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Would Peter Quillin stand any sort of a chance against GGG?

Posted: 10 Oct 2014, 12:25
by drunkenpiper36
Just curious as to people's thoughts.

Re: Would Peter Quillin stand any sort of a chance against GGG?

Posted: 10 Oct 2014, 12:37
by Ricky_
I thought that Adama gave Golovkin a little trouble in spots, so yeah i think Quillin could do better than any of Golovkins previous title challengers, but it's difficult to see anything other than a Golovkin ko W.

Re: Would Peter Quillin stand any sort of a chance against GGG?

Posted: 10 Oct 2014, 12:48
by chucktaylor
Any world class fighter has a chance, but I wouldn't rate his chance very highly. He has good power, which has certainly been key to many upsets before.
GGG has been demolishing everyone, but any offensive juggernaut takes some shots in the process. He's shown a good beard thus far. I doubt he'd take a clean hook from Quillin without wobbling at least a bit.

Re: Would Peter Quillin stand any sort of a chance against GGG?

Posted: 10 Oct 2014, 13:06
by Chepppaaa
nobody does.

you either be super slick like rigo

or super strong like kovalev

to pose problems for ggg, quillon is good, but in no way exceptional. no chance.

Re: Would Peter Quillin stand any sort of a chance against GGG?

Posted: 10 Oct 2014, 13:14
by ikorolev
I think Quillin's only chance is Golovkin suffering a cut (what happened to Rosado) or another injury.

Re: Would Peter Quillin stand any sort of a chance against GGG?

Posted: 10 Oct 2014, 13:23
by Baby Face Finster
Quillin and his management are pussies so don't hold your breath for that match up.

Re: Would Peter Quillin stand any sort of a chance against GGG?

Posted: 10 Oct 2014, 13:25
by The Great John L
Quillin is a good fighter with a decent punch, so he would have a chance. A small chance. Maybe. On a very good day and a bad GGG day.

Re: Would Peter Quillin stand any sort of a chance against GGG?

Posted: 10 Oct 2014, 13:36
by diddy
No.

Ward.

Re: Would Peter Quillin stand any sort of a chance against GGG?

Posted: 10 Oct 2014, 13:59
by Bodyshot3
Fairly sure that PQ has a better chance than most.....in other words, he's experienced enough not to get mashed early and has the right skills to actually set GGG a few problems as well.

But since he quit his WBO title he'll need to put himself back in challenger mode and have to take the belts away from GGG and that means he's got to be progressive and unseat a champion. I don't like that scenario for Peter. Might have been very different if it had been a champ v champ fight.

Re: Would Peter Quillin stand any sort of a chance against GGG?

Posted: 10 Oct 2014, 14:01
by lefty
I actually quite rate Quillin although I know the majority it would seem, seem to think he's a load of dog shite.

Re: Would Peter Quillin stand any sort of a chance against GGG?

Posted: 10 Oct 2014, 14:10
by Impractical Poster
Quillin has the best chance. He did a number on N'Dam. It is the fight that needs to be made at this weight. That being said, my money is on G.

Re: Would Peter Quillin stand any sort of a chance against GGG?

Posted: 10 Oct 2014, 14:14
by Freedom2013
Of course he would have a chance, Quillen is a hard puncher and a decent boxer.

But that being said, GGG is more likely to win.

Re: Would Peter Quillin stand any sort of a chance against GGG?

Posted: 10 Oct 2014, 14:18
by lefty
Freedom2013 wrote:Of course he would have a chance, Quillen is a hard puncher and a decent boxer.

But that being said, GGG is more likely to win.
Yeah wouldnt argue with that. GGG seems to have a rock solid chin, sort of Froch-esque (could be better based on the fact he's never been down as an amateur or pro and he had 400 odd amateur fights and 30 odd pro fights) and he hits like a mule and he's very good at cutting off the ring. To beat him, you have to be either super slick and awkward like a Ward or you have to have a good chin and be able to absorb some punishment because you're not gonna blast him out of there so if you do manage the win it's gonna be very tough no matter what.

Re: Would Peter Quillin stand any sort of a chance against GGG?

Posted: 10 Oct 2014, 14:28
by ReggieDiggs
Anyone who's gonna fight anyone else has a chance. Silly question.

Re: Would Peter Quillin stand any sort of a chance against GGG?

Posted: 10 Oct 2014, 15:06
by ikorolev
Freedom2013 wrote:Of course he would have a chance, Quillen is a hard puncher and a decent boxer.

But that being said, GGG is more likely to win.
GGG is going to fight a hard puncher and a decent boxer next week. I think Rubio is no worse than Quillin and was tested for toughness by Pavlik, Chavez and Lemieux, while Quillin hasn't had decent heavy hitting opponents. Rosado is punching pretty hard, and Quillin didn't look good in that fight.

Re: Would Peter Quillin stand any sort of a chance against GGG?

Posted: 10 Oct 2014, 15:24
by crusader
Impractical Poster wrote:Quillin has the best chance. He did a number on N'Dam. It is the fight that needs to be made at this weight. That being said, my money is on G.
He did a number with the knockdowns, but I thought he still lost 7 rounds. He's got heavy hands and can shine in spots, but he also goes through many lackluster moments and I think that will be an especially bad problem against someone who seems to have a good chin and likely won't allow him to make up lost ground with his power. Quillin also has a tendency to let opponents push him back and punch while he's against the ropes, which he can afford at a certain level, but he probably won't be able to get away with that against GGG because the latter tends to unload most heavily when an opponent is in that position and I think he has more firepower than Quillin.

I believe Quillin has a solid chance of being competitive, but I think he'd be less able to deal with GGG's attributes than GGG would be to deal with his. I'm not sure of the exact chances I'd give, but they'd be comfortably in GGG's favor.

Re: Would Peter Quillin stand any sort of a chance against GGG?

Posted: 10 Oct 2014, 16:11
by reggaereggae
No

Re: Would Peter Quillin stand any sort of a chance against GGG?

Posted: 10 Oct 2014, 18:20
by ikorolev
ReggieDiggs wrote:Anyone who's gonna fight anyone else has a chance. Silly question.
There is no need to take "any" in the title question literally. The poster is obviously asking if there is a chance worse a discussion. Salka also had a chance against Danny, but nobody would seriously say that he could win.

Re: Would Peter Quillin stand any sort of a chance against GGG?

Posted: 10 Oct 2014, 18:25
by drunkenpiper36
ikorolev wrote:
ReggieDiggs wrote:Anyone who's gonna fight anyone else has a chance. Silly question.
There is no need to take "any" in the title question literally. The poster is obviously asking if there is a chance worse a discussion. Salka also had a chance against Danny, but nobody would seriously say that he could win.
Thank you. I suppose I should have entitled the thread using the words any "reasonable" chance but didn't figure on someone ridiculing a simple question.

Re: Would Peter Quillin stand any sort of a chance against GGG?

Posted: 10 Oct 2014, 18:31
by ikorolev
fergusg wrote:I don’t care what anybody says, Peter Quillin’s recent career moves has been wholly orchestrated by Al Haymon. Fear plays no part whatsoever in the reasons why ‘Kid Chocolate’ has vacated titles or refused to engage in certain fights.

Personally-speaking, whilst I honestly believe Gennady Golovkin is a much better fighter than Quillin, a fight against Peter would represent a humongous step up in calibre of opposition.

If GGG managed to dominate Peter Quillin with absolute ease and dispose of him within six rounds, then this would more than justify all the media frenzy and hype, but if he struggles, then perhaps he’s not quite as good as we all thought he was.

I reckon Golovkin may be taken the distance if this fight were to happen, but may score at least one knockdown en route to gaining a wide decision victory.
How would a win over Quillin be different that beating Geale or Rubio. Quillin's two best opponents were N'Dam and Rosado. The first one selected a wrong plan but still won half of the rounds, and the second one was on his way of winning a fight (at least on fans' scorecards). Peter also looked absolutely unimpressive in his last fight. So, why is a win over him different ?

I also disagree about "fear" or better saying confidence. If Haymon and Quillin were confident that Peter could beat Korobov, there would be no reason to drop the belt. Why didn't Quillin drop the belt instead of fighting Konechny ? Is Konechny a bigger name than Korobov ? Absolutely not. If Korobov got himself together, he would beat Quillin EASILLY. Even if he came to fight in his "normal" shape, it would be 50/50 or 40/60 fight in my opinion.

Re: Would Peter Quillin stand any sort of a chance against GGG?

Posted: 10 Oct 2014, 18:42
by ikorolev
fergusg wrote:Whilst many people may choose to worship GGG and compare his powers to some sort of invulnerable omnipotent god-like being, it’s important to note that Golovkin has never shared the ring with an opponent possessing anywhere near the overall ability that Quillin has.
What is your estimate of Quillin's ability based on if he was unimpressive in most of his fights against decent opposition and barely fought a top 10 fighter ?

Re: Would Peter Quillin stand any sort of a chance against GGG?

Posted: 11 Oct 2014, 11:49
by Boxing Prospect
Slim and none, and I heard Slim was ducking Golovkin..

Re: Would Peter Quillin stand any sort of a chance against GGG?

Posted: 11 Oct 2014, 16:22
by Butterbean
fergusg wrote:Whilst many people may choose to worship GGG and compare his powers to some sort of invulnerable omnipotent god-like being, it’s important to note that Golovkin has never shared the ring with an opponent possessing anywhere near the overall ability that Quillin has.
LMAO...
Idiot or troll, maybe even both

Re: Would Peter Quillin stand any sort of a chance against GGG?

Posted: 11 Oct 2014, 17:03
by Lackeos
Based on information I've gathered in past discussions, Golovkin's defeat of Curtis Stevens is absolute proof that he is unbeatable, whereas Quillin has defeated nothing but scrubs like N'Dam. I believed that perhaps N'Dam was comfortably superior to Stevens, but some of Golovkin's fans disagreed with me, and therefore I was wrong. Also, Golovkin has defeated Godlike contenders, such as Gabriel Rosado, whereas Quillin has only defeated corpses, such as Gabriel Rosado.

Re: Would Peter Quillin stand any sort of a chance against GGG?

Posted: 11 Oct 2014, 17:09
by ikorolev
Lackeos wrote:Based on information I've gathered in past discussions, Golovkin's defeat of Curtis Stevens is absolute proof that he is unbeatable, whereas Quillin has defeated nothing but scrubs like N'Dam. I believed that perhaps N'Dam was comfortably superior to Stevens, but some of Golovkin's fans disagreed with me, and therefore I was wrong.
The fact that N'Dam is better than Stevens doesn't prove anything. N'Dam won 6 rounds against Quillin and could have defeated him if he selected a plan similar to one in the Stevens fight. Quillin also was close to losing to Rosado and looked absolutely unimpressive against Konechny. Golovkin, on the contrary, demolishes his opposition demonstrating great skills, chin, stamina and power. Now put 2 and 2 together.

Also, like I showed in another thread, nobody ever said that Stevens was better than N'Dam. In a tri-poll (Soliman vs N'Dam vs Stevens), Soliman got 5 votes, N'Dam got 7, and Stevens got ZERO.