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I know this has been probably done loads but was just thinking about this match up which could take place next year (I won't hold my breath) I feel this fight is 4 or 5 years to late ive always felt in the past that mayweather would of won by frustrating pacman and picking him off, I know both have declined but seeing mayweather getting caught more than ever I feel pacquiao would have a good chance anyone agree or disagree?

Mayweather has declined but so has Pacquiao.I still see a clear wide UD for FMJ.
But I would still be bored with all the clinching.

I think a lateral moving southpaw is floyds worst nightmare, he always rolls his weight on to his right leg and dips to his right side in defence against the ropes, perfect for a southpaw with speed and movement ( RG has none of that ) he attacks from awkward angles making him difficult to predict, handled a boxer in Bradley quite easily.

I think its highly unlikely Floyd & Bob will ever be able to comes to terms with each other enough to make this fight possible so idk the point in doing another "who gonna win" every 6 months poll about it.

Floyd seems too hittable now for someone who throws, has pretty good stamina and can be as accurate as Pacquiao. If Floyd thought Maidana punches at awkward angles, Pacquiao does it and is accurate and has better defense than Maidana. Not saying Floyd would lose but it's more intriguing now.

ReggieDiggs wrote:I think its highly unlikely Floyd & Bob will ever be able to comes to terms with each other enough to make this fight possible so idk the point in doing another "who gonna win" every 6 months poll about it.

The fight will most likely happen -- too much $$$ for all parties involved.

Cutman Scabbers wrote:

ReggieDiggs wrote:I think its highly unlikely Floyd & Bob will ever be able to comes to terms with each other enough to make this fight possible so idk the point in doing another "who gonna win" every 6 months poll about it.

The fight will most likely happen -- too much $$$ for all parties involved.

It was too much money about 4 years ago. Its much less money nowadays. I don't think its definitely not happening for what its worth. I just don't think its very likely cuz Floyd & Bob have deep wounds from their relationship it seems that goes beyond dollar signs. I believe Floyd has said "some money ain't worth making" or something along those lines & I think money made with Bob would qualify as such to him.

Pureist wrote:I think a lateral moving southpaw is floyds worst nightmare, he always rolls his weight on to his right leg and dips to his right side in defence against the ropes, perfect for a southpaw with speed and movement ( RG has none of that ) he attacks from awkward angles making him difficult to predict, handled a boxer in Bradley quite easily.

agreed, and speed is one of the most important factors (why everyone is saying Khan would do well too)

All the Maidana fights showed is that Manny has more of a chance than people want to admit. Maidana looks like a worldbeater thanks to Floyd. Floyd tried to employ pages Alexander's strategy and the best boxer of this generation couldn't duplicate what Alexander did so easy even with Kenny Bayless helping him out when he holds.

ReggieDiggs wrote:

Cutman Scabbers wrote:

ReggieDiggs wrote:I think its highly unlikely Floyd & Bob will ever be able to comes to terms with each other enough to make this fight possible so idk the point in doing another "who gonna win" every 6 months poll about it.

The fight will most likely happen -- too much $$$ for all parties involved.

It was too much money about 4 years ago. Its much less money nowadays. I don't think its definitely not happening for what its worth. I just don't think its very likely cuz Floyd & Bob have deep wounds from their relationship it seems that goes beyond dollar signs. I believe Floyd has said "some money ain't worth making" or something along those lines & I think money made with Bob would qualify as such to him.

Why would it be less now than 4 years ago? I figure it's worth even more now.

"Floyd & Bob" may have their differences, but there would be a lot more people involved & interested in making it happen for the $$$

Mayweather needs to stick to fighting SLOW fighters...best way to keep that 0

i bet his next fight is Danny "Dog Sh1t" Garcia

Cutman Scabbers wrote: Why would it be less now than 4 years ago? I figure it's worth even more now.

Cuz less people wanna see it now & inflation is a bitch.

"Floyd & Bob" may have their differences, but there would be a lot more people involved & interested in making it happen for the $$$

Sure, but up til now Floyd's & Bob's differences (@ least imo) have seemed to nearly single handedly stop this fight from happening. I think its more likely that that trend will continue & prevail, but again I'm not saying it definitely ain't gonna happen we just seem to be on opposite sides of the coin from "most likely" to "highly unlikely" thus even you are leaving open the possibility it won't happen.

Dear God, move this to BOTP. They will never fight. And " dog sh!t Danny Garcia" would be a really tough fight for manny.

And that fight is worth maybe 100 million less than it was 4 years ago.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Dear God, move this to BOTP. They will never fight. And " dog sh!t Danny Garcia" would be a really tough fight for manny.

And that fight is worth maybe 100 million less than it was 4 years ago.

I have to agree.This fight is worth less in my opinion than the FMJ-Canelo fight.
4 years ago it would of set records that would of held for years.

if Maidana can win 3-4 rounds, i'd give Pac 4-5 the bare minimum with his more varied attack style, faster feet and better defense. Pac's winning or losing would depend on his stamina and Floyd's success in countering.

he has no killer instinct anymore but I think Pacquiao has better footwork than Floyd at this point in their careers as well.

IKSRTFO wrote:All the Maidana fights showed is that Manny has more of a chance than people want to admit. Maidana looks like a worldbeater thanks to Floyd. Floyd tried to employ pages Alexander's strategy and the best boxer of this generation couldn't duplicate what Alexander did so easy even with Kenny Bayless helping him out when he holds.

I don't think Devon could duplicate what happened the first time cuz I don't think Marcos is the same fighter. Marcos ain't a bitch or anything. The guy is a world class fighter who's won abc belts in two divisions ffs. Everyone turns into a worthless pos fighter once Floyd beats them, its hilarious.

ReggieDiggs wrote:

IKSRTFO wrote:All the Maidana fights showed is that Manny has more of a chance than people want to admit. Maidana looks like a worldbeater thanks to Floyd. Floyd tried to employ pages Alexander's strategy and the best boxer of this generation couldn't duplicate what Alexander did so easy even with Kenny Bayless helping him out when he holds.

I don't think Devon could duplicate what happened the first time cuz I don't think Marcos is the same fighter. Marcos ain't a bitch or anything. The guy is a world class fighter who's won abc belts in two divisions ffs. Everyone turns into a worthless pos fighter once Floyd beats them, its hilarious.

He was a worthless fighter when the first fight was announced. Everyone believed Floyd would toy with him the first time. Just so happened, Maidana put up a good enough fight to make people believe he's better than he's actually is. This is the same guy who was stunned against one eyed Morales while trying to put him away.

The ref allowed the fight to be fought via the rules the 1st time, yesterday was an orchestrated win for floyd and bayliss

IKSRTFO wrote:

ReggieDiggs wrote:

IKSRTFO wrote:All the Maidana fights showed is that Manny has more of a chance than people want to admit. Maidana looks like a worldbeater thanks to Floyd. Floyd tried to employ pages Alexander's strategy and the best boxer of this generation couldn't duplicate what Alexander did so easy even with Kenny Bayless helping him out when he holds.

I don't think Devon could duplicate what happened the first time cuz I don't think Marcos is the same fighter. Marcos ain't a bitch or anything. The guy is a world class fighter who's won abc belts in two divisions ffs. Everyone turns into a worthless pos fighter once Floyd beats them, its hilarious.

He was a worthless fighter when the first fight was announced. .

Floyd ain't fought a worthless fighter in a long f#cking time. Marcos surely isn't one.

Pureist wrote:The ref allowed the fight to be fought via the rules the 1st time, yesterday was an orchestrated win for floyd and bayliss

Are you fornicating kidding? Headbutts, low blows, rabbit punches every single round? That isn't anything close to the rules.

Pureist wrote:The ref allowed the fight to be fought via the rules the 1st time, yesterday was an orchestrated win for floyd and bayliss

Maidana barely tried. Blame him, not Bayless.

ReggieDiggs wrote:
Floyd ain't fought a worthless fighter in a long f#cking time. Marcos surely isn't one.

Victor Ortiz is worthless.


Maidana maybe not worthless, but not some future HOFer like you guys are trying to make him out to be.

I don't see how Floyd beating Maidana is impressive while the same people think Pacquiao wasn't impressive against Bradley.

IKSRTFO wrote: Victor Ortiz is worthless.


Maidana maybe not worthless, but not some future HOFer like you guys are trying to make him out to be.

You got a sh!tty view of the sport if you think a guy who reached the heights Victor reached is worthless. However you view his recent failures the guy was a legit top ten guy worst f#cking case. If boxrec is accurate there are probably 1,600+ guys @ 147 who fight in any given year & Victor was among the top 1/2 of 1% of those guys. If Victor is worthless there are about a thousand guys who should kill themselves. 95% of the guys we talk about day in, day out are outliers like a mfer & the best the sport has to offer. The guys getting beat these days by the likes of Floyd, Manny & Andre & the rest of the p4p are freaks of f#cking nature in their own right more often than not & they are just some margin of skill level lower than these even more freakish cats like Floyd.

ReggieDiggs wrote:

IKSRTFO wrote: Victor Ortiz is worthless.


Maidana maybe not worthless, but not some future HOFer like you guys are trying to make him out to be.

You got a sh!tty view of the sport if you think a guy who reached the heights Victor reached is worthless. However you view his recent failures the guy was a legit top ten guy worst f#cking case. If boxrec is accurate there are probably 1,600+ guys @ 147 who fight in any given year & Victor was among the top 1/2 of 1% of those guys. If Victor is worthless there are about a thousand guys who should kill themselves. 95% of the guys we talk about day in, day out are outliers like a mfer & the best the sport has to offer. The guys getting beat these days by the likes of Floyd, Manny & Andre & the rest of the p4p are freaks of f#cking nature in their own right more often than not & they are just some margin of skill level lower than these even more freakish cats like Floyd.

Victor Ortiz is worthless

IKSRTFO wrote:

ReggieDiggs wrote:

IKSRTFO wrote: Victor Ortiz is worthless.


Maidana maybe not worthless, but not some future HOFer like you guys are trying to make him out to be.

You got a sh!tty view of the sport if you think a guy who reached the heights Victor reached is worthless. However you view his recent failures the guy was a legit top ten guy worst f#cking case. If boxrec is accurate there are probably 1,600+ guys @ 147 who fight in any given year & Victor was among the top 1/2 of 1% of those guys. If Victor is worthless there are about a thousand guys who should kill themselves. 95% of the guys we talk about day in, day out are outliers like a mfer & the best the sport has to offer. The guys getting beat these days by the likes of Floyd, Manny & Andre & the rest of the p4p are freaks of f#cking nature in their own right more often than not & they are just some margin of skill level lower than these even more freakish cats like Floyd.

Victor Ortiz is worthless

Then you got a sh!tty view of the sport.