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#1 in every diviion (now)

Posted: 04 Oct 2014, 07:40
by Chepppaaa
wilder
usyk
kovalev
froch
golovkin
lara
pacquiao
provodnikow
crawford
mickey
walthers
rigondeaux
yamanaka
?
gonzales
?
?

Re: #1 in every diviion (now)

Posted: 04 Oct 2014, 09:12
by Crease
Mayweather is the P4P Number One fighter in the world. How can he not be top of his division?

And how exactly is Wilder number one in the Heavyweight division?

Re: #1 in every diviion (now)

Posted: 04 Oct 2014, 09:29
by Yes We Can
Crease wrote:Mayweather is the P4P Number One fighter in the world. How can he not be top of his division?

And how exactly is Wilder number one in the Heavyweight division?
Because results & opposition are a waste of time when ranking a fighter.

I'm just shocked Ali Raymi isn't in his list.

Re: #1 in every diviion (now)

Posted: 04 Oct 2014, 09:42
by Chepppaaa
Crease wrote:Mayweather is the P4P Number One fighter in the world. How can he not be top of his division?

And how exactly is Wilder number one in the Heavyweight division?
because floyd past it. and if maidana can make it close and win so many rounds, than pacquiao with his speed/power would beat floyd in my eyes. i mean with kenny breaaakkkkk bayless floyd wins, but with a 50/50 ref pac wins.

because

a wlad is a wrestler

b wlad has nurmeros dq losses in my eyes, ref got paid well not to give them

c simply because right now wilder knocks out wlad. or wlad hold and crabs all day and if you do that consitantly it is nobody who does it a dq loss

Re: #1 in every diviion (now)

Posted: 04 Oct 2014, 10:26
by ikorolev
After looking at the #1 HW in that list, there is no point to look any further.

Re: #1 in every diviion (now)

Posted: 04 Oct 2014, 11:07
by Badhusker
Cheppy.....lol

Re: #1 in every diviion (now)

Posted: 04 Oct 2014, 15:51
by danconnollyeire
Lol @ Wilder

Re: #1 in every diviion (now)

Posted: 04 Oct 2014, 16:58
by Ricky_
Crease wrote:Mayweather is the P4P Number One fighter in the world.
:lol: it's not 2008.


And :lol: :lol: at Wilder... and pretty much all of that list.

Re: #1 in every diviion (now)

Posted: 04 Oct 2014, 19:09
by Like a Boss
Chepppaaa wrote:wilder
usyk
kovalev
froch
golovkin
lara
pacquiao
provodnikow
crawford
mickey
walthers
rigondeaux
yamanaka
?
gonzales
?
?
Wilder may well prove to be better than many people think. But #1 at the present time he is not.

Re: #1 in every diviion (now)

Posted: 04 Oct 2014, 19:25
by PinoyProdigy95
Narvaez at 115, Nietes at 108, and Rodriguez at 105

Re: #1 in every diviion (now)

Posted: 04 Oct 2014, 19:30
by ttornado
PinoyProdigy95 wrote:Nietes at 108
I'd have to disagree and say Inoue. But I'd expect you to also disagree!

Re: #1 in every diviion (now)

Posted: 04 Oct 2014, 20:00
by brilo33
why is Erislandy Lara,and Ruslan Provodnikov their, come on your on a wind up

Re: #1 in every diviion (now)

Posted: 04 Oct 2014, 20:46
by ikorolev
Why are you taking this ridiculous list seriously ? Here is mine then. Discuss !

joshua
kudryashov
alvarez
f.chudinov
saunders
rabchenko
solomon
cuenca
ndongeni
jacob
gradovich
galahad
payano
?
ruenroeng
?
?

Re: #1 in every diviion (now)

Posted: 05 Oct 2014, 02:24
by vovazilvova
Chepppaaa wrote:
Crease wrote:Mayweather is the P4P Number One fighter in the world. How can he not be top of his division?

And how exactly is Wilder number one in the Heavyweight division?
because floyd past it. and if maidana can make it close and win so many rounds, than pacquiao with his speed/power would beat floyd in my eyes. i mean with kenny breaaakkkkk bayless floyd wins, but with a 50/50 ref pac wins.

because

a wlad is a wrestler

b wlad has nurmeros dq losses in my eyes, ref got paid well not to give them

c simply because right now wilder knocks out wlad. or wlad hold and crabs all day and if you do that consitantly it is nobody who does it a dq loss
You sound like you got something personal with Wlad, did he take your girl?

I guarantee you he will knock Wilder out without holding and grabbing, it will be same fight as with Wach except it will end a lot earlier.

Re: #1 in every diviion (now)

Posted: 06 Oct 2014, 15:27
by Boxing Prospect
ttornado wrote:
PinoyProdigy95 wrote:Nietes at 108
I'd have to disagree and say Inoue. But I'd expect you to also disagree!
All the news from Japan is that Inoue is vacating in the next few weeks, he can't make 108 any more and could end up returning as high as 115.

Mikey Garcia ahead of either of the Japanese champions at 130 seems disputable as well.

Re: #1 in every diviion (now)

Posted: 06 Oct 2014, 15:59
by Tarkus
Chuck Norris is missing from your lists guys.

Re: #1 in every diviion (now)

Posted: 19 Oct 2014, 03:44
by Chepppaaa
didnt i told you guys i see future....

i had walters on my #1 3 weeks ago on that list favouring all along against donaire...

what happened.....

Re: #1 in every diviion (now)

Posted: 19 Oct 2014, 05:00
by jezzamundo
I'll give you two lists, one based on who I think should be considered the champion or the #1 ranked - either the lineal or most accomplished fighter, the other based on who I think is the best boxer in their division. To be fair, I won't do divisions below super bantamweight due to a gap in my knowledge of fighters at those weights.

Proper rankings:
HW - Wlad
CW - Hernandez (shaky because he could easily have lost a couple of decisions)
LHW - Stevenson
SMW - Ward
MW - Cotto
LMW - Mayweather (inactive in the division for over a year, if he's removed it would be Canelo)
WW - Mayweather
LWW - Garcia
LW - Crawford
SFW - M.Garcia
FW - Gonzales
SBW - Rigondeaux

Best:
HW - Wlad
CW - Too hard to call
LHW - Kovalev
SMW - Ward
MW - GGG
LMW - Mayweather/Canelo - same reasons as above
WW - Mayweather
LWW - Hard to call
LW - Crawford
SFW - M.Garcia
FW - Gonzales or Walters (edge to Walters)
SBW - Rigondeaux

Re: #1 in every diviion (now)

Posted: 19 Oct 2014, 05:26
by Chepppaaa
jezzamundo wrote:I'll give you two lists, one based on who I think should be considered the champion or the #1 ranked - either the lineal or most accomplished fighter, the other based on who I think is the best boxer in their division. To be fair, I won't do divisions below super bantamweight due to a gap in my knowledge of fighters at those weights.

Proper rankings:
HW - Wlad
CW - Hernandez (shaky because he could easily have lost a couple of decisions)
LHW - Stevenson
SMW - Ward
MW - Cotto
LMW - Mayweather (inactive in the division for over a year, if he's removed it would be Canelo)
WW - Mayweather
LWW - Garcia
LW - Crawford
SFW - M.Garcia
FW - Gonzales
SBW - Rigondeaux

Best:
HW - Wlad
CW - Too hard to call
LHW - Kovalev
SMW - Ward
MW - GGG
LMW - Mayweather/Canelo - same reasons as above
WW - Mayweather
LWW - Hard to call
LW - Crawford
SFW - M.Garcia
FW - Gonzales or Walters (edge to Walters)
SBW - Rigondeaux

good list...the second one hehe

Re: #1 in every diviion (now)

Posted: 19 Oct 2014, 08:44
by Crease
Ricky_ wrote: :lol: it's not 2008.
No, it's 2014 - and Floyd is still undefeated and since that time he has beaten future HOFers in Cotto & Canelo, so you'd have to put him as the P4P number one. Compare that to Pacquaio who got KO'd against Juanma Marquez.

Re: #1 in every diviion (now)

Posted: 19 Oct 2014, 12:13
by Rodian
Mayweather hasnt beaten Pacquiao at WW....to be the best you have to beat the best.

Re: #1 in every diviion (now)

Posted: 19 Oct 2014, 15:11
by tiny_acres
jezzamundo wrote:I'll give you two lists, one based on who I think should be considered the champion or the #1 ranked - either the lineal or most accomplished fighter, the other based on who I think is the best boxer in their division. To be fair, I won't do divisions below super bantamweight due to a gap in my knowledge of fighters at those weights.

Proper rankings:
HW - Wlad
CW - Hernandez (shaky because he could easily have lost a couple of decisions)
LHW - Stevenson
SMW - Ward
MW - Cotto
LMW - Mayweather (inactive in the division for over a year, if he's removed it would be Canelo)
WW - Mayweather
LWW - Garcia
LW - Crawford
SFW - M.Garcia
FW - Gonzales
SBW - Rigondeaux

Best:
HW - Wlad
CW - Too hard to call
LHW - Kovalev
SMW - Ward
MW - GGG
LMW - Mayweather/Canelo - same reasons as above
WW - Mayweather
LWW - Hard to call
LW - Crawford
SFW - M.Garcia
FW - Gonzales or Walters (edge to Walters)
SBW - Rigondeaux
Great list I would only change Huck as the #1 at cruiserweight. And that is up for debate.

Re: #1 in every diviion (now)

Posted: 20 Oct 2014, 01:27
by KBB
Rodian wrote:Mayweather hasnt beaten Pacquiao at WW....to be the best you have to beat the best.
That works the other way around too, no boxing expert or magazine in the world today will tell you that Manny is better than Floyd but you will see Mayweather at the top of nearly everyone's list.

Re: #1 in every diviion (now)

Posted: 20 Oct 2014, 05:05
by Chepppaaa
exactly.....and by the way....both struggled

pacquiao was leading on points and than got kod

the next 2 fights he easily won against bradley and rios

floyd had an md against canelo and

some say a draw vs maidana

and the second maidana fight was straight up bs. bayless not lettin maidana box

from the inside. floyd not getting 1 deduction for excessive hugging......


both, pac and floyd didnt look spectacular in reascent time. both arent p4p #1 to me.

GGG had looked spectacular, rigo has looked superb. these 2 are the new boxers for the first place.

Re: #1 in every diviion (now)

Posted: 20 Oct 2014, 16:13
by tiny_acres
Chepppaaa wrote:exactly.....and by the way....both struggled

pacquiao was leading on points and than got kod

the next 2 fights he easily won against bradley and rios

floyd had an md against canelo and

some say a draw vs maidana

and the second maidana fight was straight up bs. bayless not lettin maidana box

from the inside. floyd not getting 1 deduction for excessive hugging......


both, pac and floyd didnt look spectacular in reascent time. both arent p4p #1 to me.

GGG had looked spectacular, rigo has looked superb. these 2 are the new boxers for the first place.
I am beginning to think you are not a troll.Just a freakin' idiot.
Have a nice day.