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Updating the BOXREC Forum heavyweight rankings CLOSED

Posted: 09 Nov 2014, 03:57
by jezzamundo
BWH Rankings as of 8 November 2014:

Champion: Wladimir Klitschko
1. Alexander Povetkin
2. Kubrat Pulev
3. Tyson Fury
4. Bermane Stiverne
5. Dereck Chisora
6. Bryant Jennings
7. Vyacheslav Glazkov
8. Tomasz Adamek
9. Carlos Takam
10. Deontay Wilder
11. Tony Thompson
12. Steve Cunningham
13. Chris Arreola
14. Odlanier Solis
15. Ruslan Chagaev

Topic A - How are the rankings affected by Artur Szpilka's UD10 win over Tomasz Adamek?

My vote: Szpilka in at #11, Adamek OUT.

Note: This topic is for voting on the rankings of Szpilka and Adamek. Posting your own Top 15 will not count as a vote. Please cast your vote in the manner than I have done above.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum heavyweight rankings

Posted: 09 Nov 2014, 03:59
by crusader
Adamek out
Szpilka remains out

I think Adamek was largely done, perhaps not deserving of his current ranking, and given the rest of Szpilka's resume I don't think he's quite a top 16 HW.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum heavyweight rankings

Posted: 09 Nov 2014, 04:24
by Freedom2013
Adamek out, Szpilka remains out

Christian Hammer in at #15

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum heavyweight rankings

Posted: 09 Nov 2014, 05:00
by jezzamundo
Freedom2013 wrote:Adamek out, Szpilka remains out

Christian Hammer in at #15
Sorry, no nominations for new entries until this topic is settled.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum heavyweight rankings

Posted: 09 Nov 2014, 05:02
by Ian1973
Wilder above Chisora.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum heavyweight rankings

Posted: 09 Nov 2014, 05:20
by jezzamundo
Ian1973 wrote:Wilder above Chisora.
Sorry, that's not how it works, you can only vote for the rankings of Szpilka and Adamek in this thread. Feel free to vote for either Wilder or Chisora when they next fight - they are ranked fighters so I will be sure to make a new topic.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum heavyweight rankings

Posted: 09 Nov 2014, 05:29
by Freedom2013
jezzamundo wrote:Sorry, no nominations for new entries until this topic is settled.
Okay, so Adamek out and Szpilka stays out.

And we can decide on #15 later.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum heavyweight rankings

Posted: 09 Nov 2014, 08:20
by Tarkus
Szpilka 11
Adamek 13
Chagaev OUT

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum heavyweight rankings

Posted: 09 Nov 2014, 08:29
by cold187
szpilka to 8
adamek down to 15

wilder or solis out
keep chagaev in.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum heavyweight rankings

Posted: 09 Nov 2014, 08:30
by tiny_acres
Adamek out
Szpilka out

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum heavyweight rankings

Posted: 09 Nov 2014, 08:32
by crusader
At this point I don't think Adamek should be in the top 15. He was dominated by the fairly mediocre Glazkov, who had far more problems with and arguably deserved to lose to journeyman Derric Rossy, then apparently clearly lost to the possibly even more mediocre Szpilka. To then bump Szpilka, someone whose best results include his tough wins over Mike Mollo and a win over ancient Jameel McCline in which the latter broke his jaw, into the top ten range as some are doing is a bit much in my view, especially considering how out of his depth he was against Jennings compared to another unranked fighter in Perez.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum heavyweight rankings

Posted: 09 Nov 2014, 08:48
by cold187
crusader wrote:At this point I don't think Adamek should be in the top 15. He was dominated by the fairly mediocre Glazkov, who had far more problems with and arguably deserved to lose to journeyman Derric Rossy, then apparently clearly lost to the possibly even more mediocre Szpilka. To then bump Szpilka, someone whose best results include his tough wins over Mike Mollo and a win over ancient Jameel McCline in which the latter broke his jaw, into the top ten range as some are doing is a bit much in my view, especially considering how out of his depth he was against Jennings compared to another unranked fighter in Perez.
yeah but you can argue that with alot of fighters just cos they lose doesnt mean they should go out top 15

look at solis, what has he done, wilder, chagaev, arreola

if adamak is out then arreeola should follow

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum heavyweight rankings

Posted: 09 Nov 2014, 08:50
by crusader
Did any of those fighters lose consecutive fights to someone Glazkov then someone like Szpilka when they were ranked? Someone who was unranked prior to the bout and was recently outclassed and stopped by Bryant Jennings? Someone whose best prior win was arguably a lackluster decision over Brian Minto?

Adamek hasn't had a good win in several years either.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum heavyweight rankings

Posted: 09 Nov 2014, 10:24
by Coachmanager
Both out.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum heavyweight rankings

Posted: 09 Nov 2014, 12:44
by HyacinthusTurnipseed
Adamek out.
Szpilka remains unranked.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum heavyweight rankings

Posted: 09 Nov 2014, 13:45
by Lackeos
Adamek Out
Szpilka In At #13 (i.e. between Arreola and Solis, with Adamek out of the rankings)

I think Solis and Chagaev are garbage. I would probably rank almost anyone above them, including Szpilka.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum heavyweight rankings

Posted: 09 Nov 2014, 14:10
by Horse
Szpilka - Enters at No. 12
Adamek - Down to No. 14

Adamek still deserves to be ranked more than Solis. Solis has got to go.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum heavyweight rankings

Posted: 09 Nov 2014, 15:30
by HomicideHenry
jezzamundo wrote:BWH Rankings as of 8 November 2014:

Champion: Wladimir Klitschko
1. Alexander Povetkin
2. Kubrat Pulev
3. Tyson Fury
4. Bermane Stiverne
5. Dereck Chisora
6. Bryant Jennings
7. Vyacheslav Glazkov
8. Tomasz Adamek
9. Carlos Takam
10. Deontay Wilder
11. Tony Thompson
12. Steve Cunningham
13. Chris Arreola
14. Odlanier Solis
15. Ruslan Chagaev

Topic A - How are the rankings affected by Artur Szpilka's UD10 win over Tomasz Adamek?

My vote: Szpilka in at #11, Adamek OUT.

Note: This topic is for voting on the rankings of Szpilka and Adamek. Posting your own Top 15 will not count as a vote. Please cast your vote in the manner than I have done above.
Szpilka in at #14, Solis out... Adamek out...

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum heavyweight rankings

Posted: 09 Nov 2014, 15:52
by JCS
Szpilka IN at #14, Adamek OUT.

Chagaev drops to #15

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum heavyweight rankings

Posted: 09 Nov 2014, 15:54
by Horse
JCS wrote:Szpilka IN at #15, Adamek OUT.
So Solis moves up to No. 13? :witzend:

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum heavyweight rankings

Posted: 09 Nov 2014, 15:55
by Horse
crusader wrote:Adamek hasn't had a good win in several years either.
Solis has never had a good win.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum heavyweight rankings

Posted: 09 Nov 2014, 15:58
by JCS
Horse wrote:
JCS wrote:Szpilka IN at #15, Adamek OUT.
So Solis moves up to No. 13? :witzend:
I since corrected, but yes.

Solis fighting nearly even with Thompson in his most recent bout, proves he is at least semi-legitimate. I also thought Cunningham beat Adamek. Not sure Arreola belongs, but I don't think Szpilka or Adamek belongs above Solis.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum heavyweight rankings

Posted: 09 Nov 2014, 16:00
by klitoris
Chisora, Adamek and Arreola are getting way too much love.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum heavyweight rankings

Posted: 09 Nov 2014, 16:02
by tomek0412
Szpilka 13
Adamek 14

Chagaev :lol:

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum heavyweight rankings

Posted: 09 Nov 2014, 16:04
by Horse
JCS wrote:I since corrected, but yes.

Solis fighting nearly even with Thompson in his most recent bout, proves he is at least semi-legitimate. I also thought Cunningham beat Adamek. Not sure Arreola belongs, but I don't think Szpilka or Adamek belongs above Solis.
Thompson beat Solis widely. I had it 118-110 Thompson.

Solis just plods around the ring looking cocky. Why do people give this guy so much credit? He's awful.

What's his best win? Monte Barrett? Solis has never beaten anyone as good as Adamek.