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Pacman is looking ripped!

Posted: 18 Nov 2014, 15:57
by Rodian
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best he's ever looked!!! :o


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Re: Pacman is looking ripped!

Posted: 18 Nov 2014, 16:09
by reggaereggae
He always looks like that,no?

Re: Pacman is looking ripped!

Posted: 18 Nov 2014, 16:28
by jamesmcdonnell
He's pretty much always ripped.

Has nobody else noticed, what enormous frigging head he has? It's like a frigging bull mastiff's head.

Re: Pacman is looking ripped!

Posted: 18 Nov 2014, 16:30
by crusader
jamesmcdonnell wrote:He's pretty much always ripped.

Has nobody else noticed, what enormous frigging head he has? It's like a frigging bull mastiff's head.
I see the large head comments all the time, typically with accusations of PED use attached.

Re: Pacman is looking ripped!

Posted: 18 Nov 2014, 16:43
by jamesmcdonnell
crusader wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:He's pretty much always ripped.

Has nobody else noticed, what enormous frigging head he has? It's like a frigging bull mastiff's head.
I see the large head comments all the time, typically with accusations of PED use attached.
Are they saying he has PED-Head? Is there some new smart drug that increases the size of a fighters' head I don't know about?

Re: Pacman is looking ripped!

Posted: 18 Nov 2014, 16:44
by crusader
That's pretty much what it is. His head size is taken to be an indicator of PED usage.

Re: Pacman is looking ripped!

Posted: 18 Nov 2014, 16:51
by lefty
I think the PED accusations in relation to the size of his head are in relation to possible HGH usage which can increase bone density and so on. Whether it can make someones overall head bigger than usual though i dunno lol

Re: Pacman is looking ripped!

Posted: 18 Nov 2014, 16:54
by reggaereggae
I believe that the big head thing is linked to HGH usage. Heavy users grow sense bones in the cranial area, as well as bone growth in the digital area (correct me if untrue.)

I remember many people remarked on how Holyfields head seemed to change shape as he moved up to heavy and spent time there.

And there surely can't be much doubt Holy was a huge juicer. Golota also had a huge prominent forehead. As did Valuev, though Valuev suffered from a natural growth abnormality (it that makes sense!)

Re: Pacman is looking ripped!

Posted: 18 Nov 2014, 17:12
by Rodian
if he's on HGH, then so is Marquez.

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His face is fuller probably due to aging and weight gain and his hair is longer cut instead of the closely cropped look he had as a featherweight (1st pic)

The same goes for Marquez. (but he also that acne problem on his body LOL)

Re: Pacman is looking ripped!

Posted: 18 Nov 2014, 17:20
by lefty
Rodian wrote:if he's on HGH, then so is Marquez.

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His face is fuller probably due to aging and weight gain and his hair is longer cut instead of the closely cropped look he had as a featherweight (1st pic)

The same goes for Marquez. (but he also that acne problem on his body LOL)
i have no doubts that marquez is juicing now

Re: Pacman is looking ripped!

Posted: 18 Nov 2014, 17:25
by jamesmcdonnell
reggaereggae wrote:I believe that the big head thing is linked to HGH usage. Heavy users grow sense bones in the cranial area, as well as bone growth in the digital area (correct me if untrue.)

I remember many people remarked on how Holyfields head seemed to change shape as he moved up to heavy and spent time there.

And there surely can't be much doubt Holy was a huge juicer. Golota also had a huge prominent forehead. As did Valuev, though Valuev suffered from a natural growth abnormality (it that makes sense!)
Yes Valuev had acromegaly, caused by an overactive pituitary gland.


I wasn't suggesting Manny was on peds - but now that I look at those photographs, it is striking how much bigger his head and jaw look, the same goes for Marquez, I'm sorry, but both their heads looks far more massive now than their first fight, in relation to their body. This is odd, considering that both of them are fighting at higher weights now than when they were younger, so if anything, you would expect that their heads would look smaller in relation to their now larger bodies.

I'd never even thought about this before.

It really wouldn't surprise me if lots of boxers were on HGH - do they even test for it in urine samples?

Re: Pacman is looking ripped!

Posted: 18 Nov 2014, 17:27
by jamesmcdonnell
reggaereggae wrote:I believe that the big head thing is linked to HGH usage. Heavy users grow sense bones in the cranial area, as well as bone growth in the digital area (correct me if untrue.)

I remember many people remarked on how Holyfields head seemed to change shape as he moved up to heavy and spent time there.

And there surely can't be much doubt Holy was a huge juicer. Golota also had a huge prominent forehead. As did Valuev, though Valuev suffered from a natural growth abnormality (it that makes sense!)
Yes, golota had a huge sloping forehead, with what they call 'bossing' around the brows, which is a classic sign of acromegaly, he also had horrific acne all over his back - plus the bouts of lunacy, all lead me to suspect he was a huge steroid freak. He always looked completely mental.

Re: Pacman is looking ripped!

Posted: 18 Nov 2014, 18:39
by reggaereggae
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
reggaereggae wrote:I believe that the big head thing is linked to HGH usage. Heavy users grow sense bones in the cranial area, as well as bone growth in the digital area (correct me if untrue.)

I remember many people remarked on how Holyfields head seemed to change shape as he moved up to heavy and spent time there.

And there surely can't be much doubt Holy was a huge juicer. Golota also had a huge prominent forehead. As did Valuev, though Valuev suffered from a natural growth abnormality (it that makes sense!)
Yes, golota had a huge sloping forehead, with what they call 'bossing' around the brows, which is a classic sign of acromegaly, he also had horrific acne all over his back - plus the bouts of lunacy, all lead me to suspect he was a huge steroid freak. He always looked completely mental.
Right - I would bet everything, I mean everything I own at odds of 10-1 against that Golota was juicing. Same with Holyfield. PED testing in boxing is laughable... Commissions don't want to fail their moneymakers! And when they do, bugger all happens.... Jones, Botha etc

Re: Pacman is looking ripped!

Posted: 18 Nov 2014, 18:48
by Lackeos
Head size could potentially correlate with punches absorbed. The mechanostat theorem could support this. I think it's more plausible than the idea that growth hormone causes enlargement of heads. Growth hormone has no uses or side effects that have anything to do with bone growth. The only somewhat related side effect is that it can cause edema. Also, for the record, growth hormone has different effects in adolescents than it does in adults. So if you grew several feet in your adolescence due to growth hormone, don't assume that you can inject growth hormone as an adult and grow several additional feet, or any other preposterous effects that you might falsely attribute to growth hormone use in adulthood.
reggaereggae wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
reggaereggae wrote:I believe that the big head thing is linked to HGH usage. Heavy users grow sense bones in the cranial area, as well as bone growth in the digital area (correct me if untrue.)

I remember many people remarked on how Holyfields head seemed to change shape as he moved up to heavy and spent time there.

And there surely can't be much doubt Holy was a huge juicer. Golota also had a huge prominent forehead. As did Valuev, though Valuev suffered from a natural growth abnormality (it that makes sense!)
Yes, golota had a huge sloping forehead, with what they call 'bossing' around the brows, which is a classic sign of acromegaly, he also had horrific acne all over his back - plus the bouts of lunacy, all lead me to suspect he was a huge steroid freak. He always looked completely mental.
Right - I would bet everything, I mean everything I own at odds of 10-1 against that Golota was juicing. Same with Holyfield. PED testing in boxing is laughable... Commissions don't want to fail their moneymakers! And when they do, bugger all happens.... Jones, Botha etc
You sound like you're just guessing that Holyfield used steroids, but with high confidence. From this, I surmise that you haven't heard of Evan Fields.

Re: Pacman is looking ripped!

Posted: 21 Nov 2014, 12:11
by KBB

Re: Pacman is looking ripped!

Posted: 21 Nov 2014, 12:21
by Ricky_
KBB wrote:Great article but loooooonnnggg: http://www.outsideonline.com/fitness/Drug-Test.html

does Pacquiao have a restraining order against you Brut, you loser?

Re: Pacman is looking ripped!

Posted: 21 Nov 2014, 13:04
by tiny_acres
Ricky_ wrote:
KBB wrote:Great article but loooooonnnggg: http://www.outsideonline.com/fitness/Drug-Test.html

does Pacquiao have a restraining order against you Brut, you loser?
Does Arum get jealous when you have manny's nutsack on your chin?Or do Manny and Arum just take turns?

Re: Pacman is looking ripped!

Posted: 21 Nov 2014, 13:19
by jamesmcdonnell
KBB wrote:Great article but loooooonnnggg: http://www.outsideonline.com/fitness/Drug-Test.html
Interesting article. :salut:

Re: Pacman is looking ripped!

Posted: 21 Nov 2014, 14:16
by Ricky_
tiny_acres wrote:
Ricky_ wrote:
KBB wrote:Great article but loooooonnnggg: http://www.outsideonline.com/fitness/Drug-Test.html

does Pacquiao have a restraining order against you Brut, you loser?
Does Arum get jealous when you have manny's nutsack on your chin?Or do Manny and Arum just take turns?

It would seem you attempted to insult me, but instead portrayed yourself as being a perverted, homosexual fantasist.