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Chaves DQ appropriate?

Posted: 04 Aug 2014, 12:22
by Tarkus
I see some people are trying to justify DQ. I thought the first guy who should have been disqualified was Drakulich who did not know what he was doing and sucked the blood out of the fight.

Re: Chaves DQ appropriate?

Posted: 04 Aug 2014, 12:45
by chucktaylor
No way was it fair or appropriate. It was a rough fight with some fouls committed by each fighter, but it wasn't really that egregious, especially considering the high pace and intensity of the match. Some hard warnings followed by a penalty or two wouldn't have been controversial, but the DQ was over the top. We would have a lot more DQs if every fight was officiated in this manner.
I'm sure that Drakulich was within his rights under the official rules, but precedent is important when it comes to enforcing the rules as well. We shouldn't have some fights held to a much stricter standard of officiating than others.

Re: Chaves DQ appropriate?

Posted: 04 Aug 2014, 13:00
by world ranked
People giving Drakulich shiite. I think anyone ref that fight would have had problems. Was he justified yes should he done it no. I don't have a problem with it though so I voted yes.

Re: Chaves DQ appropriate?

Posted: 04 Aug 2014, 13:10
by pugilisticprofessor
Vic acted on the words of Rios not because he seen anything illegal at the time of DQ, Rios knew that Chaves had 2 points taken and one more warning would win him the fight, a fight that he knew he could be losing, if he didn't know the previous warnings he wouldn't have started screaming at Chaves, it was a BS call.

Re: Chaves DQ appropriate?

Posted: 04 Aug 2014, 14:17
by uptconnect
It was foul filled fight where a competent referee could have handled and managed it much more effectively.
A DQ was not totally unwarranted, but Dick Dracula is just terrible at his job, so the DQ and how he handled the whole fight leading up to the DQ was kind of a joke.

Chavez was frustrating the hell out of Brandon by boxing from outside, and holding and roughing him up inside, so seeing Rios go bonkers about being tied and roughed up was worth a chuckle, at the very least.

Brandon will make for a good gate keeper. Limited but very tough and determined.

Re: Chaves DQ appropriate?

Posted: 04 Aug 2014, 16:40
by TheBeast
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Full Rios vs Chaves Card Hls & Hls from Kovalev & the heavyweight fight on the undercard here for those who missed it:
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Re: Chaves DQ appropriate?

Posted: 04 Aug 2014, 16:41
by TheBeast
It's boxing, i don't think the fouls were THAT bad to prevent us from seeing the fight end like fans wanted... disapointed

Re: Chaves DQ appropriate?

Posted: 04 Aug 2014, 18:27
by Lackeos
Obviously Rios was scripted to win, and Drakulich didn't want to spoil the predetermined outcome. Gotta spoon-feed wins to the guy who was being forced into the role of a main attraction for the last four years, even though he ain't sh*t as a fighter.

Re: Chaves DQ appropriate?

Posted: 04 Aug 2014, 20:32
by Datsue
uptconnect wrote:It was foul filled fight where a competent referee could have handled and managed it much more effectively.
A DQ was not totally unwarranted, but Dick Dracula is just terrible at his job, so the DQ and how he handled the whole fight leading up to the DQ was kind of a joke.

Chavez was frustrating the hell out of Brandon by boxing from outside, and holding and roughing him up inside, so seeing Rios go bonkers about being tied and roughed up was worth a chuckle, at the very least.

Brandon will make for a good gate keeper. Limited but very tough and determined.

Good post. I was glad I watched it, though, because it's the only fight I've ever seen where someone got disqualified for being called a "Motherfucker".

Re: Chaves DQ appropriate?

Posted: 05 Aug 2014, 11:09
by jujigatame
If Rios was telling the truth and Chaves was really raking his eyes in that headlock, then it was absolutely justified. I was actually kind of surprised Chaves didn't get another deduction or DQ a little earlier in the round when he turned a front headlock into a judo throw.

Drakulich definitely made a hash of the fight by throwing point deductions around very quickly though.

Re: Chaves DQ appropriate?

Posted: 05 Aug 2014, 12:58
by sucracristo
i don't have any problem with a fight like that ending in dq.
just because it doesn't happen often doesn't mean it shouldn't happen more.
even if you think drak is rogue or a loose cannon or whatever, it's a good thing
for boxing to keep boxers thinking about being dq'd for not following the rules and
there was more than enough shit in that fight to warrant a dq. if you are dq'd you
should have all or a portion of your pay withheld, too. bending at the waist
and turning the back toward the opponent (ishe smith v molina was painful) is another
one of the most popular things to do these days celebrated as "great defense" that
should earn a dq after 2 warnings. rigondeaux does it a lot, too. ward should at least
have points taken away regularly for what he does.
chaves could have won that fight, but at the same time it was annoying as hell
watching what he was doing. rios doesn't have great technique but his infractions
were less obviously intentional. chaves was affecting the flow of the fight and it was
too blatant. a lot of this drak hate is spillover from people's rios hate.

Re: Chaves DQ appropriate?

Posted: 05 Aug 2014, 17:34
by HeavyHitters
If you're gonna fight dirty and break the rules, instead of fight like a professional boxer should, you should be DQ'ed and shamed on national TV. Good job Drak!!

:bag: :bag: :bag: :box: :bag: :bag: :bag:

Re: Chaves DQ appropriate?

Posted: 05 Aug 2014, 17:41
by Zhuge
pugilisticprofessor wrote:Vic acted on the words of Rios not because he seen anything illegal at the time of DQ, Rios knew that Chaves had 2 points taken and one more warning would win him the fight, a fight that he knew he could be losing, if he didn't know the previous warnings he wouldn't have started screaming at Chaves, it was a BS call.
Exactly. Rios knew if he belly ached enough, he could scratch out a win in a close fight by DQ. He can stomp around and moan about not wanting to win "that way" but he was the one that threw a fit and acted as if he was getting clawed in the eyes even though there was no evidence of that.