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Two big British punchers. Who ya got?

Mason probably.
Just on punch resistance mainly. Gary could dish it and take it. Frank could dish it out and take it too but I think Gary's punch resistance is slightly higher IMO.

I think Mason too; he was solid and had very quick hands for such a big man.

i think frank would out jab gary and be in the lead all fight it's just weather mason tags him or not i'm going with bruno on points

stevedoc wrote:i think frank would out jab gary and be in the lead all fight it's just weather mason tags him or not i'm going with bruno on points

Can't argue with that either. I think either could win but would have loved to see it. I do think Mason was underrated.

Would of been a cracking encounter. It's a pick 'em. Gun to head, and going from who tended to get the better when they sparred, I'd lean towards Bruno.

Bruno, a really good heavyweight who was woefully undermatched by the cartel. His pumping
jab would have busted Mason up, one thing about Bruno was that he had faster hands than
had been given credit for.

There were some British boxing experts who 25 years ago picked Mason to beat Frank Bruno. I am skeptical however. Watching Gary's fight with a young Lennox Lewis, he was appallingly slow for a man of only 28 years of age and somewhat easy to hit. While Frank Bruno was no Muhammad Ali in the boxing department, he at least had a very good left jab often followed by a powerful right cross. He also had the track record of coming back in gutting it out in tough fights to win ( see Oliver McCall and Floyd Cummings ) and faced more of the division's better fighters. Bruno's chin wasn't granite but neither was Mason's. Frank certainly took more of Lewis's harder shots and returned the favor more than Gary was able to, and that was against a more polished Lewis.

Frank Bruno for me.

palooka wrote:I think Mason too; he was solid and had very quick hands for such a big man.

I nearly choked on my shaami kebab reading this.mason was slower coming out than turd outta a constipated dog.abysmally slow hands made Bruno seem like Floyd patterson

mugabi wrote:

palooka wrote:I think Mason too; he was solid and had very quick hands for such a big man.

I nearly choked on my shaami kebab reading this.mason was slower coming out than turd outta a constipated dog.abysmally slow hands made Bruno seem like Floyd patterson

You must have a worse memory than me mugabi; Gary was a good fighter and he had quick hands I thought.

drunkenpiper36 wrote:There were some British boxing experts who 25 years ago picked Mason to beat Frank Bruno. I am skeptical however. Watching Gary's fight with a young Lennox Lewis, he was appallingly slow for a man of only 28 years of age and somewhat easy to hit. While Frank Bruno was no Muhammad Ali in the boxing department, he at least had a very good left jab often followed by a powerful right cross. He also had the track record of coming back in gutting it out in tough fights to win ( see Oliver McCall and Floyd Cummings ) and faced more of the division's better fighters. Bruno's chin wasn't granite but neither was Mason's. Frank certainly took more of Lewis's harder shots and returned the favor more than Gary was able to, and that was against a more polished Lewis.

Frank Bruno for me.

How can you say Mason's chin wasn't granite. He was never floored or ever particularly hurt as far as I know.

palooka wrote:

mugabi wrote:

palooka wrote:I think Mason too; he was solid and had very quick hands for such a big man.

I nearly choked on my shaami kebab reading this.mason was slower coming out than turd outta a constipated dog.abysmally slow hands made Bruno seem like Floyd patterson

You must have a worse memory than me mugabi; Gary was a good fighter and he had quick hands I thought.

U must have seen some other Gary mason.the hw was very very slow handed.but he was my favourite local fighter.I met him when I was 12 and saw all his fights growing up.tragic his career ended in his mid 20s with his sole defeat after being 35-0.he really didn't need to fight Lewis and was very badly managed.imagine how much better he'd have been with a futch or dundee but in those days British fighters never got American trainers

gary had a good whack but, in my view, seemed to get discouraged if they didn't go after a few solid punches. his confidence seemed to evaporate. If he gets past an initial good few shots Bruno's excellent jab would discourage gary further and frank stops GM by the 8th round.

I miss gary mason - top bloke

misterpunch wrote:gary had a good whack but, in my view, seemed to get discouraged if they didn't go after a few solid punches. his confidence seemed to evaporate. If he gets past an initial good few shots Bruno's excellent jab would discourage gary further and frank stops GM by the 8th round.

I miss gary mason - top bloke

I don't think Bruno would stop him unless Mason's eye went. I think the edge in skill and power is with Frank. Both a but clumsy and slow really. Bruno by a tough decision 116-112.

polecateddy wrote:

drunkenpiper36 wrote:There were some British boxing experts who 25 years ago picked Mason to beat Frank Bruno. I am skeptical however. Watching Gary's fight with a young Lennox Lewis, he was appallingly slow for a man of only 28 years of age and somewhat easy to hit. While Frank Bruno was no Muhammad Ali in the boxing department, he at least had a very good left jab often followed by a powerful right cross. He also had the track record of coming back in gutting it out in tough fights to win ( see Oliver McCall and Floyd Cummings ) and faced more of the division's better fighters. Bruno's chin wasn't granite but neither was Mason's. Frank certainly took more of Lewis's harder shots and returned the favor more than Gary was able to, and that was against a more polished Lewis.

Frank Bruno for me.

How can you say Mason's chin wasn't granite. He was never floored or ever particularly hurt as far as I know.

true. But when your opposition is Everett Martin, Dave Jaco, James Pritchard, jess harding and shot renditions of Tillis and Biggs, the claim to never being floored doesn't hold much weight.

drunkenpiper36 wrote:

polecateddy wrote:

drunkenpiper36 wrote:There were some British boxing experts who 25 years ago picked Mason to beat Frank Bruno. I am skeptical however. Watching Gary's fight with a young Lennox Lewis, he was appallingly slow for a man of only 28 years of age and somewhat easy to hit. While Frank Bruno was no Muhammad Ali in the boxing department, he at least had a very good left jab often followed by a powerful right cross. He also had the track record of coming back in gutting it out in tough fights to win ( see Oliver McCall and Floyd Cummings ) and faced more of the division's better fighters. Bruno's chin wasn't granite but neither was Mason's. Frank certainly took more of Lewis's harder shots and returned the favor more than Gary was able to, and that was against a more polished Lewis.

Frank Bruno for me.

How can you say Mason's chin wasn't granite. He was never floored or ever particularly hurt as far as I know.

true. But when your opposition is Everett Martin, Dave Jaco, James Pritchard, jess harding and shot renditions of Tillis and Biggs, the claim to never being floored doesn't hold much weight.

Apart from a young, admittedly raw Lennox Lewis. Reckon he might have been a bit of a puncher. Mason's eye was a mess but he was still roaring into the fray. No sign of any wobbles.

Apart from a young, admittedly raw Lennox Lewis. Reckon he might have been a bit of a puncher. Mason's eye was a mess but he was still roaring into the fray. No sign of any wobbles.

I'll concede that he was reasonably durable. Not sure that I'd give him the "granite" chin label given that I never saw him survive a truly big hitter, with the exception of Mark Wills who was journeyman level. He took a lot of Lewis's big shots, but Lennox was green as grass and still got him on a stoppage, albeit NOT a KO.

drunkenpiper36 wrote:

Apart from a young, admittedly raw Lennox Lewis. Reckon he might have been a bit of a puncher. Mason's eye was a mess but he was still roaring into the fray. No sign of any wobbles.

I'll concede that he was reasonably durable. Not sure that I'd give him the "granite" chin label given that I never saw him survive a truly big hitter, with the exception of Mark Wills who was journeyman level. He took a lot of Lewis's big shots, but Lennox was green as grass and still got him on a stoppage, albeit NOT a KO.

Reasonably durable? How generous of you! Lol

For me Bruno would outboxed him.Bruno UD or late stoppage.

He more skilled guy than Mason.

polecateddy wrote:

drunkenpiper36 wrote:

Apart from a young, admittedly raw Lennox Lewis. Reckon he might have been a bit of a puncher. Mason's eye was a mess but he was still roaring into the fray. No sign of any wobbles.

I'll concede that he was reasonably durable. Not sure that I'd give him the "granite" chin label given that I never saw him survive a truly big hitter, with the exception of Mark Wills who was journeyman level. He took a lot of Lewis's big shots, but Lennox was green as grass and still got him on a stoppage, albeit NOT a KO.

Reasonably durable? How generous of you! Lol

You're right. After taking numerous big shots from Everett Bigfoot and James Pritchard there's absolutely no reason why he shouldn't rate as high George Chuvalo and Joe Grimm in the chin department. Why the hell bother looking at the finishing ability of one's opponents or their skills? utter nonsense..

Fat Git wrote:Bruno, a really good heavyweight who was woefully undermatched by the cartel. His pumping
jab would have busted Mason up, one thing about Bruno was that he had faster hands than
had been given credit for.

Yup. I think Bruno was a top 10 heavy in any era. I remember watching him as an amateur and thinking he is going places, but too many mismatches and too much weight training held him back I think.

I liked Mason but he wasnt world class which Frank was. Bruno would bust him up In think. I am genuinely surprised anyone has gone for Mason.

I once saw Gary Mason at the Notting Hill Carnival; he was the biggest and most solid looking man I have ever seen.

palooka wrote:I once saw Gary Mason at the Notting Hill Carnival; he was the biggest and most solid looking man I have ever seen.

I once went out with a girl from Barnsley but I still think Bruno beats Mason.

Lmao at "Bruno a top ten hw in any era". It's arguable he was never even a genuine top ten guy even in the 80s and 90s if u take the best ten of those decades. If we are talking paper rankings well obviously any top 25 fighter can attain a top ten paper ranking.guys like Richard dunn did that in the tough 1970s.Louis had his bum of the month club.

Bruno was a good fighter,excellent jab,right hand and left hook,but his stamina ended come round 10 he'd fall apart until the 90s that was true every time.if he could pace himself,relax in the ring,and not react like he had been electrocuted every time a big shot got him,cos let's face it it truly took a sledgehammer to floor Bruno for ten,than frank could have been a very very good hw.as it is he was a world champ and one of the most popular fighters ever in Britain that's a great legacy to be proud of

Mason was much better than people on here think.we must forget at 35-0 he was just ready to fight for a title.terrible management taking on Lewis.he'd have beaten Alex Stewart,or Tommy Morrison,or the rodriguez and Williams of the world to get his shot

frank does not feature in any all time top ten heavyweight lists in this house. not yesterday. not today. not tomorrow.