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Silliest Abc Belts

Posted: 24 Aug 2014, 11:16
by ReggieDiggs
In light of Shannon Briggs, a black American w/o hispanic origins (unless you count the time his mom was banging a Mexican guy for a month when he was a kid), winning a abc Latino belt yesterday what are the silliest abc belts that have been created or won by less than eligible boxers.

I'll go with Eric "Butterbean" Esch winning & defending a even more bs than usual abc groups Super Heavyweight belt that allowed him to have 4 round title fights.

Re: Silliest Abc Belts

Posted: 24 Aug 2014, 11:20
by Lenny Cravats
There was a title called 'The Bad and Mean'. Can't remember who won it, someone that was formerly high profile - Omar Sheikah perhaps?

Re: Silliest Abc Belts

Posted: 24 Aug 2014, 14:11
by Andrew
:shame: :shame: it was actually for the 'Interim' WBC Latino belt

Re: Silliest Abc Belts

Posted: 24 Aug 2014, 14:16
by ReggieDiggs
Naandrew wrote::shame: :shame: it was actually for the 'Interim' WBC Latino belt
So maybe one day Shannon will actually turn into a Latino & move up to the real Latino champion?

Re: Silliest Abc Belts

Posted: 24 Aug 2014, 14:26
by expe
Mike Perez-Magomed Abdusalamov, a Cuban and a Russian, was for the WBC United States title.

Re: Silliest Abc Belts

Posted: 24 Aug 2014, 14:45
by ttornado
WBA Regular is the daftest, due to some considering it a real 'World' title!

Re: Silliest Abc Belts

Posted: 24 Aug 2014, 16:27
by Boxing Prospect
Johann Duhaupas, a Frenchman, won the WBA Fedebol AND South American Heavyweight titles...

Re: Silliest Abc Belts

Posted: 24 Aug 2014, 16:49
by handsofstone
ttornado wrote:WBA Regular is the daftest, due to some considering it a real 'World' title!
:TU: The reguar title is the worst because titles are titles but us hardcore fans like to know the score with belts but the WBA are takng the piss out with 2 titles in 1 division and that we get grey

Re: Silliest Abc Belts

Posted: 24 Aug 2014, 18:44
by sucracristo
tony jeter has the fecarbox title, which i could swear is a central american/caribbean thing,
but he has fought for it in the DC area against other americans all 3 times.
it doesn't seem like any title with a region or group of countries in its name
has to be contested in those countries or by people from those countries.
there ARE latin american countries, that latinos in the united states check
off a box saying they have a connection to, but i don't think that latino
title is supposed to be contested between americans of that ethnicity.
it's supposed to be like the other titles refering to mediterranean or baltic
or pan pacific, etc, meaning you are champ of that area. i've seen north american
titles contested in south america with at least one contestant never having fought
outside of south america. roy jones beat a guy who was 17-0 maybe 2 years ago
who had both the baltic silver and polish international titles.

Re: Silliest Abc Belts

Posted: 24 Aug 2014, 23:17
by ikorolev
It appears that they realize that there is a big issue and are talking about it:

http://www.BS.com/sulaiman-too ... les--81398?

The question is if they can move further than talking. They could at least agree to have one common unified/super champion and keep their "regular" belts.

Re: Silliest Abc Belts

Posted: 25 Aug 2014, 07:14
by Boxing Writer
Although Povetkin is pretty good fighter, him holding the WBA "Regular" belt after ducking Wlad like a plague for years was one of the the silliest things in the history of boxing

Re: Silliest Abc Belts

Posted: 25 Aug 2014, 09:33
by BW3007
ReggieDiggs wrote:In light of Shannon Briggs, a black American w/o hispanic origins (unless you count the time his mom was banging a Mexican guy for a month when he was a kid), winning a abc Latino belt yesterday what are the silliest abc belts that have been created or won by less than eligible boxers.

I'll go with Eric "Butterbean" Esch winning & defending a even more bs than usual abc groups Super Heavyweight belt that allowed him to have 4 round title fights.

just saw the guy he fought for it started out as a super middleweight!

Re: Silliest Abc Belts

Posted: 25 Aug 2014, 14:16
by handsofstone
Boxing Writer wrote:Although Povetkin is pretty good fighter, him holding the WBA "Regular" belt after ducking Wlad like a plague for years was one of the the silliest things in the history of boxing
And i think Wlad/Povetkin is the only time the Super champ has faced the Regular holder

Re: Silliest Abc Belts

Posted: 25 Aug 2014, 14:35
by Tony1244
Anything to do with Chauncy Welliver is the silliest.

Re: Silliest Abc Belts

Posted: 25 Aug 2014, 17:04
by ReggieDiggs
Doing some research & apparently Shannon's opponent, Cory Phelps, for the Latino title was a seemingly a run of the mill non-Latino white guy based on fight posters. Also its noteworthy this is Shannon's 2nd reign as Latino champion, he also won the title in 2010 vs Rafael Pedro, which sounds like a guy a lil more worthy of that opportunity than Shannon or Cory.

Carl Daniels, 34, fought a 22yr old Chad Dawson for a abc Youth Championship in 2004.

Monte Barrett won a abc Oriental title over David Tua a few years back.

Re: Silliest Abc Belts

Posted: 25 Aug 2014, 19:48
by sucracristo
ReggieDiggs wrote: was a seemingly a run of the mill non-Latino white guy based on fight posters.
again, i don't think these titles are about what box you check off on an american form for statistical
purposes, like so and so is the white champ and so and so is the black champ and so and so is
the jewish champ. pretty sure latino in this case would refer to latin american countries, like fecarbox
is supposed to be centr am countries and mediterranean would be countries in that area.
i think pretty much all of them have been contested in other places by boxers who have
nothing to do with those areas. the ebu is probably the strictest about how many fights you need
to have out of your last 10 in europe and citizenship, etc.

Re: Silliest Abc Belts

Posted: 25 Aug 2014, 20:01
by ReggieDiggs
sucracristo wrote:
ReggieDiggs wrote: was a seemingly a run of the mill non-Latino white guy based on fight posters.
again, i don't think these titles are about what box you check off on an american form for statistical
purposes, like so and so is the white champ and so and so is the black champ and so and so is
the jewish champ. pretty sure latino in this case would refer to latin american countries, like fecarbox
is supposed to be centr am countries and mediterranean would be countries in that area.
i think pretty much all of them have been contested in other places by boxers who have
nothing to do with those areas. the ebu is probably the strictest about how many fights you need
to have out of your last 10 in europe and citizenship, etc.
Nah I understand. What I'm saying is its f#cking stupid.

Re: Silliest Abc Belts

Posted: 26 Aug 2014, 05:32
by bigjack
Alexander Ustinov holds something called the 'Pan African title',what the hell is that all about ?

Re: Silliest Abc Belts

Posted: 26 Aug 2014, 17:56
by IRLangmaid25
Has the WBC come with an 'interim Youth Intercontiential Silver title yet?'.

Re: Silliest Abc Belts

Posted: 26 Aug 2014, 22:27
by Boxing Prospect
sucracristo wrote:
ReggieDiggs wrote: was a seemingly a run of the mill non-Latino white guy based on fight posters.
again, i don't think these titles are about what box you check off on an american form for statistical
purposes, like so and so is the white champ and so and so is the black champ and so and so is
the jewish champ. pretty sure latino in this case would refer to latin american countries, like fecarbox
is supposed to be centr am countries and mediterranean would be countries in that area.
i think pretty much all of them have been contested in other places by boxers who have
nothing to do with those areas. the ebu is probably the strictest about how many fights you need
to have out of your last 10 in europe and citizenship, etc.
I'd suggest the OPBF is stricter. Though the EBU do usually give them a good run for their money.

Re: Silliest Abc Belts

Posted: 26 Aug 2014, 22:54
by ReggieDiggs
IRLangmaid25 wrote:Has the WBC come with an 'interim Youth Intercontiential Silver title yet?'.
Idk about the Intercontiential version, but Carl Froch won the vacant interim Youth Latino Extra Crispy Silver with stripper glitter on it title vs Groves.

Re: Silliest Abc Belts

Posted: 27 Aug 2014, 09:20
by oliverfennell
expe wrote:Mike Perez-Magomed Abdusalamov, a Cuban and a Russian, was for the WBC United States title.
My favourites along these lines are Irish-Kiwi Shane Cameron beating Croatian-Aussie Bob Mirovic for the IBF African title, or Italian-American Brian Minto beating Cameron for the WBO Oriental title.

Re: Silliest Abc Belts

Posted: 27 Aug 2014, 13:44
by tiny_acres
To this day none top Stacey Goodson's "TRAILER PARK" championships. :OhYes:

Re: Silliest Abc Belts

Posted: 27 Aug 2014, 14:44
by pugilisticprofessor
tiny_acres wrote:To this day none top Stacey Goodson's "TRAILER PARK" championships. :OhYes:
Wasn't they made out of cardboard and a sharpie marker? :lol:

Re: Silliest Abc Belts

Posted: 28 Aug 2014, 15:28
by GilFilmore
Charlie Z's UBF is the best.


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