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GGG wants Miguel Cotto

Posted: 18 Oct 2014, 23:24
by Evander
What do you think ?

Re: GGG wants Miguel Cotto

Posted: 18 Oct 2014, 23:25
by Ian1973
It'll end like Golovkin's fights always do. I swear he could punch a house to the ground.

Re: GGG wants Miguel Cotto

Posted: 18 Oct 2014, 23:26
by tiny_acres
Cotto would have more balls then brains to take that fight.If I were Cotto I would go after Canelo
and leave GGG alone.Way more money in a Canelo fight and way less risk.

Re: GGG wants Miguel Cotto

Posted: 18 Oct 2014, 23:29
by crusader
I hope they fight, or at least the winner of Cotto-Alvarez if that happens first. It irks me when people worship lineage yet the lineal champs don't fight people like GGG.

Re: GGG wants Miguel Cotto

Posted: 18 Oct 2014, 23:34
by Jpreisser
crusader wrote:I hope they fight, or at least the winner of Cotto-Alvarez if that happens first. It irks me when people worship lineage yet the lineal champs don't fight people like GGG.
Alvarez and Cotto will surely get together early next year. Whoever wins that fight has to give Golovkin a chance.

Re: GGG wants Miguel Cotto

Posted: 18 Oct 2014, 23:39
by tiny_acres
Cotto has zero chance against GGG.Nearly everyone said when Cotto beat Martinez that
he was shot and a joke.Now he has to go face a destroyer like GGG?
I would rather see GGG in there with Froch or Ward.Someone with a chance.
Cotto should take the big money against Canelo and retire.

Re: GGG wants Miguel Cotto

Posted: 18 Oct 2014, 23:41
by ikorolev
No way Roach will let Cotto get beaten by GGG.

Re: GGG wants Miguel Cotto

Posted: 18 Oct 2014, 23:43
by lefty
I'm not really interested in Cotto-Golovkin. Cotto is just too small for GGG and he'd just get beaten down and stopped within 6. Probably even earlier in truth. If i was Cotto id fight alvarez. That's a more intriguing matchup to me anyway where the winner isnt already almost completely determined.

Re: GGG wants Miguel Cotto

Posted: 18 Oct 2014, 23:44
by lookingaround87
Cotto needs to be paid 50 million to get in the ring with him. it ain't happening. simple as that.

Re: GGG wants Miguel Cotto

Posted: 19 Oct 2014, 00:25
by birdman77
Never discount a Roach trained fighter. I say Cotto fares better than Canelo. He has gained a lot of muscle and frankly GGG may be susceptible to offense first guy with good instincts. That being said, Cotto has too much collateral damage and cuts very easily. It'd end up almost as messy as Pacman vs Cotto

Re: GGG wants Miguel Cotto

Posted: 19 Oct 2014, 02:52
by jezzamundo
If it ever happens, it happens at MSG, in a large ring, at 155lb and Cotto gets to choose the gloves.

Re: GGG wants Miguel Cotto

Posted: 19 Oct 2014, 03:12
by BAD INTENTIONS
jezzamundo wrote:If it ever happens, it happens at MSG, in a large ring, at 155lb and Cotto gets to choose the gloves.
... and the trunks, the shoes, socks, entrance, hand wraps, and one-sided drug testing.

... and it still wouldn't stop Cotto from being brutalized like the Margarito fight.

Re: GGG wants Miguel Cotto

Posted: 19 Oct 2014, 03:17
by MachoTime
Cotto has no chance. Doubt that will see GGG in with Canelo either. Most likely in the future will be seeing GGG destroying the Rubio's of the Boxing World. I consider GGG the modern day Hagler. Probably even better than Hagler.

Re: GGG wants Miguel Cotto

Posted: 19 Oct 2014, 07:24
by Badhusker
jezzamundo wrote:If it ever happens, it happens at MSG, in a large ring, at 155lb and Cotto gets to choose the gloves.

If it happens, I sincerely hope it isn't at some BS catch-weight. Either fight at the regular weight limit or give up the belt. Roach already saying it would have to be close to 154 shows he is afraid, and needs to weaken GGG to even the playing field. Same crap he did with several of Pac's fights.

Re: GGG wants Miguel Cotto

Posted: 19 Oct 2014, 09:11
by Ricky_
Cotto won't fight Golovkin. He was badly brutalized against Margarito and Pacquiao but at least against Golovkin it be over pretty quick.

If Cotto wants a retirement fund then he fights Canelo. Legacy wise, what's the point in fighting GGG, he already captured the MW title beating Martinez.

Re: GGG wants Miguel Cotto

Posted: 19 Oct 2014, 09:49
by Rodian
Cotto is gonna duck this one.

Cotto is a warrior but he's also pretty smart. If a little guy like Pacquiao can beat him to a pulp, he knows damn well what a Kazakh Mike Tyson will do to him.

Cotto, dear lord, dont take another beating. Think of your wife and kids. Look what happened to Donaire.

Re: GGG wants Miguel Cotto

Posted: 19 Oct 2014, 09:56
by JC
lefty wrote:I'm not really interested in Cotto-Golovkin. Cotto is just too small for GGG and he'd just get beaten down and stopped within 6. Probably even earlier in truth. If i was Cotto id fight alvarez. That's a more intriguing matchup to me anyway where the winner isnt already almost completely determined.
If that's the case Cotto and Alvarez should happen at 154lbs. Otherwise Golovkin has earnt the right to prove he's top dog in the division. It's not his fault if the man who beat the man happens to be smaller than him.

Re: GGG wants Miguel Cotto

Posted: 19 Oct 2014, 09:56
by ikorolev
Rodian wrote:Cotto is gonna duck this one.

Cotto is a warrior but he's also pretty smart. If a little guy like Pacquiao can beat him to a pulp, he knows damn well what a Kazakh Mike Tyson will do to him.

Cotto, dear lord, dont take another beating. Think of your wife and kids. Look what happened to Donaire.
It is absolutely clear that Cotto will fight Canelo in the spring. If he wins, he will still not fight GGG, so I hope that Canelo wins, as the young guy still has big balls and will probably take the GGG fight.

Re: GGG wants Miguel Cotto

Posted: 19 Oct 2014, 10:28
by jezzamundo
fergusg wrote:Didn't Gennady Golovkin enter the ring weighing 173lb against Rubio, whilst Cotto weighed only 155lbs when he whooped Martinez?

Therefore, it's not unreasonable for Freddie Roach and the rest of team Cotto to demand a catch-weight limit if they chose to fight Golovkin (if they are very fortunate enough to secure a victory over Canelo next May).

It's still surprises me that people are even mentioning Mayweather's name as a potential GGG opponent, when he's contracted to rival TV network Showtime and he typically enters the ring weighing only 148lbs.
Golovkin-Mayweather at 154lb is a fair matchup. You could even argue that it advantages Floyd as he's fought in that division before while GGG has not. GGG would undoubtedly be the bigger, stronger fighter in the ring, but considering he was 173lb on fight night against Rubio, draining to 154lb may affect his performance.

Cotto weighed in at 155lb against Martinez at the weigh in but he would have been substantially heavier on fight night (which makes me wonder why he would drain so far if it weren't necessary to make weight). He's been as much as 167lb on fight night while campaigning at light middleweight. Cotto holds a belt at middleweight, so they should fight at 160lb, but we all know there's no way that's going to happen.

Re: GGG wants Miguel Cotto

Posted: 19 Oct 2014, 11:15
by tiny_acres
jezzamundo wrote:
fergusg wrote:Didn't Gennady Golovkin enter the ring weighing 173lb against Rubio, whilst Cotto weighed only 155lbs when he whooped Martinez?

Therefore, it's not unreasonable for Freddie Roach and the rest of team Cotto to demand a catch-weight limit if they chose to fight Golovkin (if they are very fortunate enough to secure a victory over Canelo next May).

It's still surprises me that people are even mentioning Mayweather's name as a potential GGG opponent, when he's contracted to rival TV network Showtime and he typically enters the ring weighing only 148lbs.
Golovkin-Mayweather at 154lb is a fair matchup. You could even argue that it advantages Floyd as he's fought in that division before while GGG has not. GGG would undoubtedly be the bigger, stronger fighter in the ring, but considering he was 173lb on fight night against Rubio, draining to 154lb may affect his performance.

Cotto weighed in at 155lb against Martinez at the weigh in but he would have been substantially heavier on fight night (which makes me wonder why he would drain so far if it weren't necessary to make weight). He's been as much as 167lb on fight night while campaigning at light middleweight. Cotto holds a belt at middleweight, so they should fight at 160lb, but we all know there's no way that's going to happen.
Floyd would be stupid to take this fight for $100 million and using an 80 foot ring.GGG is too big,too skilled and too damned strong.FMJ is too small and too old to even think about it.I do not see it happening for any amount of money.

Re: GGG wants Miguel Cotto

Posted: 19 Oct 2014, 11:38
by Lackeos
Everybody should want Cotto right now. He's one of the ripest risk-reward propositions in the game right now.

Re: GGG wants Miguel Cotto

Posted: 19 Oct 2014, 12:19
by jamesmcdonnell
Cotto just isn't big enough. If I were Roach I would insist that it was at a catchweight. Cotto wasn't even big at Junior Middle, and started at 140 - if GGG wants the scalp bad enough, he will have to expect to have to make concessions. It's a gamble, but beating Cotto would make him something a lot closer to a household name.

I've no interest in seeing Cotto getting smashed by GGG - he's taken enough lumps in his career, and I applaud him from managing to bounce back from the terrible mauling he took from cheating scumbag Margarito - I don't think he's ever quite been the same, but he's gone on to have a very impressive late career nonetheless.

Re: GGG wants Miguel Cotto

Posted: 19 Oct 2014, 12:23
by lefty
tiny_acres wrote:
jezzamundo wrote:
fergusg wrote:Didn't Gennady Golovkin enter the ring weighing 173lb against Rubio, whilst Cotto weighed only 155lbs when he whooped Martinez?

Therefore, it's not unreasonable for Freddie Roach and the rest of team Cotto to demand a catch-weight limit if they chose to fight Golovkin (if they are very fortunate enough to secure a victory over Canelo next May).

It's still surprises me that people are even mentioning Mayweather's name as a potential GGG opponent, when he's contracted to rival TV network Showtime and he typically enters the ring weighing only 148lbs.
Golovkin-Mayweather at 154lb is a fair matchup. You could even argue that it advantages Floyd as he's fought in that division before while GGG has not. GGG would undoubtedly be the bigger, stronger fighter in the ring, but considering he was 173lb on fight night against Rubio, draining to 154lb may affect his performance.

Cotto weighed in at 155lb against Martinez at the weigh in but he would have been substantially heavier on fight night (which makes me wonder why he would drain so far if it weren't necessary to make weight). He's been as much as 167lb on fight night while campaigning at light middleweight. Cotto holds a belt at middleweight, so they should fight at 160lb, but we all know there's no way that's going to happen.
Floyd would be stupid to take this fight for $100 million and using an 80 foot ring.GGG is too big,too skilled and too damned strong.FMJ is too small and too old to even think about it.I do not see it happening for any amount of money.
I wouldnt say too skilled for Floyd but the other things I wouldnt disagree with.

Re: GGG wants Miguel Cotto

Posted: 19 Oct 2014, 13:06
by jamesmcdonnell
I can see Floyd going for the fight - as good as GGG is, Floyd really does seem to believe he's on a different level to everyone else.

I think the Pacman not happening was a case of two huge ego's getting in the way of one another, and the fact that Arum doesn't want it to happen.

I think GGG would know the fight is his biggest chance at stardom, and that if he does lose to Floyd, then so what, he's losing to an ATG and future hall of famer. That being the case, I think he would bend over backwards to make the fight happen, knowing he has a better chance of winning, than anyone Floyd has faced since his early career.

I wouldn't discount Floyd taking the fight, nor winning it - Floyd is an absolute master at nullifying his opponent's advantages, he would undoubtedly win ugly if he did win, but I for one wouldn't be that surprised.

Golovkin for all his impressive series of knockouts, has not faced anyone even remotely as talented and skilled as Floyd, and whilst he would have all the physical advantages of size, strength and youth, he'd be in deep technically, as skilled as GGG is, there's nobody else out there, aside from perhaps Rigondeux who is as skilful.

If Floyd won, especially if it was at 160, it would be a legacy defining fight, and Floyd definitely wants to be remembered as one of the greatest ever.

I see this one as a bit like Leonard coming out of retirement to beat the bigger, stronger Hagler - Floyd will possibly be able to see enough there that he can exploit, to take on the young lion. If he does, and there's enough money on offer, I can honestly see this fight happening.

I'm sure you all think I'm mad, but there it is.

Re: GGG wants Miguel Cotto

Posted: 19 Oct 2014, 13:27
by palooka
Golovkin is a very impressive and destructive boxer, we are lucky to watch him - he may turn out to be a very rare boxer.