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Hall - Cabellero IBF Title

Posted: 22 Jul 2014, 14:48
by Manchester Hitman
Dennis Hobson has outbid Golden Boy for the fight... :TU:

http://ringtv.craveonline.com/news/3486 ... itle-fight

Re: Hall - Cabellero IBF Title

Posted: 22 Jul 2014, 15:38
by JimJim2009
Well done Dennis, that is some serious spending :TU:

Re: Hall - Cabellero IBF Title

Posted: 22 Jul 2014, 15:43
by Black Sam Bellamy
"There were two bidders, Dennis Hobson Promotions and Golden Boy Promotions. Dennis Hobson Promotions bid $261,750.00 and Golden Boy Promotions bid $ 127,000.00."

You'd have to think Hobson has paid well over the odds for the priviledge.

Re: Hall - Cabellero IBF Title

Posted: 22 Jul 2014, 16:28
by Andrew
Should be a good fight based in his last fight Caballero is not amazing but likes to mix it too much that could play to Halls advantage.

Also hopefully. Bradley Saunders has a significant step up on this one too.

Re: Hall - Cabellero IBF Title

Posted: 22 Jul 2014, 16:36
by maninthemiddle
This fella backs his fighters like no other. Neither of his last few World Title shows appeared to be sell outs, but time and again he gets his fighters home advantage, and even when things might not look to be selling that well never seems to pull the plug.

Re: Hall - Cabellero IBF Title

Posted: 22 Jul 2014, 16:41
by DMA1987
Well played Dennis. Got to respect the guy, he will be a bit gutted when he sees the GB bid though I'm sure.

Re: Hall - Cabellero IBF Title

Posted: 22 Jul 2014, 17:46
by expe
DMA1987 wrote:Well played Dennis. Got to respect the guy, he will be a bit gutted when he sees the GB bid though I'm sure.
I don't think he's in boxing for the money to be fair, I'm sure he won't want to lose any but I don't think anyone could have predicted Golden Boy offering that kind of money. £37,000 each is derisory for a world title, obviously Golden Boy thought they could get it on the cheap.

Re: Hall - Cabellero IBF Title

Posted: 22 Jul 2014, 17:57
by DMA1987
expe wrote:
DMA1987 wrote:Well played Dennis. Got to respect the guy, he will be a bit gutted when he sees the GB bid though I'm sure.
I don't think he's in boxing for the money to be fair, I'm sure he won't want to lose any but I don't think anyone could have predicted Golden Boy offering that kind of money. £37,000 each is derisory for a world title, obviously Golden Boy thought they could get it on the cheap.
No doubt, and he couldn't have imagined that GB's offer would be so low, but he more than doubled it. Nobody feels good about paying 100k more than they needed to.

And that's not a dig, I like Dennis, have a lot of time for him.

Re: Hall - Cabellero IBF Title

Posted: 22 Jul 2014, 18:09
by Boxerbeetle
maninthemiddle wrote:This fella backs his fighters like no other. Neither of his last few World Title shows appeared to be sell outs, but time and again he gets his fighters home advantage, and even when things might not look to be selling that well never seems to pull the plug.
Agreed. Hobson is absolute quality, the only current promoter who genuinely seems to have his fighters' interests at heart. Jamie McD must surely be wondering whether he made the right decision in jumping ship by now.

Re: Hall - Cabellero IBF Title

Posted: 22 Jul 2014, 19:31
by jameswilson
Anyone feeling the need for an expe 'let me draw up a financial plan for you!' moment where he runs through how much each guy will actually get after deductions?

Re: Hall - Cabellero IBF Title

Posted: 22 Jul 2014, 20:04
by expe
jameswilson wrote:Anyone feeling the need for an expe 'let me draw up a financial plan for you!' moment where he runs through how much each guy will actually get after deductions?
Called currency converter, then divide by two, smartarse

Re: Hall - Cabellero IBF Title

Posted: 22 Jul 2014, 21:47
by Tomasino
jameswilson wrote:Anyone feeling the need for an expe 'let me draw up a financial plan for you!' moment where he runs through how much each guy will actually get after deductions?

:lol: :lol:


Im sick of those posts aswell!

Re: Hall - Cabellero IBF Title

Posted: 22 Jul 2014, 23:44
by Boxing Prospect
Second time GBP has low balled a purse bid, they did the same for the IBF Flywright title

Re: Hall - Cabellero IBF Title

Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 03:51
by Counter-puncher
Black Sam Bellamy wrote:"There were two bidders, Dennis Hobson Promotions and Golden Boy Promotions. Dennis Hobson Promotions bid $261,750.00 and Golden Boy Promotions bid $ 127,000.00."

You'd have to think Hobson has paid well over the odds for the priviledge.
fvcking hell

Re: Hall - Cabellero IBF Title

Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 05:09
by ste1983
Fair play to Hobson for pulling out all the stops and getting his man home advantage.

When does Brook travel to fight Porter again? :OhYes:

Re: Hall - Cabellero IBF Title

Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 07:37
by Andrew
ste1983 wrote:Fair play to Hobson for pulling out all the stops and getting his man home advantage.

When does Brook travel to fight Porter again? :OhYes:
This is for a vacant title.

Re: Hall - Cabellero IBF Title

Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 07:50
by Lenny
I have to admit, this IBF bantamweight title malarkey is all a bit confusing? How is Hall getting another shot? Are they happy as a fringe belt?

Re: Hall - Cabellero IBF Title

Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 07:56
by crusader
Lenny wrote:I have to admit, this IBF bantamweight title malarkey is all a bit confusing? How is Hall getting another shot? Are they happy as a fringe belt?
The IBF, perhaps more than the WBA/WBC/WBO, recycles challengers. The most notable instance of this for me was a few years ago when the 130 belt was passed around between the same few South Africans, who seemed to always be in fights for the title or eliminators for it.

Vusi Malinga, whom Hall beat to win the vacant title, also lost nearly every round when challenging for it about a year before against Leo Santa Cruz.

Re: Hall - Cabellero IBF Title

Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 10:26
by davie
Lenny wrote:I have to admit, this IBF bantamweight title malarkey is all a bit confusing? How is Hall getting another shot? Are they happy as a fringe belt?

My first thought when I spotted this story was...."F*CK RIGHT OFF!"

When McDonnell got stripped, a guy on page 2 of boxrecs bantamweight rankings fought a guy on page 3 of boxrecs bantamweight rankings

then in his first defense, we see British no2 bantam vs British no5 bantam, in a fight barely worth of the Lonsdale strap. Which results in a draw

then he loses his title to a 15 fight novice super flyweight (all the while avoiding facing Jamie McDonnell and more importantly Lee Haskins who has beaten all the top British bantams)

now that butler has relinquished the title to go back down to his strongest weight, Hall gets another shot at a vacant title,

despite having a record of 0-1-1 defending the crown, Hall could go on to be a 2-time world champion with out ever having faced a title holder if he beats Caballero?

I'm all for supporting British boxers but this is an absolute fornicating joke

and don't give me "that's just the boxing is, with corrupt rankings and dodgy alphabet belts".
this debacle is an absolute embarrassment and far worse than the standard jiggery pokerry that goes on for world titles these days

Haskins and McDonnell must be sick seeing this, not to mention the guys ranked top ten in the world that are not getting the shots

Re: Hall - Cabellero IBF Title

Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 10:46
by Counter-puncher
nice rant :TU:

Re: Hall - Cabellero IBF Title

Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 10:52
by tear up
Great news for stu big well done all around gettin him a very good pay made up for him good luck stuy

Re: Hall - Cabellero IBF Title

Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 11:29
by whiskey
Fair play to Dennis there.

Quite a low ball offer from GBP considering it was a world title fight.

Perhaps Stuey is on a fixed fee, but Dennis still has to carve out a fat percentage of that $260k to Cabellero.

Re: Hall - Cabellero IBF Title

Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 12:14
by bripez
davie wrote:
Lenny wrote:I have to admit, this IBF bantamweight title malarkey is all a bit confusing? How is Hall getting another shot? Are they happy as a fringe belt?

My first thought when I spotted this story was...."F*CK RIGHT OFF!"

When McDonnell got stripped, a guy on page 2 of boxrecs bantamweight rankings fought a guy on page 3 of boxrecs bantamweight rankings

then in his first defense, we see British no2 bantam vs British no5 bantam, in a fight barely worth of the Lonsdale strap. Which results in a draw

then he loses his title to a 15 fight novice super flyweight (all the while avoiding facing Jamie McDonnell and more importantly Lee Haskins who has beaten all the top British bantams)

now that butler has relinquished the title to go back down to his strongest weight, Hall gets another shot at a vacant title,

despite having a record of 0-1-1 defending the crown, Hall could go on to be a 2-time world champion with out ever having faced a title holder if he beats Caballero?

I'm all for supporting British boxers but this is an absolute effing joke

and don't give me "that's just the boxing is, with corrupt rankings and dodgy alphabet belts".
this debacle is an absolute embarrassment and far worse than the standard jiggery pokerry that goes on for world titles these days

Haskins and McDonnell must be sick seeing this, not to mention the guys ranked top ten in the world that are not getting the shots
I agree completely.

Ironically, Haskins is one of the few Brits not to challenge for this title (despite the fact the fact that he has beaten Hall, McDonnel and Ward) !

Re: Hall - Cabellero IBF Title

Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 12:45
by Datsue
Someone certainly has been thinking along similar lines...

http://news.boxrec.com/2014/full-nelson ... st-haskins

Re: Hall - Cabellero IBF Title

Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 13:44
by Lenny
davie wrote:
Lenny wrote:I have to admit, this IBF bantamweight title malarkey is all a bit confusing? How is Hall getting another shot? Are they happy as a fringe belt?

My first thought when I spotted this story was...."F*CK RIGHT OFF!"

When McDonnell got stripped, a guy on page 2 of boxrecs bantamweight rankings fought a guy on page 3 of boxrecs bantamweight rankings

then in his first defense, we see British no2 bantam vs British no5 bantam, in a fight barely worth of the Lonsdale strap. Which results in a draw

then he loses his title to a 15 fight novice super flyweight (all the while avoiding facing Jamie McDonnell and more importantly Lee Haskins who has beaten all the top British bantams)

now that butler has relinquished the title to go back down to his strongest weight, Hall gets another shot at a vacant title,

despite having a record of 0-1-1 defending the crown, Hall could go on to be a 2-time world champion with out ever having faced a title holder if he beats Caballero?

I'm all for supporting British boxers but this is an absolute effing joke

and don't give me "that's just the boxing is, with corrupt rankings and dodgy alphabet belts".
this debacle is an absolute embarrassment and far worse than the standard jiggery pokerry that goes on for world titles these days

Haskins and McDonnell must be sick seeing this, not to mention the guys ranked top ten in the world that are not getting the shots
:bow: