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This time Frazier is using the 76 style combined with the style he used against Chuvalo Frazier is fighting both the 1973 and 1976 Foreman. Since most of you say Frazier never beats Foreman. I've already posted my thoughts on Frazier vs peak Foreman but against 1976 Foreman using the above style, I don't really see any argument. Joe was SHOT by 1976. Just worn out from all the ring wars. He came into the fight way too heavy and out of shape on top of this. Now take the FOTC Frazier and have him fight the 1976 style! Unless Foreman gets Joe early, Joe is not going to tire like he did in 1976. The '71 peak Frazier was faster, lighter, had better footwork and head movement, and threw more punches. You take that Frazier, not shopworn, not diminished from the first Ali fight, and give him the style he used against Foreman in the rematch and against Chuvalo. And Foreman couldn't even get the ABSOLUTELY SHOT Frazier until round 5. And Foreman was already tiring. Unlike 76 Frazier, pre-FOTC Frazier wouldn't have tired. So if a washed up Frazier can survive long enough to make Foreman tire, you can bet you ass FOTC Frazier would to. Unlike the shell of Frazier, Frazier will not tire in round 5. Instead Frazier will start smoking. This is the ABSOLUTE worst time to be tired. Dare I say Foreman will be more tired than he was in that fight because this Frazier hits harder and throws ALOT more punches than his broken counterpart.
The Foreman who fought Frazier in '76 was the most in shape Foreman I've seen since the Ali fight and ever again for that matter. On the other hand, Joe was nowhere near his best shape and really shouldn't have taken the fight. Just too many wars at that point. Just on shape alone, a '71 Frazier using the '76 style should have done better because he would have had the stamina to keep moving. '76 Joe kept stopping along the ropes and then it was a matter of time.

How many more of these threads do we need?

That's what I would love to know.

It's not enough to just agree to disagree is it?

HomicideHenry wrote:How many more of these threads do we need?

That's what I would love to know.

It's not enough to just agree to disagree is it?

This is a much different thread than my previous frazier-foreman thread.

must be the "twist" that makes it different.

BoxBuzz wrote:must be the "twist" that makes it different.

I couldn't have guessed.

abdelfadeeli wrote:This time Frazier is using the 76 style combined with the style he used against Chuvalo Frazier is fighting both the 1973 and 1976 Foreman. Since most of you say Frazier never beats Foreman. I've already posted my thoughts on Frazier vs peak Foreman but against 1976 Foreman using the above style, I don't really see any argument. Joe was SHOT by 1976. Just worn out from all the ring wars. He came into the fight way too heavy and out of shape on top of this. Now take the FOTC Frazier and have him fight the 1976 style! Unless Foreman gets Joe early, Joe is not going to tire like he did in 1976. The '71 peak Frazier was faster, lighter, had better footwork and head movement, and threw more punches. You take that Frazier, not shopworn, not diminished from the first Ali fight, and give him the style he used against Foreman in the rematch and against Chuvalo. And Foreman couldn't even get the ABSOLUTELY SHOT Frazier until round 5. And Foreman was already tiring. Unlike 76 Frazier, pre-FOTC Frazier wouldn't have tired. So if a washed up Frazier can survive long enough to make Foreman tire, you can bet you ass FOTC Frazier would to. Unlike the shell of Frazier, Frazier will not tire in round 5. Instead Frazier will start smoking. This is the ABSOLUTE worst time to be tired. Dare I say Foreman will be more tired than he was in that fight because this Frazier hits harder and throws ALOT more punches than his broken counterpart.
The Foreman who fought Frazier in '76 was the most in shape Foreman I've seen since the Ali fight and ever again for that matter. On the other hand, Joe was nowhere near his best shape and really shouldn't have taken the fight. Just too many wars at that point. Just on shape alone, a '71 Frazier using the '76 style should have done better because he would have had the stamina to keep moving. '76 Joe kept stopping along the ropes and then it was a matter of time.

So whattya saying felix? Frazier is fighting both foreman 72 and 76 at the same time?

Fraziers 76 style was baloney he was looked like a fat version of buster mathis.all that running and clowning did was delay the inevitable.Frazier in 73 wasn't shot he was the same Frazier v ali.it'd be an insult to Joe toughest winning the fotc had made him lose some of his hunger.

I like u abdulfadeeli even an old hack like me appreciates these threads