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last night. He won, but some of the shots that he got hit with he would've totally slipped two years ago. I think father time is catching up. Thurman, Porter, Brook(pre-stabbing), maybe even Khan and Bradley would've beaten him last night.

nobody beats him.
only ones who will come close are Keith thurman and Amir khan (although i feel danny garcia is a more worthy options, his style is easy for FMJ)

cold187 wrote:nobody beats him.
only ones who will come close are Keith thurman and Amir khan (although i feel danny garcia is a more worthy options, his style is easy for FMJ)

Yeah, nobody beats him and bayliss, what a team, you say garcia is a more worthy option, his style suits floyd, how does that make him more worthy, because he'd be easier to beat, that exact mindset is the reason boxing is in trouble, no pride anymore in ACTUALLY finding out who is the best, just back room convos with warnings about fighters not to face, their too dangerous

Pureist wrote:

cold187 wrote:nobody beats him.
only ones who will come close are Keith thurman and Amir khan (although i feel danny garcia is a more worthy options, his style is easy for FMJ)

Yeah, nobody beats him and bayliss, what a team, you say garcia is a more worthy option, his style suits floyd, how does that make him more worthy, because he'd be easier to beat, that exact mindset is the reason boxing is in trouble, no pride anymore in ACTUALLY finding out who is the best, just back room convos with warnings about fighters not to face, their too dangerous

I think you'll find he thinks Garcia's credentials are better but style wise it would be easy for Mayweather - so a poorer match up than either Thurman or Khan.

hulkmaniac wrote:last night. He won, but some of the shots that he got hit with he would've totally slipped two years ago. I think father time is catching up. Thurman, Porter, Brook(pre-stabbing), maybe even Khan and Bradley would've beaten him last night.

I swear I was listening @ first, but eventually.....

ReggieDiggs wrote:

hulkmaniac wrote:last night. He won, but some of the shots that he got hit with he would've totally slipped two years ago. I think father time is catching up. Thurman, Porter, Brook(pre-stabbing), maybe even Khan and Bradley would've beaten him last night.

I swear I was listening @ first, but eventually.....

Thanks Reggie for causing me to spit out my coffee.

A few of the top Welterweights would've beaten Mayweather

Did you mean "A few of the top Welterweights would've bitten Mayweather" ?

I think people are overrating brook after beating porter. Let's have him get some quality wins before we put him in the upper echelon. Shawn porter isn't ready and Bradley has no power. Floyd is getting older but hey, doesn't everyone. I mean, Bernard Hopkins is old as dirt and he's still winning

The manuscript is there , all rolled out and for everyone to see, Floyd will only fight in Vegas , he will pick his own judges and refs , he will only pick the guys he's confident to beat , he will run and pot shot , when closed down he will hold , elbow , and land low shots , and if he's not confident , give the nod and have a point decucted from his opponent .

He will retire undefeated , and he will never ever get over the fact that when in his prime he dodged the only other fighter who could of beat him . Oh by the way did Maidena have to give blood , and be on call for drug testing

hulkmaniac wrote:last night. He won, but some of the shots that he got hit with he would've totally slipped two years ago. I think father time is catching up. Thurman, Porter, Brook(pre-stabbing), maybe even Khan and Bradley would've beaten him last night.

Why Kell pre stabbing, because he is injured now or you think he may be damaged? He has never been the swiftest of foot has he?

Thurman, Errol Spence, Khan and Pacquiao would've beaten Floyd last night. Khan and Thurman fight at range and Pacquiao has enough speed to corner him and the arsenal to make him fight the whole fight.

i could see khan getting the next floyd fight in may, and floyd would
get that ko win he has been wanting to deliver for a while.
the thing is, khan fought collazo in may, so he can't just sit there
for a year between fights after going over a year between collazo
and that shaky julio diaz performance, can he?
brook isn't going to fight for a while and his first defense won't
be khan, and if khan is a top contender in the floyd sweepstakes
he won't fight brook either. wouldn't khan at least be put in with
an andre berto or kermit cintron type this fall?

G.McClellan wrote:Thurman, Errol Spence, Khan and Pacquiao would've beaten Floyd last night. Khan and Thurman fight at range and Pacquiao has enough speed to corner him and the arsenal to make him fight the whole fight.

spence is not world class, yet. he is still developing. whether or not the others would give floyd
a competive fight, spence doesn't belong in that mix, yet.

Thurman is the only interesting one on the list, but see it playing out like maidana

the rest??? Please floyd would 118-110 all day long
porter- NOPE
Brook?- hope youre joking, he might out hug floyd
Khan is a Con-- floyd might KO him
Bradley- floyd would put on a clinic

sucracristo wrote:i could see khan getting the next floyd fight in may, and floyd would
get that ko win he has been wanting to deliver for a while.
the thing is, khan fought collazo in may, so he can't just sit there
for a year between fights after going over a year between collazo
and that shaky julio diaz performance, can he?
brook isn't going to fight for a while and his first defense won't
be khan, and if khan is a top contender in the floyd sweepstakes
he won't fight brook either. wouldn't khan at least be put in with
an andre berto or kermit cintron type this fall?

i really don't get why people think floyd would ko khan he's had 1 ko in 8 years hatton ortiz was a sucker punch , khan has weaknesses but not ones floyd will take advantage of , the way floyd took right hands vs chino who isn't the fastest makes me think there's as much chance of khan hurt floyd as the other way round .

stevedoc wrote:khan has weaknesses but not ones floyd will take advantage of

floyd has been hit solidly by harder punchers than maidana and never really hurt badly,
too many times to list.
khan has been knocked out by brandies prescott and danny garcia and dropped most recently
by julio diaz and in the past by willie lamomd, and rocked squirly by many more including his last
opponent. i don't get why you don't get why people think khan has a glass jaw.
it doesn't take floyd to ko khan. khan agreed to a fight with alexander and then backed out.
khan himself doesn't even believe he can avoid getting ko'd by the top 10 guys in the division.
he could prove everybody wrong by fighting guerrero or thurman or bradley or marquez or
porter or alexander but we all know why he won't...
floyd just beat maidana a 2nd time after dominating canelo, guerrero, and cotto.
who is the best welter khan has beat, again? he won't fight ONE top 10 guy to earn
his floyd shot?

sucracristo wrote:

stevedoc wrote:khan has weaknesses but not ones floyd will take advantage of

floyd has been hit solidly by harder punchers than maidana and never really hurt badly,
too many times to list.
khan has been knocked out by brandies prescott and danny garcia and dropped most recently
by julio diaz and in the past by willie lamomd, and rocked squirly by many more including his last
opponent. i don't get why you don't get why people think khan has a glass jaw.
it doesn't take floyd to ko khan. khan agreed to a fight with alexander and then backed out.
khan himself doesn't even believe he can avoid getting ko'd by the top 10 guys in the division.
he could prove everybody wrong by fighting guerrero or thurman or bradley or marquez or
porter or alexander but we all know why he won't...

Because of the money he would like to make and the fact that floyd cannot hurt him as badly as a marquez or thurman, no?

Another loss might put amir right back in the doldrums ............... I think he really regrets the alexander situation but well, I would like to see him have a crack at floyd and if he doesn't shit his pants and keeps it together new improved hill khan, well.......

macaca wrote: Because of the money he would like to make and the fact that floyd cannot hurt him as badly as a marquez or thurman, no?

Another loss might put amir right back in the doldrums ............... I think he really regrets the alexander situation but well, I would like to see him have a crack at floyd and if he doesn't poo his pants and keeps it together new improved hill khan, well.......

floyd just beat maidana a 2nd time, after dominating canelo, guerrero and cotto. he's done until may.
khan hasn't fought anybody in the top 10 and if he feels that badly about alexander there is nothing
stopping him from fighting him in october or november. it doesn't take thurman to ko or drop khan.
it certainly appears like he's afraid to fight top 10 welters.

sucracristo wrote:

macaca wrote: Because of the money he would like to make and the fact that floyd cannot hurt him as badly as a marquez or thurman, no?

Another loss might put amir right back in the doldrums ............... I think he really regrets the alexander situation but well, I would like to see him have a crack at floyd and if he doesn't poo his pants and keeps it together new improved hill khan, well.......

floyd just beat maidana a 2nd time, after dominating canelo, guerrero and cotto. he's done until may.
khan hasn't fought anybody in the top 10 and if he feels that badly about alexander there is nothing
stopping him from fighting him in october or november. it doesn't take thurman to ko or drop khan.
it certainly appears like he's afraid to fight top 10 welters.

I think he feels in a position to have a go with floyd and a loss now would completely fornicate up a life changing win or lose pay day

macaca wrote: I think he feels in a position to have a go with floyd and a loss now would completely eff up a life changing win or lose pay day

an extremely likely loss. he's smart to take a year off 3 fights in a row because
the last place he belongs is in a ring with a top 10 welter

Brook would be an easy work for Mayweather, age so far seems to be mayweathers worse enemy, he looked worse then in any of his previous fights last saturday, as of now its only Pacquiao or Bradley are the only names that I think CAN beat Floyd, don't mean they will but they have the best chance of doing it, everyone else, Khan, Thurman would be an easy work for Floyd.

sucracristo wrote:

macaca wrote: I think he feels in a position to have a go with floyd and a loss now would completely eff up a life changing win or lose pay day

an extremely likely loss. he's smart to take a year off 3 fights in a row because
the last place he belongs is in a ring with a top 10 welter

Don't be silly.

He's clearly a top ten guy, and it's not like there's a ton of other options for Floyd right now. From a business perspective there is zero reason to fight before Floyd.

punchoutsb wrote: Don't be silly.

He's clearly a top ten guy

at welter? based on WHAT?!?! he has a very shaky win after getting dropped by julio diaz
and also got rocked by collazo and chickened out of a fight with alexander.
what do you base your claim on that he is a top 10 welter?
if he won't fight gurrero, thurman, bradley, marquez, porter, alexander, brook, then why
would you put him in the same sentence with floyd or pac? i'm not so sure brandon rios
or alvarado wouldn't put his lights out. before you call yourself top 10, you need to beat
a top 10 or at least dominate one of the 11-15 guys. the only reason khan would
get the fight is because he would be an acceptable opponent for showtime and less risk for
floyd than fighting a top 10 guy. i totally agree. khan has a lottery ticket in his pocket
because he has enough supporters to get him a fight he doesn't deserve and there is
no way he is going to fight ANYBODY until he sees whether he wins the lottery. if he
doesn't get the floyd fight, and fights anyone in the top 15, he gets ko'd.