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whats going on with goldenboy promotions? the only decent shows I can see are Hopkins v kovalev which is a co promotion and canelo alvarez has a date in December so whats going on with the rest of their fighters?

They are all in line to fight Salka

thatllbeme wrote:whats going on with goldenboy promotions? the only decent shows I can see are Hopkins v kovalev which is a co promotion and canelo alvarez has a date in December so whats going on with the rest of their fighters?

They sacked Schaefer (as sleazy as he might be) and De la Hoya decided to run things. Thats about the gist of it.

why is Schaefer sleezy? He ran the business and saved it when DE la hoya was dressing like a fad and doing drugs for days..my father worked with schaefer at UBS for years and although he knew nothing about boxing, he is a good guy

bigznyc wrote:why is Schaefer sleezy? He ran the business and saved it when DE la hoya was dressing like a fad and doing drugs for days..my father worked with schaefer at UBS for years and although he knew nothing about boxing, he is a good guy

I'm not saying he is but a lot seem to think he is. I thought he was a far better CEO than De la Hoya is.

bigznyc wrote:why is Schaefer sleezy?

apparently he tried to negotiate the sale of golden boy to haymon and even drew up
contracts while oscar was in rehab without his permission. as ceo, schaefer was fiscally
beholden to golden boy and oscar at the time, so if this is at all true it could put him
behind bars. the settlement of schaefer's shares in gb are being disputed in mediation
right now partly because of that and partly because of other boxer contracts.
other than that, he seems like a nice family man.

GB has two smaller cards in october before hopkins-kovalev.

Sorry, I dont trust a paranoid crackhead crossdresser..

Can Oscar actually run a big business?

Arum always said that the Golden Boy isn't "the brightest bulb that shines."
It's doubtful Oscar has the acumen or desire to do the real front-office work needed to make the company prosper.
Someone will be doing the real dirty work there in short order or GBP will go down the tubes.

SenorPipino wrote:Can Oscar actually run a big business?

Arum always said that the Golden Boy isn't "the brightest bulb that shines."
It's doubtful Oscar has the acumen or desire to do the real front-office work needed to make the company prosper.
Someone will be doing the real dirty work there in short order or GBP will go down the tubes.

I would hope & think he's got some cats around him advising him as to the pros & cons of various moves so its not just his hit in the head too many times brain working on sh!t.

I thought that most had signed a managerial contract with hayman but would still have a promotional contract with goldenboy?

thatllbeme wrote:I thought that most had signed a managerial contract with hayman but would still have a promotional contract with goldenboy?

I think the problem was the they were on a "fight by fight" kinda of deal with golden boy

beatdown337 wrote:

thatllbeme wrote:I thought that most had signed a managerial contract with hayman but would still have a promotional contract with goldenboy?

I think the problem was the they were on a "fight by fight" kinda of deal with golden boy

those boxers could be on those GB cards no matter who the manager was, so i think you'd
have to be nuts to choose haymon as a manager over golden boy as a promoter.
if forced to make the choice, and the only one who seems to be forcing the choice
seems to be haymon, then in the end haymon will lose. he's burned too many bridges
as it is and if he finally gets this divorce he seems to be fighting for from golden boy,
his boxers really have very few options, unless he could get control of mayweather's new
company, which would be illegal to do as a manager. i just don't see how haymon is as
essential a part of the equation as people present him to be, except for the voodoo spells
he seems to cast over his boxers.

fergusg wrote: instead being promoted by a Richard Schaefer led Mayweather Promotions on the NBC Sports network.

that doesn't sound like this year or even next year, and mayweather will be retired after that
as a boxer so there aren't going to be ppv undercards for whatever fighters they have signed
to fight on. how many fighters does mayweather promotions officially have signed to promotional
contracts currently? who is promoting flyd's next 2 fights? again, i really don't see any intrinsic value
in what haymon is offering if that is the plan that makes him as a manager comparable to what GB
has to offer right now and moving forward.

verballistic wrote:I think "Mayweather Promotions" is short on signed fighters & long on hype. One of their "future stars" recently got beaten by a scrub.

there are what are known as economic costs to everything.
in other words, if you have money to invest, how does one investment compare to another?
schaefer has the ability to make a lot of money in real estate and managed investing.
if floyd had any sense, he could just drop all his money in relatively safe annuities
and earn around 15% in perpetuity, and that 15% would be an ungodly sum for one guy,
even if he had child support payments to make.
when floyd isn't fighting anymore, i don't see any guarantee that the guys he has
in his gym are going to be this great investment. it looks to me like he would be
forgoing returns he could earn investing elsewhere with less work. and then why would
he turn his promotional company over to haymon and schaefer, who already apparently
conspired to dick odlh out of golden boy while he was in rehab? if floyd is a promoter
then he would have to be the biggest fool to just let haymon and schaefer illegally
(manager and promoter) run his business according to their interests, not his.
if schaefer was working for mayweather promotions, he would have a fiduciary
responibility to make all decisions in the interest of the company, same as when he
was with GB, and haymon as a manager has a fiduciary responsibilty to negotiate with
promoters on behalf of the fighters, which puts haymon in the same boat as he is in now
with GB. as a licensed promoter, why would floyd want haymon around?
it all just sounds like a lot of plotting and scheming with no real value to offer
as an alternative to what GB already has to offer fighters. top fighters don't want
to wait 2 years until maybe something good might come along.

I swear it seems like 90% of the posters here are so jealous of Oscar that they try in put the man down for the dumbest shiit.

All of those backing schaefer are just Floyd dickriderz.

Nothing new here.

sucracristo wrote:

verballistic wrote:I think "Mayweather Promotions" is short on signed fighters & long on hype. One of their "future stars" recently got beaten by a scrub.

there are what are known as economic costs to everything.
in other words, if you have money to invest, how does one investment compare to another?
schaefer has the ability to make a lot of money in real estate and managed investing.
if floyd had any sense, he could just drop all his money in relatively safe annuities
and earn around 15% in perpetuity, and that 15% would be an ungodly sum for one guy,
even if he had child support payments to make.
when floyd isn't fighting anymore, i don't see any guarantee that the guys he has
in his gym are going to be this great investment. it looks to me like he would be
forgoing returns he could earn investing elsewhere with less work. and then why would
he turn his promotional company over to haymon and schaefer, who already apparently
conspired to dick odlh out of golden boy while he was in rehab? if floyd is a promoter
then he would have to be the biggest fool to just let haymon and schaefer illegally
(manager and promoter) run his business according to their interests, not his.
if schaefer was working for mayweather promotions, he would have a fiduciary
responibility to make all decisions in the interest of the company, same as when he
was with GB, and haymon as a manager has a fiduciary responsibilty to negotiate with
promoters on behalf of the fighters, which puts haymon in the same boat as he is in now
with GB. as a licensed promoter, why would floyd want haymon around?
it all just sounds like a lot of plotting and scheming with no real value to offer
as an alternative to what GB already has to offer fighters. top fighters don't want
to wait 2 years until maybe something good might come along.

If Floyd can get Richard & Al to be the minds behind Mayweather Promotions @ some future date I think he'd be silly not to let them be a part of it. Sure there are less risky investments, but I'd bet on Richard & Al being a winning team in boxing all day & Floyd would just be riding their coattails. And if they try to buy him out @ some point as long as he's getting $$$ & isn't in rehab @ the time, fair play. I haven't really heard of Al f#cking over anyone save for Oscar & I've heard him doing good sh!t for many cats.

Idk that that is the plan first off, but if it is idk that Floyd would wanna or should wanna not be in that mix. This is boxing so even if Richard did all the things being said his rep is still better than most of these promoter f#cks who've been sued numerous times. The fact that Richard is being sued (or arbitrated in this case) by a suit wearing guy instead of a boxing trunks wearing guy makes him better in my book out the gate.

ReggieDiggs wrote: If Floyd can get Richard & Al to be the minds behind Mayweather Promotions @ some future date I think he'd be silly not to.

al haymon can't manage boxers and be part of mayweather promotions. it's illegal.
talking about how many boxers he has signed in the context of mayweather promotions
is irrelevant, because he can't be their manager and work for MP. any contracts
disappear the 2nd he joins MP.

bigznyc wrote:Sorry, I dont trust a paranoid cokehead crossdresser..

Fixed. & also, yes, I can see how you'd trust a Swiss investment banker over Oscar. Totally. Swiss investment bankers are well known for their humanitarianism & general trustworthiness.

International by-words, if you like, for "worthy human beings". Definitely don't spend all day plotting to strip-mine the entire world, melt it down & ship it back to Alpen-land where it can join all those solid gold cuckoo clocks made from stolen Jewish gold.

I can see why a man who likes to put things up his nose & occasionally wear womens' knickers would by definition be infinitely less trustworthy than a Swiss investment banker. Totally.