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Hopkins defeated Kovalev? This being that he would pretty much be 50 years of age and Kovalev has looked great in all of his fights upto now and is widely seen as possibly/probably the best guy in the division now and a more dangerous threat than Pavlik? For me it would be an astonishing win and really would make you question if the guy is human *dont take that literally*

Any wins by BHop at his age are incredible. This fight does not define his legacy, but does show he has more guts than most of the current champions at all weights combined. Kovalev, GGG, Wilder are good examples of devastating punchers that have not been tested against elite fighters yet. They may all turn out to be the best at their weight by a good margin.

Badhusker wrote:Any wins by BHop at his age are incredible. This fight does not define his legacy, but does show he has more guts than most of the current champions at all weights combined. Kovalev, GGG, Wilder are good examples of devastating punchers that have not been tested against elite fighters yet. They may all turn out to be the best at their weight by a good margin.

Oh dont get me wrong I dont think his legacy will be damaged if he lost this fight but if he won it, it truely would be an amazing feat I think.

columbo wrote:

Badhusker wrote:Any wins by BHop at his age are incredible. This fight does not define his legacy, but does show he has more guts than most of the current champions at all weights combined. Kovalev, GGG, Wilder are good examples of devastating punchers that have not been tested against elite fighters yet. They may all turn out to be the best at their weight by a good margin.

Oh dont get me wrong I dont think his legacy will be damaged if he lost this fight but if he won it, it truely would be an amazing feat I think.

One of the most truly amazing feats in recent history, for sure. BHop needs to teach these young guys how to grow a pair.

if Bernard wins it'll be an ugly, largely unentertaining fight.

if he wins, would he fight stevenson or retire?
he could unify all 4 majors at 50.
no matter how he did that, by hook or crook, imo he would deserve his own room in the hof

Bernard has already achieved so much, and has done things in boxing that no one else has, therefore there's very little that could diminish what he's accomplished.
Even if he got KOd on one punch everytime he fights from here on out, it won't tarnish a thing.
He's f*cking 50. He should be getting KOd.


There's no downside for Bernard in fighting any top fighters at this point. He's playing with house money.

uptconnect wrote:Bernard has already achieved so much, and has done things in boxing that no one else has, therefore there's very little that could diminish what he's accomplished.
Even if he got KOd on one punch everytime he fights from here on out, it won't tarnish a thing.
He's f*cking 50. He should be getting KOd.


There's no downside for Bernard in fighting any top fighters at this point. He's playing with house money.

This.

yeah no downside legacy wise, but he could get permanently injured.

fanman wrote:yeah no downside legacy wise, but he could get permanently injured.

Of course. Anyone can. My point was simply legacy based.

If he beats this animal at 50 yrs old it will be nothing short of absolutely incredible and I wont care how he pulls it off.

diddy wrote:If he beats this animal at 50 yrs old it will be nothing short of absolutely incredible and I wont care how he pulls it off.

Thats how i feel.

Kovalev is more dangerous then Pavlik, Kopkins had a good win against Shumenov, but looked bad with Murat when he had to exchange heavy punches he did not look good, if he will exchange with kovalev the way he did with Murat he will definatly loose, the fact that he lost to Calzaghe and Dawson while calling him self an alian proves that his not a real alian like he really acts, but just another fighter with good fighting skills while running around the ring a lot,

I predict Kovalev beating hopkins not sure if its going to be a knock out or a decision but kovalev will beat him

but if he does beat kovalev then that would definatly be the biggest win of his career.

I will believe it when I see them touch gloves at the first bell. There is a long way to go before this actually takes place.

If it does take place however and Hopkins manages a genuine win (not some stitch up job on the scoring) then it will be a truly remarkable feat.

If it does take place however and Hopkins manages a genuine win (not some stitch up job on the scoring) then it will be a truly remarkable feat.

It's truly remarkable that he's even able to compete with the top fighters in the weight range, at his advanced age.
Every time he fights at the top level, at an even older age than the time before, it's remarkable. Literally.
With his generally boring, energy conserving style aside- it's always a pleasure to see an old man out-think and to technically wreck the styles of younger opponents.

I don't know if he'll beat Kovalev, but I'll enjoy watching him try.
(As long as Nard doesn't break out those old man flopping shennanigans we've occasionally seen haha)

X win over K regardless how he does it, would be the biggest upset in boxing history.


I mean buster douglus tyson was big, but buster wasnt 50 and tyson was partying all the time and had everything but training for boxing in the head.
also buster was like 12 secondes in the canvas and normaly it should have been ruled KO win for tyson.

Chepppaaa wrote:X win over K regardless how he does it, would be the biggest upset in boxing history.


I mean buster douglus tyson was big, but buster wasnt 50 and tyson was partying all the time and had everything but training for boxing in the head.
also buster was like 12 secondes in the canvas and normaly it should have been ruled KO win for tyson.

i don't think you can compare the two fights , hopkins is a reigning world champ where as douglas was a unfancied challenger plus kovalev is untested against elite fighters , i still see krusher as an exciting prospect rather than an established champ . if hopkins pulls of the win it would be an amazing victory for him but not as big as douglas beating tyson.

stevedoc wrote:

Chepppaaa wrote:X win over K regardless how he does it, would be the biggest upset in boxing history.


I mean buster douglus tyson was big, but buster wasnt 50 and tyson was partying all the time and had everything but training for boxing in the head.
also buster was like 12 secondes in the canvas and normaly it should have been ruled KO win for tyson.

i don't think you can compare the two fights , hopkins is a reigning world champ where as douglas was a unfancied challenger plus kovalev is untested against elite fighters , i still see krusher as an exciting prospect rather than an established champ . if hopkins pulls of the win it would be an amazing victory for him but not as big as douglas beating tyson.

as u know, I dont go by record. rigo didnt have to beat an elite fighter before the donaire fight, for me to know that rigo was much better than donaire (who was tested against elite fighters).

kovalev is an atg in terms of physical ability and power. X will 99 % lose thisfight, not nessecerly sayn by ko or TKO, but X will run from K punches and get tagged on the ropes and lose energy at the second half of the fight and than willlose UD or late round tko. I mean everyting is against X. age, power. only technic X is better, but normaly is not enough.

if X won that, against arguably the hardest puncher in the whole world. I mean, its like a 50 year old beatin a young julian jackson, that shit doesnt happen normaly.

the bookies have hopkins '2-1 not massive odds and they don't get it wrong that many times ,stylisticly hopkins has a good chance here kovalev will come straight at him as he likes it .while i think kovalev will win i don't see this as onesided

stevedoc wrote:the bookies have hopkins '2-1 not massive odds and they don't get it wrong that many times ,stylisticly hopkins has a good chance here kovalev will come straight at him as he likes it .while i think kovalev will win i don't see this as onesided

dont talk nonsense. taylor came at him, joe came at him, chad came at him. no, X doesnt like when strong energitic punchers come at him, because he often losses than.

kov is technicly sound and is the strongest puncher that X ever faced and this fight is all wrong for X and the bookies no 000000000

Chepppaaa wrote:

stevedoc wrote:the bookies have hopkins '2-1 not massive odds and they don't get it wrong that many times ,stylisticly hopkins has a good chance here kovalev will come straight at him as he likes it .while i think kovalev will win i don't see this as onesided

dont talk nonsense. taylor came at him, joe came at him, chad came at him. no, X doesnt like when strong energitic punchers come at him, because he often losses than.

kov is technicly sound and is the strongest puncher that X ever faced and this fight is all wrong for X and the bookies no 000000000

i take it you will be betting everything you own on this then if the bookies no 0000000000000, or else it's just all talk no action

If Hopkins beats Kovalev, it's his best win imo - because never have i had him such an underdog going in.

If he beats Kovalev and Stevenson, he'll have unified all four major belts in TWO weight classes.

He'd have to be a top 20 ATG.

It would be just another notch (and another belt) for Hopkins.

He's already accomplished so many great things in boxing, future boxing fanatics will look back at this as just another routine Hopkins victory.
And besides, when Kovalev goes down, current fans, suddenly enlightened, will just shrug and say "So what? Who did Kovalev ever beat?"
Wisdom comes with age.

Anytime anyone beats a top guy in a division it enhances their rep. Bhop at his age defeating a top guy becomes closer to being a Paul Bunyon type mfer in boxing history if he hasn't already attained that status.