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these 3 division tops of the other, cw is okay, but got no real star. light midd. is not so great to me. canelo and lara the 2 best realy dissappointed. light welterweight also not an optiopn for me, danny a joke and matthysse, is he ever boxing again....and from sm a lot of quality guys left like bute and even froch is thinking about it and ward is never boxing.


LH

got 2 of the biggest and most exciting boxers in the world serguy & adonis
got an living legend that still produces quality wins in X
and there are guys to watch like Artur Beterbiev, a amateur world champ and is going to box tavaros cloud in only his 6 th fight
and arguabtly the future #1 of that division, the olympic gold medalist amateur star egor

M

the most exciting boxer in the world GGG and cotto,
plus quality guys like quillon, korobov
and olympic gold medalist murata
also lets not forget angulo will come around and he measn action

WW

3 boxing legends at the end of the road (money, pac, marquez)
and some heavy hitters and technical boxers like maidana, thurman, brook, bradley

Welterweight

I think that there is more competition at welterweight. Not neccesarily the big 3 but below them.

neither class is really good.
We don't Need to talk about the HW but the MW is not all that much better, I think that the MW is in ist weakest state ever. golovkin is really good but cotto is not a real MW, Martinez is done and pirogs Looks like he won't come back. and the younger guys look like they don't really step up.

I don't think that the LHW is really good either, not much around after kovalev.

the WW is probably still the strongest Division by far. 154 has nice fights too but it is more like a transitional/catchweight Division for blown up welters and small MWs.

168 is also still better than the MW or LHW because you still potentially have ward and maybe dirrell plus Carl froch. kessler has declined but he still is a solid 4th or 5th man for the SMW (much better than the 4-5 of the MW for example).

Flyweight. Easily. So much competition, the best guys are fighting, so many great matches and even the second tier fights are great (Eto vs Diale for example).

No contests its ww. Mw is one of the weakest. Trout could move up and be champion if he wanted to at Mw

Chepppaaa wrote:these 3 division tops of the other, cw is okay, but got no real star. light midd. is not so great to me. canelo and lara the 2 best realy dissappointed. light welterweight also not an optiopn for me, danny a joke and matthysse, is he ever boxing again....and from sm a lot of quality guys left like bute and even froch is thinking about it and ward is never boxing.


LH

got 2 of the biggest and most exciting boxers in the world serguy & adonis
got an living legend that still produces quality wins in X
and there are guys to watch like Artur Beterbiev, a amateur world champ and is going to box tavaros cloud in only his 6 th fight
and arguabtly the future #1 of that division, the olympic gold medalist amateur star egor

M

the most exciting boxer in the world GGG and cotto,
plus quality guys like quillon, korobov
and olympic gold medalist murata
also lets not forget angulo will come around and he measn action

WW

3 boxing legends at the end of the road (money, pac, marquez)
and some heavy hitters and technical boxers like maidana, thurman, brook, bradley

not bad but your a bit mixed up at light heavweight mate,

Beterbiev is the best prospect then Gvodysk then Mekhonstsev. You also have guys like Hooper, Smith and Browne

two of the best prospects are still in the amateurs Julio De La Cruz( IMO the number 1 p4p boxer in amatuer boxing) and Joe Ward( world junior and youth champion, european champion at 17 and world bronze medalist at 19. Ward beat the shit out of Mekhontsev when Ward was 17 and Egor was 27

dominik wrote:neither class is really good.
We don't Need to talk about the HW but the MW is not all that much better, I think that the MW is in ist weakest state ever. golovkin is really good but cotto is not a real MW, Martinez is done and pirogs Looks like he won't come back. and the younger guys look like they don't really step up.

I don't think that the LHW is really good either, not much around after kovalev.

the WW is probably still the strongest Division by far. 154 has nice fights too but it is more like a transitional/catchweight Division for blown up welters and small MWs.

168 is also still better than the MW or LHW because you still potentially have ward and maybe dirrell plus Carl froch. kessler has declined but he still is a solid 4th or 5th man for the SMW (much better than the 4-5 of the MW for example).

mate 175 has more top talent coming through than any other division

I like the Cruiserweight division.Very competitive.

welter & Flyweight. Most hardcores can name about 20 or more welters easy. Flyweight the top is really good but after the top ten not a lot of depth.

dominik wrote:neither class is really good.
We don't Need to talk about the HW but the MW is not all that much better, I think that the MW is in ist weakest state ever. golovkin is really good but cotto is not a real MW, Martinez is done and pirogs Looks like he won't come back. and the younger guys look like they don't really step up.

I don't think that the LHW is really good either, not much around after kovalev.

the WW is probably still the strongest Division by far. 154 has nice fights too but it is more like a transitional/catchweight Division for blown up welters and small MWs.

168 is also still better than the MW or LHW because you still potentially have ward and maybe dirrell plus Carl froch. kessler has declined but he still is a solid 4th or 5th man for the SMW (much better than the 4-5 of the MW for example).

the middlweight div 2014 is definitly better when the pavlik/abraham era was. only those 2 were cool, the rest sucked. GGG would beat pavlik and abraham. and besides GGG with names like Cotto, Quillon, olympic gold medalist Murata and solid guys like koroboiv or murray sound better than 2008 sturm, sylvester and all that nonsense.

tiny_acres wrote:I like the Cruiserweight division.Very competitive.

yeah infact it is...plenty of good guys and upn comer heavy hitters like that russian dude with 13 fights 13 kos.

but overall, there is no clear 1, or no clear super star. huck is overrated. hernandez had mayor problems against somebody like firat arslan, a lot even say he lost. guillermo jones is a chubby cheat.

lebedev rarely fights. I mean it is not like LH or MW, where you can say they got guys of p4p top 10 potential, or are already there.

Chepppaaa wrote:

tiny_acres wrote:I like the Cruiserweight division.Very competitive.

yeah infact it is...plenty of good guys and upn comer heavy hitters like that russian dude with 13 fights 13 kos.

but overall, there is no clear 1, or no clear super star. huck is overrated. hernandez had mayor problems against somebody like firat arslan, a lot even say he lost. guillermo jones is a chubby cheat.

lebedev rarely fights. I mean it is not like LH or MW, where you can say they got guys of p4p top 10 potential, or are already there.

The South Africans are deep in that division too Kalenga, Makabu, and others

tflanagan5 wrote:

Chepppaaa wrote:these 3 division tops of the other, cw is okay, but got no real star. light midd. is not so great to me. canelo and lara the 2 best realy dissappointed. light welterweight also not an optiopn for me, danny a joke and matthysse, is he ever boxing again....and from sm a lot of quality guys left like bute and even froch is thinking about it and ward is never boxing.


LH

got 2 of the biggest and most exciting boxers in the world serguy & adonis
got an living legend that still produces quality wins in X
and there are guys to watch like Artur Beterbiev, a amateur world champ and is going to box tavaros cloud in only his 6 th fight
and arguabtly the future #1 of that division, the olympic gold medalist amateur star egor

M

the most exciting boxer in the world GGG and cotto,
plus quality guys like quillon, korobov
and olympic gold medalist murata
also lets not forget angulo will come around and he measn action

WW

3 boxing legends at the end of the road (money, pac, marquez)
and some heavy hitters and technical boxers like maidana, thurman, brook, bradley

not bad but your a bit mixed up at light heavweight mate,

Beterbiev is the best prospect then Gvodysk then Mekhonstsev. You also have guys like Hooper, Smith and Browne

two of the best prospects are still in the amateurs Julio De La Cruz( IMO the number 1 p4p boxer in amatuer boxing) and Joe Ward( world junior and youth champion, european champion at 17 and world bronze medalist at 19. Ward beat the poo out of Mekhontsev when Ward was 17 and Egor was 27

when is joe gonne turn pro?

cruz and pereza look incredible, but they cuban and probaly wont turn pro sadly.

Chepppaaa wrote:these 3 division tops of the other, cw is okay, but got no real star. light midd. is not so great to me. canelo and lara the 2 best realy dissappointed. light welterweight also not an optiopn for me, danny a joke and matthysse, is he ever boxing again....and from sm a lot of quality guys left like bute and even froch is thinking about it and ward is never boxing.


LH

got 2 of the biggest and most exciting boxers in the world serguy & adonis
got an living legend that still produces quality wins in X
and there are guys to watch like Artur Beterbiev, a amateur world champ and is going to box tavaros cloud in only his 6 th fight
and arguabtly the future #1 of that division, the olympic gold medalist amateur star egor

M

the most exciting boxer in the world GGG and cotto,
plus quality guys like quillon, korobov
and olympic gold medalist murata
also lets not forget angulo will come around and he measn action

WW

3 boxing legends at the end of the road (money, pac, marquez)
and some heavy hitters and technical boxers like maidana, thurman, brook, bradley

Once Kovalev knocks Hopkins out, it will be light heavyweight.

Chepppaaa wrote:

tflanagan5 wrote:

Chepppaaa wrote:these 3 division tops of the other, cw is okay, but got no real star. light midd. is not so great to me. canelo and lara the 2 best realy dissappointed. light welterweight also not an optiopn for me, danny a joke and matthysse, is he ever boxing again....and from sm a lot of quality guys left like bute and even froch is thinking about it and ward is never boxing.


LH

got 2 of the biggest and most exciting boxers in the world serguy & adonis
got an living legend that still produces quality wins in X
and there are guys to watch like Artur Beterbiev, a amateur world champ and is going to box tavaros cloud in only his 6 th fight
and arguabtly the future #1 of that division, the olympic gold medalist amateur star egor

M

the most exciting boxer in the world GGG and cotto,
plus quality guys like quillon, korobov
and olympic gold medalist murata
also lets not forget angulo will come around and he measn action

WW

3 boxing legends at the end of the road (money, pac, marquez)
and some heavy hitters and technical boxers like maidana, thurman, brook, bradley

not bad but your a bit mixed up at light heavweight mate,

Beterbiev is the best prospect then Gvodysk then Mekhonstsev. You also have guys like Hooper, Smith and Browne

two of the best prospects are still in the amateurs Julio De La Cruz( IMO the number 1 p4p boxer in amatuer boxing) and Joe Ward( world junior and youth champion, european champion at 17 and world bronze medalist at 19. Ward beat the poo out of Mekhontsev when Ward was 17 and Egor was 27

when is joe gonne turn pro?

cruz and pereza look incredible, but they cuban and probaly wont turn pro sadly.

Joe is signed to APB boxing so id say he will go pro after Rio 2016

what do you mean Cruz and Pereza there the same person Julio De La Cruz Peraza

hahahaha....that funny....ahh...oaky thanks

yeah pereza cruz is realy an athletic good boxer

ya Peraza is probebly one of the best pure boxers iv ever seen, his style is very negative though, he makes Lara look aggressive

147 easy. Future HOFers @ the top still fighting & winning. 3 or 4 middle top ten kinda guys who could become the man @ 147 after Floyd. Plus some promising up & coming guys who might make things interesting for those 3 or 4 middle top ten guys in the next 2-3 years like Errol Spence (24yrs, 13-0), Jose Benavidez (22yrs, 21-0), Frankie Gomez (22yrs, 18-0) & Erickson Lubin (18yrs, 8-0) plus a lesser known guy but a guy I think will be fun to watch in a few years vs top guys, Alex Saucedo (20yrs, 13-0).

147 is the strongest now but 175 has by far the best prospects coming through Reggie. Also theres no way Lubin will still be able to make 147 in 2 years

tflanagan5 wrote:147 is the strongest now but 175 has by far the best prospects coming through Reggie.

Who? I think a couple of the names I mentioned are all put guaranteed of becoming p4p top ten guys. Mostly seeing guys in their late 20's or early 30's already among up & coming guys @ 175.

ReggieDiggs wrote:

tflanagan5 wrote:147 is the strongest now but 175 has by far the best prospects coming through Reggie.

Who? I think a couple of the names I mentioned are all put guaranteed of becoming p4p top ten guys. Mostly seeing guys in their late 20's or early 30's already among up & coming guys @ 175.

nope there just prospects still have a huge amount to prove out of the 3 Lubin is the best and he wont be at welterweight for long.

175 has a lot more talent coming through, Beterbeiv, Mekhontsev, Gvoysyk, Hooper, Callum Smith,

and the p4p number 1 amatuer boxer Julio De La Cruz when he turns over and probebly the best pro prospect in the amateurs Joe Ward

tflanagan5 wrote:

ReggieDiggs wrote:

tflanagan5 wrote:147 is the strongest now but 175 has by far the best prospects coming through Reggie.

Who? I think a couple of the names I mentioned are all put guaranteed of becoming p4p top ten guys. Mostly seeing guys in their late 20's or early 30's already among up & coming guys @ 175.

nope there just prospects still have a huge amount to prove out of the 3 Lubin is the best and he wont be at welterweight for long.

175 has a lot more talent coming through, Beterbeiv, Mekhontsev, Gvoysyk, Hooper, Callum Smith,

and the p4p number 1 amatuer boxer Julio De La Cruz when he turns over and probebly the best pro prospect in the amateurs Joe Ward

Beterbeiv is 29 already & has fought 0 guys with a winning record. He gots a big fight next, but with his resume I think its worth seeing what happens in that fight to suggest he's gonna be something big & even if he is he's got a short window @ his age.

Mekhontsev is 29 so he needs to sh!t or get off the pot soon too.

Hooper makes sense.

Gvozdyk (who I assume is who you're talking about) is 27 so he's more borderline.

Smith makes sense.

I'll take my 5 guys over these 5 guys on potential & overall pro accomplishments in boxing @ the end of the day all day every day lol.

And De La Cruz probably would be a excellent pro, but he's Cuban so he may not ever get a chance to fight pro unless he paddles to Florida @ night so idk why you'd even bring him up.

Beterbeiv is 29 already & has fought 0 guys with a winning record. He gots a big fight next, but with his resume I think its worth seeing what happens in that fight to suggest he's gonna be something big & even if he is he's got a short window @ his age.

Mekhontsev is 29 so he needs to sh!t or get off the pot soon too.

Hooper makes sense.

Gvozdyk (who I assume is who you're talking about) is 27 so he's more borderline.

Smith makes sense.

I'll take my 5 guys over these 5 guys on potential & overall pro accomplishments in boxing @ the end of the day all day every day lol.

And De La Cruz probably would be a excellent pro, but he's Cuban so he may not ever get a chance to fight pro unless he paddles to Florida @ night so idk why you'd even bring him up.[/quote]

even at 30 these guys are fresh and have at least 8-9 years left in them at the top

the guy you have mentioned have acheived nothing apart from beating bums and journeymen, all the guys iv mentioned were top amatuers and have already looked good as pro

you also failed to mention Joe Ward , id rate him a probebly the best prospect on that list

tflanagan5 wrote:even at 30 these guys are fresh and have at least 8-9 years left in them at the top

the guy you have mentioned have acheived nothing apart from beating bums and journeymen, all the guys iv mentioned were top amatuers and have already looked good as pro

you also failed to mention Joe Ward , id rate him a probebly the best prospect on that list

8 or 9 years @ the top....okay. First off neither of those 29 year old guys are on top & I doubt they got nearly a decade @ the top when or if they get there just cuz most mfers aren't on top for a decade, successful amateur or otherwise.

And none of these guys have done much as pros so idk what you're talking about. Amateur accomplishments mean dick in the pro game, but I believe every guy you & I mentioned was a successful amateur. And I didn't mention Joe cuz he's an amateur too, but he'll probably turn pro unlike De La Cruz.