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Luis Ortiz has tested positive for PEDs
Posted: 22 Oct 2014, 14:08
by Freedom2013
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Luis Ortiz, who won the WBA Heavyweight championship against our fighter Lateef Kayode, tested positive 4 steroids today
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Luis "King Kong" Ortiz dio positivo por uso de esteroides según informo la comisión de Nevada, ha sido suspendido.
Re: Luis Ortiz has tested positive for PEDs
Posted: 22 Oct 2014, 14:16
by pugilisticprofessor
Well, so much for the first Cuban Heavyweight Champion, and welcome back Kayode's 0.
Re: Luis Ortiz has tested positive for PEDs
Posted: 22 Oct 2014, 14:41
by Freedom2013
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Luis Ortiz, who won an interim heavyweight title 9/11, tested positive for steroids. Nevada commission has suspended him pending a hearing.
Re: Luis Ortiz has tested positive for PEDs
Posted: 22 Oct 2014, 14:45
by diddy
There isn't one cuban not on PEDs. Not one.
Re: Luis Ortiz has tested positive for PEDs
Posted: 22 Oct 2014, 14:58
by lefty
Oh great. I was looking forward to seeing Ortiz in the mix aswell as he seemed to have the size and boxing ability to be a tough for any of the higher echelon heavyweights. That's gone out of the window now anyway lol
Re: Luis Ortiz has tested positive for PEDs
Posted: 22 Oct 2014, 15:04
by Freedom2013
lefty wrote:Oh great. I was looking forward to seeing Ortiz in the mix aswell as he seemed to have the size and boxing ability to be a tough for any of the higher echelon heavyweights. That's gone out of the window now anyway lol
I was hoping he'd be in an interesting matchup with Wladimir next year.
Re: Luis Ortiz has tested positive for PEDs
Posted: 22 Oct 2014, 15:51
by Perseus
I assume Kayode will be fighting somebody else for this interim belt.
Any ideas on who the next opponent might be?
How is an interim belt up for grabs when there is an active WBA champion?
I'm not accusing anybody of anything shady yet but the next time Lateef Kayode fails to win a fight if that opponent also tests positive for something, that's going to look very suspicious.
Once and it happens to be the first time he didn't win?
Boxers test positive sometimes, it happens, nothing of interest to see here.
A second time and it happens to be the next time he did not win?
That's still just a coincidence, move along.
Three and only when he doesn't win?
hmmmm......................a trend will have been established, maybe a closer look would be warranted.
Re: Luis Ortiz has tested positive for PEDs
Posted: 22 Oct 2014, 18:08
by BAD INTENTIONS
diddy wrote:There isn't one cuban not on PEDs. Not one.
Stop trying to make it seem like it's just them.
I could say the same thing about American, Mexican or British fighters.
Re: Luis Ortiz has tested positive for PEDs
Posted: 22 Oct 2014, 18:21
by lefty
I think there's a large percentage period of fighters on some kind of performance enhancement.
Re: Luis Ortiz has tested positive for PEDs
Posted: 22 Oct 2014, 18:30
by diddy
BAD INTENTIONS wrote:diddy wrote:There isn't one cuban not on PEDs. Not one.
Stop trying to make it seem like it's just them.
I could say the same thing about American, Mexican or British fighters.
Never said it was just them.
Re: Luis Ortiz has tested positive for PEDs
Posted: 22 Oct 2014, 23:58
by Lackeos
Perseus wrote:I assume Kayode will be fighting somebody else for this interim belt.
Any ideas on who the next opponent might be?
Someone on steroids, kind of like the last two fighters he fought for a belt.
Re: Luis Ortiz has tested positive for PEDs
Posted: 23 Oct 2014, 05:36
by PsychoGamerTwo
Ortiz will lose his $80.000 purse, get a 9-12 months suspension & somebody else will fight Chagaev.
Re: Luis Ortiz has tested positive for PEDs
Posted: 23 Oct 2014, 13:10
by knurak
diddy wrote:There isn't one cuban not on PEDs. Not one.
How do you think Rigondeaux passes the VADA testing? They tested him for the Donaire fight at Donaire's request, and then his team actually demanded it for the Agbeko fight. I consider VADA the most stringent testing organization so I tend to believe that a request for VADA testing indicates that the fighter is clean, at least for that bout.
Re: Luis Ortiz has tested positive for PEDs
Posted: 23 Oct 2014, 13:12
by Datsue
VADA does seem to catch people, & those in the trade who've been less than forthcoming RE:releasing positive drug test results seem to massively dislike them, which is always a good sign, innit?
Re: Luis Ortiz has tested positive for PEDs
Posted: 24 Oct 2014, 12:43
by diddy
I did not know Rigo was VADA tested. Mea culpa. And yes VADA is good and expensive. Too good. Which is why no one wants them used and no one wants to pay for them.
Re: Luis Ortiz has tested positive for PEDs
Posted: 24 Oct 2014, 12:48
by lefty
Rigo strikes me as a guy that thinks fornicate it, what do I need performance enhancers for?! I'm better than these guys anyway.
Re: Luis Ortiz has tested positive for PEDs
Posted: 24 Oct 2014, 17:49
by Bobbyptsd
lefty wrote:Rigo strikes me as a guy that thinks eff it, what do I need performance enhancers for?! I'm better than these guys anyway.
There's plenty of guys like that, I'm sure. Diddy's line of thought was going in a ridiculous direction. Pretty much any time you start a sentence with: "There's not one...." You can be sure you're going off track.