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Boxing fans, wake up. Look how primitive we are. No, I'm not talking about the fact that we find huge joy in the technical aspects of the men knocking each other's health away, I'm talking about HOW we find that huge joy in doing it.

There is so much racism and nationalism and so many accusations of it. Who even cares if a boxer is black or white or Philipino?
The best boxers ever have been black, like Ali, Lewis, SRL, etc., but that's just coincidence, look how many other good boxers of many different ethnicities we got. Froch the brave and ironchinned warrior, Calzaghe the fasthanded and ironchinned warrior with infinite stamina, all with cool and different styles. Rocky Marciano was also white.

When I hate on Andre Ward, I don't do it because he's American. When I hate on Wladimir Klitschko, I don't do it because he's white. I'm hating on Ward because I don't like boxers who act like divas and I'm hating on Wladimir because of his obvious ducking of Wilder. Yet some people accuse me of hating Americans and some accuse me of hating whites...

I find huge joy in watching guys fighting each other on a high level. What difference does the nationality or race make? Seriously, people, stop being such idiots and just appreciate all of these brave warriors, black or white or whatever, who puts their health on the line to make the boxing business that we love stay alive! Have some f*cking respect.

I agree ... BUT ... whatever ... let's move forward.

Then again, there is a strong racial/nationalistic component to sports and life in general. I think nationalism is tied with religion as the most destructive forces in the world, so it's hard to ignore it. (In terms of group movements, greed is the all-time #1)

Race, on the other hand, is something that people hide very deeply. Living in America, and hearing all sorts of statistics from Europe, I know it exists. Unlike nationalism, which is accepted for some reason, racism gets hidden. I actually appreciate guys like Freedom because I know where he stands. (Some Marcus Garvey shit right there)

I don't know if you guys are up on the latest trends and news stories, but white supremacy groups are growing rapidly. For whatever reason, our governments are ignoring their rise, as they have always done. However, it's scary that in America and Europe, it is growing rapidly. Whenever, the economy goes bad, these things happen. A few "intelligent" guys say, "Instead of blaming white businessmen and politicians that are screwing us, let's blame immigrants."

I don't like to go into people's personal life, but some said Freedom is part of a racist forum ... how did he find out? But I would love to present the tons of information about business and political corruption (it would take days) and then ask if minorities are really the bad guys. Sadly, because these groups are rooted in an imaginary sense of persecution, they would make up some bullshit or not even listen in the first place. But whatever, people seem to love war and death and suffering and mayhem.

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:I agree ... BUT ... whatever ... let's move forward.

Then again, there is a strong racial/nationalistic component to sports and life in general. I think nationalism is tied with religion as the most destructive forces in the world, so it's hard to ignore it. (In terms of group movements, greed is the all-time #1)

Race, on the other hand, is something that people hide very deeply. Living in America, and hearing all sorts of statistics from Europe, I know it exists. Unlike nationalism, which is accepted for some reason, racism gets hidden. I actually appreciate guys like Freedom because I know where he stands. (Some Marcus Garvey poo right there)

I don't know if you guys are up on the latest trends and news stories, but white supremacy groups are growing rapidly. For whatever reason, our governments are ignoring their rise, as they have always done. However, it's scary that in America and Europe, it is growing rapidly. Whenever, the economy goes bad, these things happen. A few "intelligent" guys say, "Instead of blaming white businessmen and politicians that are screwing us, let's blame immigrants."

I don't like to go into people's personal life, but some said Freedom is part of a racist forum ... how did he find out? But I would love to present the tons of information about business and political corruption (it would take days) and then ask if minorities are really the bad guys. Sadly, because these groups are rooted in an imaginary sense of persecution, they would make up some bullshit or not even listen in the first place. But whatever, people seem to love war and death and suffering and mayhem.

Racism should be illegal, it's sick that some people consider other humans to be worth less or less intelligent! Look how many heroes of different ethnicities we got in this world. Only an idiot wouldn't appreciate them. I'm neither white nor black, I think it's so stupid when whites and blacks hates each other, you're more similar when you're seen from the outside than you are when you're seen from among yourselves.

How would you feel if Andre Ward decided to wear a dress? and maybe some heels?

Yes We Can wrote:How would you feel if Andre Ward decided to wear a dress? and maybe some heels?

I would think "Why do this man act like a woman? It's wrong". Weird question...

Other people's bigotry is bad.
My own bigotry isn't actually bigotry, it's just how I feel.

I'm hating on Ward because I don't like boxers who act like divas and I'm hating on Wladimir because of his obvious ducking of Wilder.

lolwut

jujigatame wrote:

I'm hating on Ward because I don't like boxers who act like divas and I'm hating on Wladimir because of his obvious ducking of Wilder.

lolwut

You know what I mean. Wladimir would shut up a lot of people by beating Wilder and he would make a lot of money. So why doesn't he try to make the fight? And Ward never wants to travel, only now when Kessler is possibly shot... And he barely ever fights, business issues is no excuse.

I'm not sure how else to put this, but ... your opinions are dumb.

People probably think you're a racist/nationalist/whatever because they're trying to make sense of your gibberish.

Wlad is waiting for Wilder to get a trinket and make more money.

jujigatame wrote:I'm not sure how else to put this, but ... your opinions are dumb.

People probably think you're a racist/nationalist/whatever because they're trying to make sense of your gibberish.

Will you please stop trolling and just stay on topic?

Your ruining this forum, your bombarding it with utter sh*t!

I think you thrive off attention and replies!

Kaaspeer wrote:

jujigatame wrote:I'm not sure how else to put this, but ... your opinions are dumb.

People probably think you're a racist/nationalist/whatever because they're trying to make sense of your gibberish.

Will you please stop trolling and just stay on topic?

I am dead serious.

CTaylor1999 wrote:Your ruining this forum, your bombarding it with utter sh*t!

I think you thrive off attention and replies!

Give me an example of my threads which are utter sh*t, Mr. Wiseguy.

Racism has always been a part of boxing.

Why do you think the phrase "Great White Hope" was coined?

Jack Johnson, Liston, and Ali all faced prejudice in their times.

Hell, Max Schmeling was used by Nazi Germany as an example of "Aryan superiority" when he was champ.

VG_Addict wrote:Racism has always been a part of boxing.

Why do you think the phrase "Great White Hope" was coined?

Jack Johnson, Liston, and Ali all faced prejudice in their times.

Hell, Max Schmeling was used by Nazi Germany as an example of "Aryan superiority" when he was champ.

I hope we will one day get a redheaded champion who is not just an albino Mexican.

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:I agree ... BUT ... whatever ... let's move forward.

Then again, there is a strong racial/nationalistic component to sports and life in general. I think nationalism is tied with religion as the most destructive forces in the world, so it's hard to ignore it. (In terms of group movements, greed is the all-time #1)

Race, on the other hand, is something that people hide very deeply. Living in America, and hearing all sorts of statistics from Europe, I know it exists. Unlike nationalism, which is accepted for some reason, racism gets hidden. I actually appreciate guys like Freedom because I know where he stands. (Some Marcus Garvey poo right there)

I don't know if you guys are up on the latest trends and news stories, but white supremacy groups are growing rapidly. For whatever reason, our governments are ignoring their rise, as they have always done. However, it's scary that in America and Europe, it is growing rapidly. Whenever, the economy goes bad, these things happen. A few "intelligent" guys say, "Instead of blaming white businessmen and politicians that are screwing us, let's blame immigrants."

I don't like to go into people's personal life, but some said Freedom is part of a racist forum ... how did he find out? But I would love to present the tons of information about business and political corruption (it would take days) and then ask if minorities are really the bad guys. Sadly, because these groups are rooted in an imaginary sense of persecution, they would make up some bullshit or not even listen in the first place. But whatever, people seem to love war and death and suffering and mayhem.

How can you agree with him if you said that the bashing of Al Haymon was due to him being black and not because he put on a god awful card?

Kaaspeer wrote:

VG_Addict wrote:Racism has always been a part of boxing.

Why do you think the phrase "Great White Hope" was coined?

Jack Johnson, Liston, and Ali all faced prejudice in their times.

Hell, Max Schmeling was used by Nazi Germany as an example of "Aryan superiority" when he was champ.

I hope we will one day get a redheaded champion who is not just an albino Mexican.

Bob Fitzsimmons. But he's not an all time great because he wasn't black with 100% KO ratio...

punchoutsb wrote:

Kaaspeer wrote:

VG_Addict wrote:Racism has always been a part of boxing.

Why do you think the phrase "Great White Hope" was coined?

Jack Johnson, Liston, and Ali all faced prejudice in their times.

Hell, Max Schmeling was used by Nazi Germany as an example of "Aryan superiority" when he was champ.

I hope we will one day get a redheaded champion who is not just an albino Mexican.

Bob Fitzsimmons. But he's not an all time great because he wasn't black with 100% KO ratio...

Why do you hate white people, bro?

Sorry, Bnov is still better at trolling than you.

@ this thread, and Kaaspeer.

punchoutsb wrote:

Sorry, Bnov is still better at trolling than you.

Trolling is for losers. You guys are just biased fanboys who can't stand that your idols receives a little criticism.

Kaaspeer wrote:Boxing fans, wake up. Look how primitive we are. No, I'm not talking about the fact that we find huge joy in the technical aspects of the men knocking each other's health away, I'm talking about HOW we find that huge joy in doing it.

There is so much racism and nationalism and so many accusations of it. Who even cares if a boxer is black or white or Philipino?
The best boxers ever have been black, like Ali, Lewis, SRL, etc., but that's just coincidence, look how many other good boxers of many different ethnicities we got. Froch the brave and ironchinned warrior, Calzaghe the fasthanded and ironchinned warrior with infinite stamina, all with cool and different styles. Rocky Marciano was also white.

When I hate on Andre Ward, I don't do it because he's American. When I hate on Wladimir Klitschko, I don't do it because he's white. I'm hating on Ward because I don't like boxers who act like divas and I'm hating on Wladimir because of his obvious ducking of Wilder. Yet some people accuse me of hating Americans and some accuse me of hating whites...

I find huge joy in watching guys fighting each other on a high level. What difference does the nationality or race make? Seriously, people, stop being such idiots and just appreciate all of these brave warriors, black or white or whatever, who puts their health on the line to make the boxing business that we love stay alive! Have some f*cking respect.

You should be smarter then this Kaaspeer, Heavyweight 7" tall Taishan Dong just made his pro debut maybe wladimir is ducking him too, this fight will happen and Wlad is not scared of wilder and he will beat him, can't you understand it don't make sense to make that fight now, it will be so much bigger when wilder will have the WBC belt.

VG_Addict wrote: Hell, Max Schmeling was used by Nazi Germany as an example of "Aryan superiority" when he was champ.

https://vine.co/v/MYHXWeQgdl7

Kaaspeer wrote:

punchoutsb wrote:

Sorry, Bnov is still better at trolling than you.

Trolling is for losers. You guys are just biased fanboys who can't stand that your idols receives a little criticism.

Don't call yourself a loser! You're just bored, but things will look up!