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Dillian Whyte has a date and a venue for his comeback fight. Does anyone know the details please?

21st November, Camden Town Centre, dunno about opponent.

Thanks. Who is he signed to, etc?

Be interesting to see how he goes......felt he got a rough deal with that ban and from a personal perspective I am far more interested in seeing him (after a couple of tune-ups) or Ian Lewison getting in with Joshua rather than some other names being bandied around like Johnson and Sprott. Someone with a bit of fire in their belly, also trying to get to the top and with a full-on, physical presence but would be a better test for Joshua.

Bodyshot3 wrote:Be interesting to see how he goes......felt he got a rough deal with that ban and from a personal perspective I am far more interested in seeing him (after a couple of tune-ups) or Ian Lewison getting in with Joshua rather than some other names being bandied around like Johnson and Sprott. Someone with a bit of fire in their belly, also trying to get to the top and with a full-on, physical presence but would be a better test for Joshua.

Definitely got a rough deal he took a pre-work out supplement which has since been modified by the company that produces it, the length of the ban was ridiculous, hopefully he'll be back in the mix soon so the UK can have another good heavyweight prospect amongst the ranks.

Sklar wrote:Thanks. Who is he signed to, etc?

If he's fighting at the Camden Centre I would assume Mickey Helliet, he puts a lot of shows on there.

Yeah very harsh ban. Especially when Enzo did the same thing and got 1 year. Add to the fact that Enzo was 10 years older, former world champion.......if anyone should have know better out of the two it was him. Hope he can get back on track.

True he was treated very harshly but nothing in his pro career to date marks him out as above domestic level. Good luck to the guy at least he is committed and fit which a lot of heavyweight "prospects" are not.

expe wrote:

Sklar wrote:Thanks. Who is he signed to, etc?

If he's fighting at the Camden Centre I would assume Mickey Helliet, he puts a lot of shows on there.

That makes sense. Thanks.

I agree with others about the length of the ban. You are responsible for what you put in your body, so a punishment was in order but, in my view, the duration was excessive given the circumstances.

rm1 wrote:True he was treated very harshly but nothing in his pro career to date marks him out as above domestic level. Good luck to the guy at least he is committed and fit which a lot of heavyweight "prospects" are not.

True in terms of opponents beaten, but there's been a lot of positive words about Whyte from the Klitschko training camps he's been involved in. That combined with his rivalry with Joshua has gotten everyone interested.

Terry Dooley wrote:I'm not saying I agree with the length, but the UKAD report's available online and they stated that the sanction was due to the fact that he ingested the drink on the day of the fight to improve his performance. It was recommended by someone he knows, but the UKAD stresses personal responsibility, so they hit him with the maximum and outlined their thinking.

It was naivety on his part, lots of fighters take pre-workout drinks prior to training and fighting, despite cases like Whyte's, I'm confident the overwhelming majority still take the manufacturer's assertions that the products are legal in competition at face value and do no research of their own. The percentages worked against him. Like I said before, though, I agree with him being punished.

Terry Dooley wrote:I'm not saying I agree with the length, but the UKAD report's available online and they stated that the sanction was due to the fact that he ingested the drink on the day of the fight to improve his performance. It was recommended by someone he knows, but the UKAD stresses personal responsibility, so they hit him with the maximum and outlined their thinking.

The UKAD report also says they fully accept he took It not knowing it contained any banned substance.

The substance DMAA which has 16 other names and was listed as geranium and is ok to use outside competition as long as its not in your system on fight night. Enzo Macrinelli got 6 months and Tony Dodson 5 months for testing positive for exactly the same ingredient. Dillan Whyte was incredibly unlucky to receive 2 years.

Terry Dooley wrote:

london wrote:

Terry Dooley wrote:I'm not saying I agree with the length, but the UKAD report's available online and they stated that the sanction was due to the fact that he ingested the drink on the day of the fight to improve his performance. It was recommended by someone he knows, but the UKAD stresses personal responsibility, so they hit him with the maximum and outlined their thinking.

The UKAD report also says they fully accept he took It not knowing it contained any banned substance.

The substance DMAA which has 16 other names and was listed as geranium and is ok to use outside competition as long as its not in your system on fight night. Enzo Macrinelli got 6 months and Tony Dodson 5 months for testing positive for exactly the same ingredient. Dillan Whyte was incredibly unlucky to receive 2 years.

I'm not saying I agree with the length, it was extremely tough on Whyte, but the UKAD applied their criteria to it and laid out their reasoning. No one can doubt Whyte's commitment, though, given that he's stayed hard on it in the gym throughout his ban. He'll be a great addition to the U.K. HWs.

Agreed but there is no consistency with the UKAD decisions otherwise Macrinelli,Dodson and Ryan Barrett should all of had 2 year bans as they all tested positive on fight night for the same ingredient.

If the other boxers were given such a wide range of bans surely Whyte has a legal case for action against UKAD, 6 months as opposed to 2 years seems bizarre, and they should be able to say why each boxer got different sentences for the same offence?

Broomhall wrote:If the other boxers were given such a wide range of bans surely Whyte has a legal case for action against UKAD, 6 months as opposed to 2 years seems bizarre, and they should be able to say why each boxer got different sentences for the same offence?

I don't know about some of the others, but Enzo only got 6 months because the amount in his body was small, he didn't take much of the stuff and he stopped taking it a couple of days before the fight as it was making him ill, so it was judged that it wasn't performance enhancing, along with him making the mistake of not properly checking whether it was allowed.

expe wrote:

Broomhall wrote:If the other boxers were given such a wide range of bans surely Whyte has a legal case for action against UKAD, 6 months as opposed to 2 years seems bizarre, and they should be able to say why each boxer got different sentences for the same offence?

I don't know about some of the others, but Enzo only got 6 months because the amount in his body was small, he didn't take much of the stuff and he stopped taking it a couple of days before the fight as it was making him ill, so it was judged that it wasn't performance enhancing, along with him making the mistake of not properly checking whether it was allowed.

No Enzo was very lucky as he was one of the first boxers banned for DMAA etc he took a product called HEMO RAGE and said he bought it to lose weight. If it was making him ill surely he would of checked the ingredients? He also said he bought it mail order but never checked what it contained.

Regardless of when he stopped taking it he tested positive and was banned for 6 months.

DMAA is not banned for training it just shouldn't be in your system on fight night.

I think Whyte should of received no more than 6 months.

Terry Dooley wrote:

london wrote:

Agreed but there is no consistency with the UKAD decisions otherwise Macrinelli,Dodson and Ryan Barrett should all of had 2 year bans as they all tested positive on fight night for the same ingredient.

They are consistent, Dodson and the others stated that they'd taken it in training for a bout, not on the day of it.

No they are not consistent Dodson 5 Months ,Macrinelli 6 months , Ryan Llewelyn 12 months, Ryan Barrett 15 months, Dillian Whyte 24 months.

Good article on Whytes case.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/boxing/22047144

He won.2nd round stoppage.

london wrote:

expe wrote:

Broomhall wrote:If the other boxers were given such a wide range of bans surely Whyte has a legal case for action against UKAD, 6 months as opposed to 2 years seems bizarre, and they should be able to say why each boxer got different sentences for the same offence?

I don't know about some of the others, but Enzo only got 6 months because the amount in his body was small, he didn't take much of the stuff and he stopped taking it a couple of days before the fight as it was making him ill, so it was judged that it wasn't performance enhancing, along with him making the mistake of not properly checking whether it was allowed.

No Enzo was very lucky as he was one of the first boxers banned for DMAA etc he took a product called HEMO RAGE and said he bought it to lose weight. If it was making him ill surely he would of checked the ingredients? He also said he bought it mail order but never checked what it contained.

Regardless of when he stopped taking it he tested positive and was banned for 6 months.

DMAA is not banned for training it just shouldn't be in your system on fight night.

I think Whyte should of received no more than 6 months.

I believe it was dexaprine enzo took.

Video up soon....

ERIC GUY wrote:Video up soon....

The video is online:
http://youtu.be/TWNjxhX1vnc

As I said on youtube:
Strange contest to be honest. If you look at the opponent's age and record, he looked decent on paper. In the first round, he threw some decent punches but then completely collapsed in the second round. The towel incident was farcical to be honest. I can understand Dillian's frustration, he wanted more rounds. He needs a more experienced journeyman next time round.

good to see Dillian back, lets hope he can keep busy and mop up some domestic heavies Richard towers wants doing for a start.

Should be in with joshua early next year.

Old Jack J wrote:Should be in with joshua early next year.

Too early for Whyte. He'll need at least 3 more fights against journeymen to even consider Joshua.

UrbanFox wrote:

Old Jack J wrote:Should be in with joshua early next year.

Too early for Whyte. He'll need at least 3 more fights against journeymen to even consider Joshua.

Agree. 1 before Christmas, 1 in January, 1 in February and then AJ in march/april next year.