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Al Heymon is murdering boxing

Posted: 06 Sep 2014, 22:21
by jujigatame
Does anyone care about this fight at all? Showtime will seemingly televise anything these days.

Re: Al Heymon is murdering boxing

Posted: 06 Sep 2014, 22:23
by Boxing Prospect
Who ever continues to put Berto on TV deserves to be sodomised by an elephant.

Re: Al Heymon is murdering boxing

Posted: 06 Sep 2014, 22:25
by JCS
I'm almost ashamed to say that I'm watching Invicta..

Re: Al Heymon is murdering boxing

Posted: 06 Sep 2014, 22:26
by stevekrazy
The only interesting thing was Salka being the cornerman

Re: Al Heymon is murdering boxing

Posted: 06 Sep 2014, 22:29
by jujigatame
I can't remember the last time I was this apathetic about a fight on a "major" card.

Re: Al Heymon is murdering boxing

Posted: 06 Sep 2014, 22:36
by Evander
Yep it sucks.

Re: Al Heymon is murdering boxing

Posted: 06 Sep 2014, 22:44
by Boxing Prospect
This bout here could be fun...can't help but feel the fight on Bein Espanol will be the highlight though

Re: Al Heymon is murdering boxing

Posted: 06 Sep 2014, 22:46
by jujigatame
Yea I wish I got beIN. That is probably the best fight of the weekend right there. Frampton/Martinez is the other contender.

Re: Al Heymon is murdering boxing

Posted: 06 Sep 2014, 22:49
by Boxing Prospect
jujigatame wrote:Yea I wish I got beIN. That is probably the best fight of the weekend right there. Frampton/Martinez is the other contender.
If you include Friday Gonzalez/Yaegashi will take some serious beating.

Re: Al Heymon is murdering boxing

Posted: 06 Sep 2014, 22:55
by jujigatame
WTF with that ending. He gets up at 9, ref waves it off anyway. As if this card needed any help in sucking.

Re: Al Heymon is murdering boxing

Posted: 06 Sep 2014, 22:57
by JCS
jujigatame wrote:WTF with that ending. He gets up at 9, ref waves it off anyway. As if this card needed any help in sucking.
I was contemplating switching back from Modafferi/LaRosa... glad I didn't... well, sorta. This isn't much better.

Re: Al Heymon is murdering boxing

Posted: 06 Sep 2014, 23:01
by crusader
He was up very late at 9. I'd say he beat the count but it was close and I don't think he wanted to fight anymore.

Re: Al Heymon is murdering boxing

Posted: 06 Sep 2014, 23:02
by Boxing Prospect
Ah well, this card goes from crap to crapper.

Re: Al Heymon is murdering boxing

Posted: 06 Sep 2014, 23:03
by crusader
How much longer until Segura-Estrada?

Re: Al Heymon is murdering boxing

Posted: 06 Sep 2014, 23:04
by Evander
It's been designed that way and we all know it.
If a certain promoter is responsible for this there could be consequences, this sh-t is going out coast to coast in North America.
On his head be it, just a matter of time for this guy.

Re: Al Heymon is murdering boxing

Posted: 07 Sep 2014, 00:43
by JMac
What a joke when Malanaggi said the Broner-Taylor was one of the best fights of the year. He knows who signs his paychecks.

Re: Al Heymon is murdering boxing

Posted: 07 Sep 2014, 03:51
by Datsue
NVM

Re: Al Heymon is murdering boxing

Posted: 07 Sep 2014, 18:14
by Blue
Al Haymon creating smoke and mirrors in the middleweight division
by Robbie Bannatyne; Give Me Sport.com 08:34 Sat, 06 Sep 2014
http://www.givemesport.com/501646-al-ha ... utoplay=on

Re: Al Heymon is murdering boxing

Posted: 07 Sep 2014, 19:44
by ReggieDiggs
Blue wrote:Al Haymon creating smoke and mirrors in the middleweight division
by Robbie Bannatyne; Give Me Sport.com 08:34 Sat, 06 Sep 2014
http://www.givemesport.com/501646-al-ha ... utoplay=on
Was hoping to read about the Al/Jay Z rivalry & what exactly is the beef between these two people/groups that makes boxing business impossible.

Also f#ck me @ more promotional wars. Can someone who's like Switzerland get involved in promoting boxing please.

Re: Al Heymon is murdering boxing

Posted: 08 Sep 2014, 00:47
by chucktaylor
I wasn't looking forward to it a lot, but Broner-Taylor was a good fight. Not a FOTY contender like Paulie suggested, but still quality entertainment.
The Berto fight was OK, but he didn't look good at all. Upsher showed the better skills in spots, but didn't seem to have the energy to keep a decent pace.
The fight I was actually looking forward to, Matthyse-Ortiz, was a disappointment due to the ref's blunder.

Re: Al Heymon is murdering boxing

Posted: 09 Sep 2014, 09:52
by Datsue
ReggieDiggs wrote:
Blue wrote:Al Haymon creating smoke and mirrors in the middleweight division
by Robbie Bannatyne; Give Me Sport.com 08:34 Sat, 06 Sep 2014
http://www.givemesport.com/501646-al-ha ... utoplay=on
Was hoping to read about the Al/Jay Z rivalry & what exactly is the beef between these two people/groups that makes boxing business impossible.

Also f#ck me @ more promotional wars. Can someone who's like Switzerland get involved in promoting boxing please.

[Insert joke RE: Richard Schaefer & solid-gold cuckoo clocks made from stolen Jewish gold here]

Also, I had something about how Haymon might give Quillin cancer deliberately so that he'll be on a promotional par with Jacobs for their projected fight, but it needs more work.

Re: Al Heymon is murdering boxing

Posted: 09 Sep 2014, 10:14
by jujigatame
fergusg wrote:
jujigatame wrote:Al Heymon is murdering boxing

Does anyone care about this fight at all? Showtime will seemingly televise anything these days.
Which fight cards are you referring to? Are Oscar De La Hoya and Stephen Espinoza not partially responsible for the fights that Showtime airs? :confused: :??

I always thought that the promoter (Golden Boy Promotions) are responsible for the match-ups and Showtime makes the decision whether the fight card is worth airing or not… or at least they vet the matchmaking? :confused:
Showtime and GB are certainly complicit. It's just telling that whenever Showtime airs a FNF-level matchup, it's involving an Al Heymon managed fighter.

Re: Al Heymon is murdering boxing

Posted: 09 Sep 2014, 11:45
by jujigatame
And those are the generally the fighters getting awful showcase fights televised on Showtime.

HBO will occasionally have TR pull the same kind of crap on them. That Rigondeaux/Agbeko card was pretty awful. The Showtime/GB/Heymon connection has just been particularly egregious as of late.

Re: Al Heymon is murdering boxing

Posted: 09 Sep 2014, 12:51
by jockpunk
Golden Boy really doesn't have much of a choice. If they don't comply with whatever haymon wants, there goes there opportunity to promote mayweather fights as well as the million other fighters haymon has. If they lose those guys, they are done since they have pretty much just canelo and oscar's nephew.

Re: Al Heymon is murdering boxing

Posted: 09 Sep 2014, 12:52
by Datsue
fergusg wrote:
jujigatame wrote:Al Heymon is murdering boxing

Does anyone care about this fight at all? Showtime will seemingly televise anything these days.
"Broner-Taylor Peaks At Over 1 Million Viewers For SHO"
http://www.BS.com/broner-taylo ... sho--81955

"Adrien Broner continues to draw attention whenever he is involved in a fight, no matter the stakes...

"The fight—which topped a Showtime-televised tripleheader—topped out at just over 1 million viewers, good for 8th highest peak audience for a Showtime bout since 2012. The main event averaged 852,000 viewers

"Overall, the tripleheader... averaged 711,000 viewers, which is 25% higher than Showtime’s 2014 season average. It was also the second-most watched Showtime boxing event of 2014..."
& the Spice Girls sold a lot of records. I cannot believe you're so obtuse as to not get what juji was tilting at.

Yes, I know juji's rant was technically off & you can quibble over his wording, because he meant if you care about boxing as a sport, which I'm taking as a given 'cos we're on a fvcking messageboard talking about boxing. Are you willing to watch an Adrien Broner fight? I'm not. Genuinely. I've just got better things to do. Unless he gets beaten up, like. That'd get me to watch it. But live?

Fvck no.

If you watch this shite, like watching the televised executions & cancer-survivor heartwarming human interest stories in lieu of actual fights, you're a fvcking moron. & if you defend it, you're actually fvcking despicable.

PS: In reality, I am just bitter my Richard Schaefer/stolen Jewish gold cuckoo-clock line didn't get any love, but I may get over it. One day.