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George Groves comeback

Posted: 20 Sep 2014, 15:08
by Neil Gee
I can't find a thread for this, apologies if I'm stepping on anybody's toes, but is anybody watching this card at Wembley?

Re: George Groves comeback

Posted: 20 Sep 2014, 15:11
by Neil Gee
Jim Watt on commentary!

Re: George Groves comeback

Posted: 20 Sep 2014, 15:20
by Neil Gee
I can't catch the name of either of the fighters in the first bout, but the British guy just won the super-flyweight IBF International title, whatever that is.

Re: George Groves comeback

Posted: 20 Sep 2014, 15:27
by Neil Gee
Sofiane Bellahcene vs Gamal Yafai

Re: George Groves comeback

Posted: 20 Sep 2014, 16:10
by Boxing Prospect
Neil Gee wrote:I can't catch the name of either of the fighters in the first bout, but the British guy just won the super-flyweight IBF International title, whatever that is.
Kal Yafai was the guy who won that one :)

Re: George Groves comeback

Posted: 20 Sep 2014, 16:17
by Neil Gee
Thank you BP. Haha There is life out there after all!

Luke Campbell vrs Krzysztof Szot is looking like a good learning fight for Campbell. There's been some good learning fights for our prospects on this card.

Groves is promising us a spectacular ring entrance!

Re: George Groves comeback

Posted: 20 Sep 2014, 16:22
by Boxing Prospect
Szot is a REALLY good journeyman, taking him on this early is great for Campbell who has not looked that great so far.

Re: George Groves comeback

Posted: 20 Sep 2014, 16:31
by Neil Gee
Campbell not looking devastating but Szot is an ace survivor. This is going to go the distance.

How do you think Groves will be after Froch knockout? Will it affect his confidence and how much?

Re: George Groves comeback

Posted: 20 Sep 2014, 16:33
by Boxing Prospect
Very, very small bet on Rebrasse. Think Groves flattens him but odds there were stupid

Re: George Groves comeback

Posted: 20 Sep 2014, 16:36
by Neil Gee
What sort of odds are we talking about?

Re: George Groves comeback

Posted: 20 Sep 2014, 16:38
by expe
Neil Gee wrote:Campbell not looking devastating but Szot is an ace survivor. This is going to go the distance.

How do you think Groves will be after Froch knockout? Will it affect his confidence and how much?
Campbell stops him, Michael Alexander jumps in far too early in the 7th.

It might affect Groves, but once he takes a couple of shots he'll be fine.

Re: George Groves comeback

Posted: 20 Sep 2014, 16:39
by Boxing Prospect
Neil Gee wrote:What sort of odds are we talking about?
1/14 for Groves outright. I've used Betfair to lay him at that.

2/7 for Groves by stoppage.

Pathetic odds.

Re: George Groves comeback

Posted: 20 Sep 2014, 16:43
by Neil Gee
expe wrote:
Neil Gee wrote:Campbell not looking devastating but Szot is an ace survivor. This is going to go the distance.

How do you think Groves will be after Froch knockout? Will it affect his confidence and how much?
Campbell stops him, Michael Alexander jumps in far too early in the 7th.

It might affect Groves, but once he takes a couple of shots he'll be fine.
Groves really fooled me last time out, I believed him when he said he had been stopped unjustly in the first fight and I expected him to carry on with the same level of self-belief in the rematch, but obviously he didn't.

He fooled me big time (and maybe fooled himself) so I'm interested to see how he handles Rebrasse.
Self-belief is a big part of boxing and Groves had it in abundance in the first Froch fight, but is that self-belief really still there?

Re: George Groves comeback

Posted: 20 Sep 2014, 16:46
by Neil Gee
Boxing Prospect wrote:
Neil Gee wrote:What sort of odds are we talking about?
1/14 for Groves outright. I've used Betfair to lay him at that.

2/7 for Groves by stoppage.

Pathetic odds.
Yeh it does sound ludicrous looking at Rebrasse's record, they say he hasn't faced anyone of Grove's class but the only real proof we have of Grove's class are the two matches with Froch. Is this the same Groves?

Re: George Groves comeback

Posted: 20 Sep 2014, 17:08
by Neil Gee
First round to Groves...

Re: George Groves comeback

Posted: 20 Sep 2014, 17:16
by Boxing Prospect
Nick Halling is a horrible commentator. Groves winning easily but taking a few few crafty counters and throwing A LOT himself.

Re: George Groves comeback

Posted: 20 Sep 2014, 17:37
by Neil Gee
Make it 8-0, maybe 7-0 with one level to be generous, but the last 4 rounds are going to be a test of Grove's stanima against this guy.

Re: George Groves comeback

Posted: 20 Sep 2014, 17:41
by ikorolev
I can't believe how unimpressive Groves is against this B level fighter. Anthony Dirrell is right: Groves doesn't deserve a title shot at this time.

Re: George Groves comeback

Posted: 20 Sep 2014, 17:44
by Boxing Prospect
I think I must be generous, 7-3 Groves

Re: George Groves comeback

Posted: 20 Sep 2014, 17:49
by Neil Gee
9-0 with 2 even (to be generous).

Re: George Groves comeback

Posted: 20 Sep 2014, 17:52
by SNG
ikorolev wrote:I can't believe how unimpressive Groves is against this B level fighter. Anthony Dirrell is right: Groves doesn't deserve a title shot at this time.
Do you only get title shots for winning in style now?

Re: George Groves comeback

Posted: 20 Sep 2014, 17:59
by ikorolev
SNG wrote:
ikorolev wrote:I can't believe how unimpressive Groves is against this B level fighter. Anthony Dirrell is right: Groves doesn't deserve a title shot at this time.
Do you only get title shots for winning in style now?
No, you are supposed to be getting title shots by beating top 10 opponents, and when you fight nobodies, you need to at least look good.

Re: George Groves comeback

Posted: 20 Sep 2014, 18:02
by Neil Gee
Boxing Prospect wrote:I think I must be generous, 7-3 Groves
I couldn't give Rebrasse a round because he didn't do enough offensively, though he was tough and countered competently. I gave him a share of the last but couldn't say he won any of them.

Re: George Groves comeback

Posted: 20 Sep 2014, 18:03
by SNG
ikorolev wrote:
SNG wrote:
ikorolev wrote:I can't believe how unimpressive Groves is against this B level fighter. Anthony Dirrell is right: Groves doesn't deserve a title shot at this time.
Do you only get title shots for winning in style now?
No, you are supposed to be getting title shots by beating top 10 opponents, and when you fight nobodies, you need to at least look good.
Is this not for some intercontinental belt or something, isn't he top ten in that belts rankings?

Re: George Groves comeback

Posted: 20 Sep 2014, 18:07
by ikorolev
SNG wrote:
ikorolev wrote:I can't believe how unimpressive Groves is against this B level fighter. Anthony Dirrell is right: Groves doesn't deserve a title shot at this time.

-- Do you only get title shots for winning in style now?

-- No, you are supposed to be getting title shots by beating top 10 opponents, and when you fight nobodies, you need to at least look good.
Is this not for some intercontinental belt or something, isn't he top ten in that belts rankings?
I am talking about a real title shot. WBC is now expected to order Dirrell to defend against Groves.