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The light heavyweight division is loaded with talent
Posted: 06 Oct 2014, 19:32
by Freedom2013
David Benavidez
Artur Beterbiev
Egor Mekhontsev
Andrzej Fonfara
Sergey Kovalev
Jean Pascal
Vyacheslav Shabranskyy
Dmitry Bivol
Oleksandr Gvozdyk
Adonis Stevenson
Eleider Alvarez
Juergen Braehmer
Medzhid Bektemirov
Ryno Liebenberg
Andre Ward
Erik Skoglund
Isaac Chilemba
Sullivan Barrera
Yunieski Gonzalez
Re: The light heavyweight division is loaded with talent
Posted: 06 Oct 2014, 21:23
by Badhusker
Freedom2013 wrote:Artur Beterbiev
Egor Mekhontsev
Andrzej Fonfara
Sergey Kovalev
Jean Pascal
Vyacheslav Shabranskyy
Oleksandr Gvozdyk
Adonis Stevenson
Eleider Alvarez
Vasily Lepikhin
Juergen Braehmer
Medzhid Bektemirov
Ryno Liebenberg
Erik Skoglund
Isaac Chilemba
and of course ATG Bernard Hopkins
Then there's a not-so-bad supporting cast:
Andre Dirrell, Nadjib Mohammedi, Igor Mikhalkin, Lucian Bute, Gabriel Campillo, Maxim Vlasov, Doudou Ngumbu
And perhaps some of these will eventually move up:
Carl Froch, Andre Ward, James DeGale, Mikkel Kessler, Julio Cesar Chavez Jr, Anthony Dirrell, Sakio Bika, Fedor Chudinov, Thomas Oosthuizen
For being so loaded with talent, there should be more great fights than we have been seeing. I suppose though you could say that about most weights.
Re: The light heavyweight division is loaded with talent
Posted: 06 Oct 2014, 22:16
by Freedom2013
Badhusker wrote:For being so loaded with talent, there should be more great fights than we have been seeing. suppose though you could say that about most weights.
I'm hoping there will be in the months to come, if the promoters are willing. Hopkins-Kovalev is an intriguing matchup.
Re: The light heavyweight division is loaded with talent
Posted: 06 Oct 2014, 22:31
by giacomino
Good talent, although I doubt Braehmer will fight any of those you listed. Would be cool to see somebody like Kovolev take over and own the division and fight a bunch of these guys, but he'll never be able to own all the belts until Braehmer retires.
Re: The light heavyweight division is loaded with talent
Posted: 06 Oct 2014, 22:44
by ikorolev
giacomino wrote:Good talent, although I doubt Braehmer will fight any of those you listed. Would be cool to see somebody like Kovolev take over and own the division and fight a bunch of these guys, but he'll never be able to own all the belts until Braehmer retires.
Hopkins owns WBA Super title, while Braehmer owns the regular title, so Braehmer's title is more worthless than the other ones.
Re: The light heavyweight division is loaded with talent
Posted: 06 Oct 2014, 23:11
by giacomino
ikorolev wrote:giacomino wrote:Good talent, although I doubt Braehmer will fight any of those you listed. Would be cool to see somebody like Kovolev take over and own the division and fight a bunch of these guys, but he'll never be able to own all the belts until Braehmer retires.
Hopkins owns WBA Super title, while Braehmer owns the regular title, so Braehmer's title is more worthless than the other ones.
Which is good because he wouldn't go within two or three time zones of Kovalev, even on a flyover. Guy got a tummy ache and pulled out of a fight with "Stone Hands" Shumenov, FCS!
Re: The light heavyweight division is loaded with talent
Posted: 07 Oct 2014, 01:14
by TheBeast
Lots of the names don't generate much money... But with Alvarez, Bute, Beterbiev, Stevenson, Pascal... all being from Qc, we'll see lots of big fights there since they can generate top world class gate money. Of all the names, only Beterbiev and ALvarez haven't proven they could do 14K+ crowds there... Shouldn't be long for Beterbiev...
Re: The light heavyweight division is loaded with talent
Posted: 09 Oct 2014, 11:40
by Freedom2013
I wonder if Adonis Stevenson is serious about fighting the winner of Kovalev-Hopkins?
Re: The light heavyweight division is loaded with talent
Posted: 09 Oct 2014, 11:44
by giacomino
Freedom2013 wrote:I wonder if Adonis Stevenson is serious about fighting the winner of Kovalev-Hopkins?
I expect Kovalev to beat Hopkins and Stevenson to suddenly have "other options." Which is too bad because Kovalev-Stevenson would be amazing fun while it lasted.
Re: The light heavyweight division is loaded with talent
Posted: 09 Oct 2014, 16:15
by Chepppaaa
best and most exciting division in boxing
Re: The light heavyweight division is loaded with talent
Posted: 09 Oct 2014, 16:32
by pugilisticprofessor
Beterbiev will be interesting to watch given the fact that he beat Kovalev twice in the amateurs even KOing him once.
I think right now lt heavy has the potential to be one of the most solid classes in boxing IF the right matchups happen.
Re: The light heavyweight division is loaded with talent
Posted: 09 Oct 2014, 16:34
by crusader
pugilisticprofessor wrote:Beterbiev will be interesting to watch given the fact that he beat Kovalev twice in the amateurs even KOing him once.
I think right now lt heavy has the potential to be one of the most solid classes in boxing IF the right matchups happen.
What's your source for the KO? I know he beat Kovalev 25-24 in one of their fights, but I hadn't heard about the manner of victory in the other.
Re: The light heavyweight division is loaded with talent
Posted: 14 Jun 2016, 03:43
by Freedom2013
pugilisticprofessor wrote:Beterbiev will be interesting to watch given the fact that he beat Kovalev twice in the amateurs even KOing him once.
I think right now lt heavy has the potential to be one of the most solid classes in boxing IF the right matchups happen.
He "defeated" Kovalev
once on points in a robbery in Grozny, not by KO.
Beterbiev
did KO Egan, Sillakh and Mchunu among others.
There are many interesting matchups that could be made for this fall in the light heavyweight division.
How about Beterbiev vs. Stevenson, or Barrera vs. Pascal? Alvarez vs. Fonfara, or Gvozdyk vs. Gonzalez?
Re: The light heavyweight division is loaded with talent
Posted: 14 Jun 2016, 23:10
by Freedom2013
Re: The light heavyweight division is loaded with talent
Posted: 22 Jun 2016, 03:16
by Chepppaaa
best the division has ever been
yes
Re: The light heavyweight division is loaded with talent
Posted: 22 Jun 2016, 21:33
by jewboypgh
Great tosee. I liked when bob foster fought but today its pretty deep,
Re: The light heavyweight division is loaded with talent
Posted: 22 Jun 2016, 22:43
by Kalan
Freedom2013 wrote:Artur Beterbiev
Egor Mekhontsev
Andrzej Fonfara
Sergey Kovalev
Jean Pascal
Vyacheslav Shabranskyy
Dmitry Bivol
Oleksandr Gvozdyk
Adonis Stevenson
Eleider Alvarez
Juergen Braehmer
Medzhid Bektemirov
Ryno Liebenberg
Andre Ward
Erik Skoglund
Isaac Chilemba
Sullivan Barrera
Yunieski Gonzalez
If the Light Heavyweight Division is so loaded with talent???? Why is Andre Ward dipping into the 168-pound Division for Alexander Brand???
Re: The light heavyweight division is loaded with talent
Posted: 22 Jun 2016, 22:48
by Kalan
Why don't you have Joe Smith listed... He just spectacularly KO'd Fonfara.
Re: The light heavyweight division is loaded with talent
Posted: 23 Jun 2016, 01:17
by davie
Chepppaaa wrote:best the division has ever been
yes
late 40s/early 50s
Archie Moore, Ezzard Charles, Jimmy Bivins, Joey Maxim, Harold Johnson, Lloyd Marshall, Eddie Booker, Floyd Patterson, Gus Lesnevich, Freddie Mills, Jack Chase, Bert Lytell..............
Sugar Ray Robinson dipped his toe in the division, as did La Motta
The current crop of LHW's don't come anywhere close to being the best ever
Re: The light heavyweight division is loaded with talent
Posted: 23 Jun 2016, 01:47
by Chepppaaa
davie wrote:Chepppaaa wrote:best the division has ever been
yes
late 40s/early 50s
Archie Moore, Ezzard Charles, Jimmy Bivins, Joey Maxim, Harold Johnson, Lloyd Marshall, Eddie Booker, Floyd Patterson, Gus Lesnevich, Freddie Mills, Jack Chase, Bert Lytell..............
Sugar Ray Robinson dipped his toe in the division, as did La Motta
The current crop of LHW's don't come anywhere close to being the best ever
they beat those of the 40 s
Re: The light heavyweight division is loaded with talent
Posted: 23 Jun 2016, 19:44
by davie
Chepppaaa wrote:davie wrote:Chepppaaa wrote:best the division has ever been
yes
late 40s/early 50s
Archie Moore, Ezzard Charles, Jimmy Bivins, Joey Maxim, Harold Johnson, Lloyd Marshall, Eddie Booker, Floyd Patterson, Gus Lesnevich, Freddie Mills, Jack Chase, Bert Lytell..............
Sugar Ray Robinson dipped his toe in the division, as did La Motta
The current crop of LHW's don't come anywhere close to being the best ever
they beat those of the 40 s
The list in the OP has some genuine quality fighters, some good heavy handed prospects who have as yet proven nothing and some guys who have been beaten by Tony fornicating Bellew and you are telling me that this current crop beats not only the strongest era of LHW history, but arguably one of the strongest groups to exist in any weight division at any one time.
The list of fighter I listed actually came from a discussion on a thread I started on the boxing history forum, asking if this group rivaled any group at one weight class. The general viw was, if it was not the best it wasn't a kick in the bollocks away from it.
But of course Ryno Leibenberg, Andrzej Fonfara and Isaac Chilemba should be mentioned in the same breath....
Deary me!
Re: The light heavyweight division is loaded with talent
Posted: 23 Jun 2016, 21:02
by Freedom2013
Kalan wrote:If the Light Heavyweight Division is so loaded with talent???? Why is Andre Ward dipping into the 168-pound Division for Alexander Brand???
he obviously wants an easy win
Re: The light heavyweight division is loaded with talent
Posted: 23 Jun 2016, 21:04
by gilgamesh
Most fighters aren't going to fight a particularly dangerous opponent when they have a major PPV fight on the horizon.
Re: The light heavyweight division is loaded with talent
Posted: 23 Jun 2016, 21:45
by Freedom2013
What do you all think of David Benavidez?
I'm very impressed with him.