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fergusg wrote:There is no chance of Kovalev fighting Stevenson as they're contracted to different TV networks (i.e. HBO vs. Showtime)... and Main Events have already dropped their lawsuit as they couldn't prove damages.

lefty wrote:

fergusg wrote:There is no chance of Kovalev fighting Stevenson as they're contracted to different TV networks (i.e. HBO vs. Showtime)... and Main Events have already dropped their lawsuit as they couldn't prove damages.

They could do a dual event though. That's occured in the past.

diddy wrote:Adonis is STUCK.

Fight Bernard and dont KO him. People say....Kovalev is better.

Fight Bernard and lose to a guy who just got killed by Kovalev....he's screwed.

Dont fight Kovalev....and he's a pu$$y.

Fight Kovalev...and get brutally knocked out.

No matter what he does, it's lose-lose. Because he cant possibly beat Hopkins better than Kovalev. Kovalev is a much better boxer than Adonis is.

ikorolev wrote:I think it is about 20%. It is better to take beating from the unified champion than from some unknown like Beterbiev or Mekhontsev.

Ian1973 wrote:

diddy wrote:Adonis is STUCK.

Fight Bernard and dont KO him. People say....Kovalev is better.

Fight Bernard and lose to a guy who just got killed by Kovalev....he's screwed.

Dont fight Kovalev....and he's a pu$$y.

Fight Kovalev...and get brutally knocked out.

No matter what he does, it's lose-lose. Because he cant possibly beat Hopkins better than Kovalev. Kovalev is a much better boxer than Adonis is.

He could knock Hopkins out in R1 then suddenly he becomes "unbeatable".

I can't see it though, Adonis has that viscous left hand but I see Hopkins outsmarting him, unless he (Hopkins) is totally shot now.

lefty wrote:The problem Kovalev is going to have now is that outside of Stevenson, who else is there that anyone really wants to see him fight? Beterbiev is probably the only other really interesting one and he probably wont be ready for another few fights atleast.

fergusg wrote:

diddy wrote:

lefty wrote:The problem Kovalev is going to have now is that outside of Stevenson, who else is there that anyone really wants to see him fight? Beterbiev is probably the only other really interesting one and he probably wont be ready for another few fights atleast.

Correct, other than those 2 (and Ward going up) there is literally nothing for him. He would kill Dawson and Pascal and Fonfara. And moving to cruiser is boring. Nobody gives a crap about that division.

ESPN claim that Jean Pascal, by resigning with his promoter, has effectively become a Showtime fighter.

Andrzej Fonfara has recently signed-up with Al Haymon.

As all true boxing fans should already know by now... is that neither Showtime nor Al Haymon are willing to work with HBO.

I don't believe that Showtime would work with Main Events now, as a result of Kathy Duva's lawsuit. Also, Showtime's parent company, CBS has ended ties with Main Events in preference of Al Haymon.

What I'm basically trying to say is this... Fonfara and Pascal will not be fighting Kovalev anytime soon.

diddy wrote:

Ian1973 wrote:

diddy wrote:Adonis is STUCK.

Fight Bernard and dont KO him. People say....Kovalev is better.

Fight Bernard and lose to a guy who just got killed by Kovalev....he's screwed.

Dont fight Kovalev....and he's a pu$$y.

Fight Kovalev...and get brutally knocked out.

No matter what he does, it's lose-lose. Because he cant possibly beat Hopkins better than Kovalev. Kovalev is a much better boxer than Adonis is.

He could knock Hopkins out in R1 then suddenly he becomes "unbeatable".

I can't see it though, Adonis has that viscous left hand but I see Hopkins outsmarting him, unless he (Hopkins) is totally shot now.

Hopkins would avoid that one handed fighter all night long. You dont beat Hopkins with 1 punch, even at this age. You need punch diversity. Adonis is as one-dimensional as they come and Hopkins would take his simple ass to school. Kovalev was right about that.

fergusg wrote:Is this a boxing forum frequented by people that are self-confessed hardcore fans of the sport?

If so... why are so many people thinking that a Kovalev-Stevenson bout is likely?

For sure, the fight may eventually become a possibility within the next five years, but whilst both men are "standing at opposite sides of the street" (i.e. HBO vs Showtime)... it simply isn't going to happen!

Anybody that possesses even a modicum of knowledge about the sport of boxing would realise this!

fergusg wrote:

diddy wrote:

fergusg wrote:Is this a boxing forum frequented by people that are self-confessed hardcore fans of the sport?

If so... why are so many people thinking that a Kovalev-Stevenson bout is likely?

For sure, the fight may eventually become a possibility within the next five years, but whilst both men are "standing at opposite sides of the street" (i.e. HBO vs Showtime)... it simply isn't going to happen!

Anybody that possesses even a modicum of knowledge about the sport of boxing would realise this!

Fans want to see the best fight the best. And the networks too often take that from us. Money can fix everything tho. Even contracts.

Please expand on your point. Based on my understanding of the facts, Stevenson and Kovalev aren't big names, so the money simply isn't there to overcome such monumentally challenging hurdles.

fergusg wrote:

diddy wrote:It's funny. You are blaming the networks. BLAME ADONIS for fleeing for Showtime when he and Kovalev were fighting under the same banner. It's his fault, not Showtime's. He is chicken sh*t.

HBO told Yahoo that they chose not to renegotiate a deal with the Al Haymon managed Adonis Stevenson, so he signed to Showtime instead as his preference was to opt for a fight against the most lucrative bout against Bernard Hopkins rather than Kovalev.

It was also Hopkins plan to fight Stevenson and he even stated that he himself had no intention to fight Kovalev.

One of the main reasons why the Kovalev-Hopkins bout was made, was due to Kathy Duva's lawsuit against the likes of Al Haymon, Showtime, Adonis Stevenson, Golden Boy and (by proxy) Bernard Hopkins (as he's a shareholder in GBP)... when Hopkins agreed to fight Sergey (as he was the only free party that could have made such a move), it removed Main Events claims for damages.

Kathy Duva subsequently agreed to drop the lawsuit against all those parties, but retained the right to reinstate it should Hopkins pull out.

Those are the facts... now do you still feel that Stevenson chose not to fight Kovalev due to cowardice or politics?