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what are your thoughts on our Aussie Great?

Green helped create interest in Oz boxing again and fought in some of the biggest fights in Oz boxing history.

TrainInsane wrote:Green helped create interest in Oz boxing again and fought in some of the biggest fights in Oz boxing history.

And Fought the biggest names out there didnt he? more names than that Mundine guy.

Great businessman,average boxer who achieved more than his talent warranted. If he was American or European or didn't have the money he had he would have been a journeyman. He's rich which is great for him but comparing him to KT is disrespectful to KT though.

DA GOOSE wrote:Great businessman,average boxer who achieved more than his talent warranted. If he was American or European or didn't have the money he had he would have been a journeyman. He's rich which is great for him but comparing him to KT is disrespectful to KT though.

The OP said "since Kostya". Don't you understand what that means?

It means in his opinion Kostya is the best until the current day and he's raising the question is Green the best since Kostya. I can't explain it any simpler than that. Hope you get the meaning now.

DA GOOSE wrote:Great businessman,average boxer who achieved more than his talent warranted. If he was American or European or didn't have the money he had he would have been a journeyman. He's rich which is great for him but comparing him to KT is disrespectful to KT though.

He's not comparing him to Kostya

DA GOOSE wrote:Great businessman,average boxer who achieved more than his talent warranted.

Pretty much this.

bash for cash wrote:

DA GOOSE wrote:Great businessman,average boxer who achieved more than his talent warranted. If he was American or European or didn't have the money he had he would have been a journeyman. He's rich which is great for him but comparing him to KT is disrespectful to KT though.

The OP said "since Kostya". Don't you understand what that means?

It means in his opinion Kostya is the best until the current day and he's raising the question is Green the best since Kostya. I can't explain it any simpler than that. Hope you get the meaning now.

Well the OP doesn't follow boxing very closely. Green has made his name off Mundine(not a great boxer himself)who flogged him. His best win is a 1st round KO of RJJ Dec 2009 way past prime. Darchynian,Bika,Katsidis,Peden( maybe a little before Kostya or around the same time) are all better than Green. I would even say Daniel Geale is better than him(Sylvester is on a par with Beyer maybe slightly below and Sturm a super champion was better IMO) and Geale beat them in their countries. I would add Sam Soliman to the list too now. They may not have won all the time but have faced far superior opposition and even though beaten in some cases have performed credibly. Green won 1 round against Tarver has won 1 legitimate title in the worst title fight in history and didn't even defend it once. So IMO no Green is not the best Aussie fighter since Kostya far from it but has marketed himself brilliantly.

DA GOOSE wrote:

bash for cash wrote:

DA GOOSE wrote:Great businessman,average boxer who achieved more than his talent warranted. If he was American or European or didn't have the money he had he would have been a journeyman. He's rich which is great for him but comparing him to KT is disrespectful to KT though.

The OP said "since Kostya". Don't you understand what that means?

It means in his opinion Kostya is the best until the current day and he's raising the question is Green the best since Kostya. I can't explain it any simpler than that. Hope you get the meaning now.

Well the OP doesn't follow boxing very closely. Green has made his name off Mundine(not a great boxer himself)who flogged him. His best win is a 1st round KO of RJJ Dec 2009 way past prime. Darchynian,Bika,Katsidis,Peden( maybe a little before Kostya or around the same time) are all better than Green. I would even say Daniel Geale is better than him(Sylvester is on a par with Beyer maybe slightly below and Sturm a super champion was better IMO) and Geale beat them in their countries. I would add Sam Soliman to the list too now. They may not have won all the time but have faced far superior opposition and even though beaten in some cases have performed credibly. Green won 1 round against Tarver has won 1 legitimate title in the worst title fight in history and didn't even defend it once. So IMO no Green is not the best Aussie fighter since Kostya far from it but has marketed himself brilliantly.

A pile of words but you missed the point entirely. The OP wasn't comparing Green to Kostya.

I agree that Danny was the best thing in aussie boxing for only a short period of time , up until he put in a half heart-ed effort against Mundine. He agreed to fight at the set weight and as a "professional" sportsman should have prepared better or not taken the fight, instead of the excuses about being drained! I guess the money offered was the sole motivation.
Aussie boxing has done more for Danny Green (Green Machine Promotions) than he has done for Aussie boxing.
I agree with Da Gooses last comment and fell the idea that DG is soley the best since Kostya is discrediting Aussie Boxing.

Danny Green was speedy back in his day.
But damn, you Aussies are overlooking the NEXT best thing in Australian boxing.
Being from New Zealand I don't usually acknowledge Australian talent
But that Aussie bloke Jeff Horn's looking good in the boxing ring so far.

Danny did bring boxing to the mainstream in Oz which is great but i cant like the guy. his wierd fight introduction dance thing he did, being called "undisputed" while holding the IBO title, the briggs fight, the Siaca fight, his weight demands it all just makes me cringe. good on him for making decent coin tho

Green made a good living out of a very hard, unforgiving sport that chews most up and spits them out again. Don't forget he fought in some of the biggest fights in Australian boxing history.

Boxboxerboxing wrote:I agree that Danny was the best thing in aussie boxing for only a short period of time , up until he put in a half heart-ed effort against Mundine. He agreed to fight at the set weight and as a "professional" sportsman should have prepared better or not taken the fight, instead of the excuses about being drained! I guess the money offered was the sole motivation.
Aussie boxing has done more for Danny Green (Green Machine Promotions) than he has done for Aussie boxing.
I agree with Da Gooses last comment and fell the idea that DG is soley the best since Kostya is discrediting Aussie Boxing.

He didn't even realise he was weight drained until 2 years after he fought Mundine.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/sport/exfact ... 44191.html

Feb 2008. He beat me fair and square. Then big noting how he has bigger fish to fry when he beats Garay(He retired before the fight without defending his belt).
He is a O.K boxer a great businessman and a master of media manipulation but their has been alot better Aussie fighters since KT than Danny Green. Darchynian is obvious belts won and opponents faced. And the others who I have mentioned before you could nearly add Billy Dib to the list at least he tried to avenge the defeat to the guy who took his title and even defended his title.

Green did huge things for boxing in this country and in particular bring ing back to the main stream. Sure, Mundine assisted in this up until their bout but I think Green continued things going with fights such as RJJ and Tarver. Keeping interest in the media.
I dont think anyone is saying he's the best fighetr since KT but he has done good things for the sport. He is a business man though and no doubt he has domne extremely well out of it and deserves everything he has. One thing i ma dissapointed with though is I hoped he contiuned on with his promotional brand and gave th exposure to a heap of young fighters this country has. Green Machine Promotions put on a great show with huge backing and i wouldve liked to have seem those shows continue with Greeny as their face, not as a fighter.

Green did briefly seem to bring back pay per view in Australia. Although really the prices were a rip off. It sad that a boxer like Junior Talipeau - who seemed to be advertised and hyped up in pretty much every World of Boxing magazine I ever bought - gets mauled as soon as he steps up. Stopped in a round last fight. Damien Hooper would be well advised to come to the UK to get some proper experience.

The best thing since Kostya not sure about that, but Green was a [ watch him spar that madman JAMES TONEY] warrior great for aussie boxing for sure , JUST WISH HE'D STOP WITH THIS CRAP ABOUT FIGHTING MUNDINE IN A REMATCH ,CRUISERWEIGHT'S DON'T CHALLENGE JR MIDDLEWEIGHT'S FOR THE WEIGHT SEPERATING THESE TWO WEIGHT CLASSE'S APPROX 22KG.
BOXING IS ABOUT FIGHTING PEOPLE YOU OWN SIZE, PERIOD..................

[quote="mattsplat"]being called "undisputed" while holding the IBO title/quote]
that always used to bother the shit outta me. I guess average joe at the pub didn't know any better so no one cared.
Danny was fun to watch, had great power (especially at 168) and seemslike a decent bloke. I would say if he didn't have huge backing in WA, or if he was American or European he would not have done so well money wise. All in all he had a decent career though, interim SMW champ and LHW champ, plus two reigns as paper champ at cruiser, nothing to scoff at

Not sure what your mean about the best thing. Definitely not the best boxer that's for sure, we have had better fighters than green since Kostya. I also believe 100% without Anthony Mundine, Green would be like every other Aussie one time champion and be largely unknown to the general public. Thanks to great timing and PR he was able to play the good guy to Mundines villain. Mundines bad guy act was a better thing like it or not for aussie boxing than Green was, whether you like what he did or not as his competition took a real step down after Kessler, he gave plenty of Aussie fighters a great pay day and like I said before without Mindine I very much doubt Green would be the multimillionaire he is now.

p4p1 wrote:Not sure what your mean about the best thing. Definitely not the best boxer that's for sure, we have had better fighters than green since Kostya. I also believe 100% without Anthony Mundine, Green would be like every other Aussie one time champion and be largely unknown to the general public. Thanks to great timing and PR he was able to play the good guy to Mundines villain. Mundines bad guy act was a better thing like it or not for aussie boxing than Green was, whether you like what he did or not as his competition took a real step down after Kessler, he gave plenty of Aussie fighters a great pay day and like I said before without Mindine I very much doubt Green would be the multimillionaire he is now.

WELL STATED

Green may have made his name off mundines back but he did a lot with that name since. He is a bousehold name australia wide and brings the sport into the mainstream and makes the casual observer feel like an expert. Lets be honest boxing is not exactly a big sport in australia compared to say cricket of afl. Green was only ever an average boxer but he had a granite chin until tarver (had only been on the canvas once and it was a flash knockdown). He was brutal at super middle and brutal at light heavy. His power was even still pretty good at cruiser though not enough for him to be able to bully like he could at the lower weights. Without the green and mundine build up boxing wouldnt be even a third of what it is in australia today.

I think green rates high because he used his name to further the sport. He mortgaged everything he owned to jones jr out here and tarver. Sure jones jr was badly faded but what were the chances of any i. Oz getting to see the living legend in rjj live without green?

Plus he has had a decent career not the best but decent. I personally would have rather see him go back down to light heavy like he planned before the cameron fight. I think he would have done very well at light heavy. Again not the best boxer but i would have picked him to beat most of the top ten at light heavy. He would have likely won a legit title made a couple of defences or even a unification against probably the weakest of the champs then rode off into the sunset. That would have certainly ranked his career right up there in my opinion.

OK Green is nowhere the best thing in Aussie boxing since KT. Glad we have sorted that out.

IMO, Geale is the best Australian born fighter since KT, unified mw champ is a hell of a achievement. Darchinyan is probably the best though if we count guys who made Australia home. Green and Mundine are on about the same level as Dib and Bika. But both were far more famous

Dear Mods,kind regards
can you please delete this ridiculous thread. Posters from other countries are laughing at us.
Yours sincerely and respectfully
DA GOOSE

DA GOOSE wrote:Dear Mods,kind regards
can you please delete this ridiculous thread. Posters from other countries are laughing at us.
Yours sincerely and respectfully
DA GOOSE

I second that motion, this thread is making us look stupider than we really are. And that's saying something