struggle to find a better show in the country this year.

Re: Warren's show, 26th july

Posted: 22 Jul 2014, 12:53
by WelshJack
Don't mention Flanagan v Geithin or Heffron v Williams haha.

Re: Warren's show, 26th july

Posted: 22 Jul 2014, 16:11
by handsofstone
I cant wait for Saturdays show some great fights

Chisora/Fury for the European and British HW belts as well as being a world title eliminator
Mathews/Flanagan for the British LW title
Smith/Mansouri for the British LMW title
Sykes/Walsh British/Commonwealth SFW unification fight

Have i missed any :D #


Joking of course,shite happens,probably still one of the best shows this year in Britain

Re: Warren's show, 26th july

Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 05:09
by Counter-puncher
ste1983 wrote:
Mugsy wrote:Liam Smith/BJS vs Latvians.
Liam Smith is defending his British Light Middleweight title against current Midlands Area champion and former contender for the British Welterweight title Jason Welborn.

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that's an atrocious match

Re: Warren's show, 26th july

Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 05:20
by freddydoesdallas
Counter-puncher wrote:
ste1983 wrote:
Mugsy wrote:Liam Smith/BJS vs Latvians.
Liam Smith is defending his British Light Middleweight title against current Midlands Area champion and former contender for the British Welterweight title Jason Welborn.

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that's an atrocious match
Welborn was a beast at welter but had very limited boxing skills so looked good winning the midlands title but that level is his absolute limit. Since he loses a lot of his size advantage at LM, he's even less effective

Re: Warren's show, 26th july

Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 05:42
by Counter-puncher
exactly mate

Re: Warren's show, 26th july

Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 05:47
by ste1983
Counter-puncher wrote:
ste1983 wrote:
Mugsy wrote:Liam Smith/BJS vs Latvians.
Liam Smith is defending his British Light Middleweight title against current Midlands Area champion and former contender for the British Welterweight title Jason Welborn.

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that's an atrocious match
I wouldn't go that far granted its a match I don't see Welborn winning but my point was he's a 'live' opponent it aint some latvian journeyman that the original poster suggested. Welborn won an eliminator for the British and after Mansouri pulled out really was towards the top end of the posisble opponents.

Its still more of a competitive match than 99% of that last Matchroom card.

Re: Warren's show, 26th july

Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 05:50
by Counter-puncher
ste1983 wrote:
I wouldn't go that far granted its a match I don't see Welborn winning but my point was he's a 'live' opponent it aint some latvian journeyman that the original poster suggested. Welborn won an eliminator for the British and after Mansouri pulled out really was towards the top end of the posisble opponents.

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fair do's i jumped the gun before realising he was a late-ish replacement. not sure beating a 15-15-6 Carruthers qualifies as an eliminator though?

Re: Warren's show, 26th july

Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 06:02
by ste1983
Counter-puncher wrote:
ste1983 wrote:
I wouldn't go that far granted its a match I don't see Welborn winning but my point was he's a 'live' opponent it aint some latvian journeyman that the original poster suggested. Welborn won an eliminator for the British and after Mansouri pulled out really was towards the top end of the posisble opponents.

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fair do's i jumped the gun before realising he was a late-ish replacement. not sure beating a 15-15-6 Carruthers qualifies as an eliminator though?
Carruthers' record doesn't do him any justice at all to be honest. Don't forget Carruthers beat Nav Mansouri (who should have been the challenger) and drew with Liam Smith (the champion).

I was at the Welborn/Carruthers fight and in fairness (which probably adds more sway to your argument than mine) it was a very evenly matched fight. Carruthers out worked Welborn for a lot of the early rounds. However Welborn looked the stronger as the fight went on. He did seem to be turning it around when he got the stoppage (round 8) on cuts but if not for the cuts I had it heading for a draw (and that was based on Welborn winning the last 3 rounds). Cracking fight mind.

Re: Warren's show, 26th july

Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 06:19
by Counter-puncher
ha, i knew the 'Carruther's record doesn't tell the whole story' argument would come out :wink:

this might be too simplistic but i look at it this way, if Carruthers wouldn't make a good challenger for the british title (i don't believe he would, no offence to the guy) then why should beating him make Welborn one?

Re: Warren's show, 26th july

Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 06:22
by Datsue
Counter-puncher wrote:ha, i knew the 'Carruther's record doesn't tell the whole story' argument would come out :wink:

this might be too simplistic but i look at it this way, if Carruthers wouldn't make a good challenger for the british title (i don't believe he would, no offence to the guy) then why should beating him make Welborn one?

:shame:

Don't you go around applying logic to things, mush. We'll be questioning all sorts of shite if you keep that up...

Re: Warren's show, 26th july

Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 06:22
by Counter-puncher
i admit i am being a bit harsh on a last-minute replacement. we've all seen a lot worse :TU:

Re: Warren's show, 26th july

Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 06:38
by ste1983
Counter-puncher wrote:ha, i knew the 'Carruther's record doesn't tell the whole story' argument would come out :wink:

this might be too simplistic but i look at it this way, if Carruthers wouldn't make a good challenger for the british title (i don't believe he would, no offence to the guy) then why should beating him make Welborn one?
I know what your saying and you do have a point would have been fine with the Carruthers/Welborn fight being for just for the Midlands. Would point out though that it was an 'eliminator' not 'final eliminator' so in theory lets say Carruthers beat Welborn in that eliminator he would have likely faced someone like Mansouri in a 'final eliminator'.

Its worth noting if your applying that logic if you think Carruthers wouldn't have made a good challenger for the British title what do you feel about the champion? After all they fought to a draw. also did you think Mansouri was good challenger out of interest? Afterall Carruthers beat him.

Re: Warren's show, 26th july

Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 06:48
by Counter-puncher
ste1983 wrote:
Counter-puncher wrote:ha, i knew the 'Carruther's record doesn't tell the whole story' argument would come out :wink:

this might be too simplistic but i look at it this way, if Carruthers wouldn't make a good challenger for the british title (i don't believe he would, no offence to the guy) then why should beating him make Welborn one?
I know what your saying and you do have a point would have been fine with the Carruthers/Welborn fight being for just for the Midlands. Would point out though that it was an 'eliminator' not 'final eliminator' so in theory lets say Carruthers beat Welborn in that eliminator he would have likely faced someone like Mansouri in a 'final eliminator'.

Its worth noting if your applying that logic if you think Carruthers wouldn't have made a good challenger for the British title what do you feel about the champion? After all they fought to a draw. also did you think Mansouri was good challenger out of interest? Afterall Carruthers beat him.
I know what your saying and you do have a point would have been fine with the Carruthers/Welborn fight being for just for the Midlands. Would point out though that it was an 'eliminator' not 'final eliminator' so in theory lets say Carruthers beat Welborn in that eliminator he would have likely faced someone like Mansouri in a 'final eliminator'.

fair do's

Its worth noting if your applying that logic if you think Carruthers wouldn't have made a good challenger for the British title what do you feel about the champion? After all they fought to a draw. also did you think Mansouri was good challenger out of interest?

probably the less said, the better :TU:

Re: Warren's show, 26th july

Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 07:16
by black panther
Let's be honest it's a damned good card; miles better than anything fast eddie has served up in recent memory.

And it's not PPV!

Re: Warren's show, 26th july

Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 07:49
by TheGoods
Who is Brad boxing?

Re: Warren's show, 26th july

Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 07:57
by kev788
black panther wrote:Let's be honest it's a damned good card; miles better than anything fast eddie has served up in recent memory.

And it's not PPV!
Much agreed :bag:

Re: Warren's show, 26th july

Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 08:01
by mickey1975
TheGoods wrote:Who is Brad boxing?
I don't think he is, mush.

Re: Warren's show, 26th july

Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 10:02
by jackukmma
Was a good card. It has a few ok fights on now but lets be fair its a copperbox card without a main event and the rest of the injury pull outs.

Re: Warren's show, 26th july

Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 10:18
by broomy7s
Only thing i'm dissapointed in is it doesn't start till 7pm on allegedly. Not going to get to see all the fights.

Re: Warren's show, 26th july

Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 11:02
by handsofstone
broomy7s wrote:Only thing i'm dissapointed in is it doesn't start till 7pm on allegedly. Not going to get to see all the fights.
It was supposed to be starting at 7 but after Chisora pull out I read on allegedly site its a half 8 start now,I hope not

Re: Warren's show, 26th july

Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 11:09
by tony1234
broomy7s wrote:Only thing i'm dissapointed in is it doesn't start till 7pm on allegedly. Not going to get to see all the fights.
I can't see any reason why they can't show the entire bill live, it's his channel and only old repeats on there so it would be nice to sit and watch the lot