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Its kind of funny that both Pacquiao and Arum have been publicly saying they want the fight with Floyd, but turned down $40 million plus 35% of the PPV revenue for the fight recently?

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Exactly what I've been saying that TR/Bob Arum were keeping Manny away from Floyd.

Dennis wrote:Exactly what I've been saying that TR/Bob Arum were keeping Manny away from Floyd.

If you flip the script, the result is the same dude. If Arum made the offer to Floyd, you think Floyd would accept 40 mil plus 35%?

40 million and 35% should be over 60 million.That is by far more than any Arum fighter has ever made.
And I do not see any other fight that can come close for Arum and his fighters.
To me it's a no brainer.

The fight wasn't turned down by Floyd or anyone on his side. It was turned down by Pacquiao's promoter.

Whats funny is Pac isn't even the champion when Mayweather is.

Badhusker wrote:Its kind of funny that both Pacquiao and Arum have been publicly saying they want the fight with Floyd, but turned down $40 million plus 35% of the PPV revenue for the fight recently?

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Have they turned down a 50/50 split yet?

Lackeos wrote:

Badhusker wrote:Its kind of funny that both Pacquiao and Arum have been publicly saying they want the fight with Floyd, but turned down $40 million plus 35% of the PPV revenue for the fight recently?

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2014/11/sho ... ore-184378

Have they turned down a 50/50 split yet?

Pacquia is not the draw.This is what is the problem.If Pac was the draw that Floyd is.He would have the ppv numbers and
the 40 million paydays.
This offer is very fair.

demon1 wrote:

Dennis wrote:Exactly what I've been saying that TR/Bob Arum were keeping Manny away from Floyd.

If you flip the script, the result is the same dude. If Arum made the offer to Floyd, you think Floyd would accept 40 mil plus 35%?

There is no script to flip, Manny isn't the Draw, you guys need to quit thinking that Manny is in the driver's seat or that he deserves 50-50, this isn't 2010.

Look at Pacquiao's PPV numbers, regardless of how much you hate Floyd at the end of the day this is still a business and Floyd holds the cards.

If Manny really wanted the fight as badly as he claims in the public then this is a very fair offer worth twice or even nearly 3 times what he receives in his current PPV fights.

Take your hate for Floyd out of the equation and see this from a business perspective.

Manny hasn't been bringing in big PPV numbers so the offer is more than fair.

Dennis wrote:Manny hasn't been bringing in big PPV numbers so the offer is more than fair.

Manny has an unavenged KO loss on his record and has been fighting beneath his level recently so there is no way this is 50/50 Floyd is making tons money fighting anyone Manny has never made this much ever so it's obvious who is ducking. I was always a fan of Pacman and believed that he would win when the fight was at it's most meaningful, I felt with the drug testing stuff that Floyd was ducking him but I was wrong it's Top Rank that stop this fight from happening. Although it's not the fight it was I still think the offer to Pacman is very fair compared to his precious earnings. What did he earn getting KOd by JM Marquez?

Of course Arum is turning that down, he wants an even bigger payday.

first it depends on weather there was really an offer these stories have been banded about for years of offers that never came to anything and second was there any clauses in it like say many manny has to sign with showtime .if it's a straight up offer with no tie ins then it seems a fair offer to me

stevedoc wrote:first it depends on weather there was really an offer these stories have been banded about for years of offers that never came to anything and second was there any clauses in it like say many manny has to sign with showtime .if it's a straight up offer with no tie ins then it seems a fair offer to me

Nothing is straight up in boxing, each side releases what they want the paying public to hear, there will be another side of this offer surface I'm sure

stevedoc wrote:first it depends on weather there was really an offer these stories have been banded about for years of offers that never came to anything and second was there any clauses in it like say many manny has to sign with showtime .if it's a straight up offer with no tie ins then it seems a fair offer to me

I think since Arum is the one bringing up the negotiations he would bring up any STIPULATIONS
that were thrown in.At least to make it look like Floyd was the one avoiding again.
As it sits and with Arum not throwing out any allegations of stipulations.It appears as if
Arum is not wanting this fight.
This is a ton of money and if team Pacquia can pull the upset it makes for even bigger money in
the rematch.If not it gives Manny a nice payday to end a glorious career.

tiny_acres wrote:I think since Arum is the one bringing up the negotiations he would bring up any STIPULATIONS
that were thrown in.At least to make it look like Floyd was the one avoiding again.

As it sits and with Arum not throwing out any allegations of stipulations.It appears as if Arum is not wanting this fight. This is a ton of money and if team Pacquia can pull the upset it makes for even bigger money in the rematch.If not it gives Manny a nice payday to end a glorious career.

This is the same thing Alex Ariza has been saying for a while now but yet no one wanted to accept his opinion simply because it goes against what the public's perception is because they love Manny more and hate Floyd.

Why anyone would believe Arum wanted this fight back then when everything was 50-50 and the only issue was testing but then somehow doesn't believe he still doesn't want it now that there is 60 million dollars plus 35% PPV revenue is beyond me.

If Manny turned this down then there is no denying who is DUCKING!! Y'all can say it's Arum all you want but Manny clearly has a say in this as he is the one who has been running his mouth about how much he wants this fight.

I know it's hard to accept for some but it is way past the time to move on gentlemen.

Manny is done and has been for a while. Perhaps thats why the offer was made?

When Manny signed with Arum yet again that was all I needed to see to know Manny and Bob do not want this fight.

PAC would be richer than even his wildest dreams if he got out from under that stain on the world Arum. He makes less than half what Floy makes probably much less after Bob gets his hands in.

Mayweather doesn't even have a promoter. Arum should offer Mayweather a flat 40%. That's very generous, all he has to do is fight, while Top Rank and Arum promote the fight and pay the bills. It's also way more than Floyd will ever make from a single fight.

People can talk all the crap they want about how this fight is done and should have happened back in 2010 but the fact remains that as much as we would've loved to see it happen then we still talk about it just as much today and would happily pay what I'm sure would be easily a 75 or 80 dollar PPV cost to see this fight today if it were to happen.

Let's just throw this figure out here for sh*ts and giggles and assume that the fight grosses 200 mil on PPV at 35% that would easily mean a 70 million dollar check for Manny plus the 40 million they are offering him would be a boatload of cash.

Now you tell me, who's really ducking this fight??

Ricky_ wrote:Mayweather doesn't even have a promoter. Arum should offer Mayweather a flat 40%. That's very generous, all he has to do is fight, while Top Rank and Arum promote the fight and pay the bills. It's also way more than Floyd will ever make from a single fight.

You have to be one of the dumbest dudes I've read stuff from on this forum, you act just like Arum (are you his Shill)? Arum is not in any position to throw offers, Floyd is the "A" side of this equation, he had already previously signed a contract to offer Manny 50-50 deal that was turned down and now Pacquiao's PPV numbers are so dismal they're not even being published at all, and yet YOU still think this is 2010.

I just posted that Manny could make up to 110 million with the deal they offered him, that is far more than the last 3 or 4 of Manny's fights combined, maybe even more and still you're making excuses.

SMDH

Oh and FYI, Floyd doesn't need a Promoter because he already has his Promoter's License from the state of Nevada and New York.

KBB wrote:
Arum is not in any position to throw offers,

The biggest, best & wealthiest promoter in the boxing game is not a position to make offers?! Oooooooooook den.

KBB wrote:Floyd is the "A" side of this equation,

there is no A side. "Floyd vs Manny" is an entity on it's own. It's the biggest fight of all time. It's been hyped for over 5 years. A side... you act like Pacquiao is Maidana or Guerrero, you fanboy.

KBB wrote:I just posted that Manny could make up to 110 million with the deal they offered him

Who cares what ever math you can come up with, some fanboy troll from the hood?? Floyd could take 25% vs Manny and he'd be making double what he usually makes.

KBB wrote:Oh and FYI, Floyd doesn't need a Promoter because he already has his Promoter's License from the state of Nevada and New York.

Floyd doesn't even have the know-how or the finance to promote Mayweather vs Maidana, or he would have done. Cards headlined by J'Leon Love are about his level i think. Yes you think he's gonna promote the biggest fight of all time? GTFO here

It's about time Arum jumps at any offer Mayweather throws the aging Pacquiao's way.
If Manny loses another fight to some trumped-up journeyman, he can kiss the big Mayweather payday away forever.
And it's obvious that Mayweather has become boxing's #1 draw. How's it going to look when Pacquiao attracts only flies for his PPV match next week against the lightly regarded Algieri?
Pacquiao should be thrilled at this stage with $40 million and any PPV upside. It may not be there much longer.

SenorPipino wrote:It's about time Arum jumps at any offer Mayweather throws the aging Pacquiao's way.
If Manny loses another fight to some trumped-up journeyman, he can kiss the big Mayweather payday away forever.
And it's obvious that Mayweather has become boxing's #1 draw. How's it going to look when Pacquiao attracts only flies for his PPV match next week against the lightly regarded Algieri?
Pacquiao should be thrilled at this stage with $40 million and any PPV upside. It may not be there much longer.

I agree.Pacquia is 1 loss away from no Mayweather fight.Take the money.

Manny either thinks the public is stupid, or is a lying sack. He wanted to fight for free and donate all proceeds to charity, but turns down $40 million+? If he truly wanted to fight, they would have already fought.